Hacking Bricked O3DS

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

Hello, my standard 3ds was on 8.1.0-4 and tried to install 9.2.0-20 but i bricked the thing

First i downloaded 9.2.0-20 usa from 3dnus (all cia), then boot rxtools, launch rxmode sysnand, and install all cias with FBI from sysnand. Reboot..... and Black Screen

. Wont let me enter recovery mode too.

Any advice?

sorry my english.

Xenon Hacks · Jul 2, 2015

AngelOfDeathEC said:
Hello, my standard 3ds was on 8.1.0-4 and tried to install 9.2.0-20 but i bricked the thing
First i downloaded 9.2.0-20 usa from 3dnus (all cia), then boot rxtools, launch rxmode sysnand, and install all cias with FBI from sysnand. Reboot..... and Black Screen . Wont let me enter recovery mode too.

Any advice?

sorry my english.

Either flash your Nand back with a hard mod or use it as a door stop. Question why didnt you use Sysupdater which was made for that purpose instead of installing CIA's one by one?

Kane49 · Jul 2, 2015

Xenon Hacks said:
Either flash your Nand back with a hard mod or use it as a door stop. Question why didnt you use Sysupdater which was made for that purpose instead of installing CIA's one by one?

I tried finding out what Systems are hackable, what that hack allows and what tools are best suited to apply it.
Unfortunately theres no one stop to find out those things on here @_@ At least none that i could find

VerseHell · Jul 2, 2015

It would have been the same result, like gateway, rxtools block the native_firm update.

zoogie · Jul 2, 2015

You bricked because FBI cannot install native firm cia properly. FBI is only for regular individual cia installs.

VerseHell said:
It would have been the same result, like gateway, rxtools block the native_firm update.

That's bull.

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

thanks guys, so i'm gonna try the hardmod,i have a nand.bin when it was on 4.3 i think. Do you have instructions for the standard o3ds pinouts? all i see is for XL, and, do you gus know any confirmed and working tutorial for upgrading from sysnand?

Xenon Hacks · Jul 2, 2015

AngelOfDeathEC said:
thanks guys, so i'm gonna try the hardmod,i have a nand.bin when it was on 4.3 i think. Do you have instructions for the standard o3ds pinouts? all i see is for XL, and, do you gus know any confirmed and working tutorial for upgrading from sysnand?

Download the firmware you want from 3DNUS put all those CIA's into a folder called updates onto the root of your SD card then just run sysUpdater

VerseHell · Jul 2, 2015

And don't update while in rxmode, use the mset pasta : http://gbatemp.net/threads/release-pasta-cfw-without-cubic-ninja-mset-4-x-old3ds.389498/

Frozen_Fish · Jul 2, 2015

Same thing happened to me when attempting to update a 6.x O3DS to 9.2 in rxmode with sysupdater.
Black screen, had to hard mod and restore a backup.

I ended up using an early version of Pasta with only the sig check patches just to be safe.

NAND pinouts can be found here:
http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

Frozen_Fish said:
Same thing happened to me when attempting to update a 6.x O3DS to 9.2 in rxmode with sysupdater.
Black screen, had to hard mod and restore a backup.

I ended up using an early version of Pasta with only the sig check patches just to be safe.

NAND pinouts can be found here:
http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

Hey thanks, CLK pin has to be soldered on the back of the mbo and the others in the front? so i have to take the whole mbo out?

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

Hope it works!!

zoogie · Jul 2, 2015

VerseHell said:
It would have been the same result, like gateway, rxtools block the native_firm update.

AngelOfDeathEC said:
Hope it works!!

Mother of God. What is this. o.o

gamesquest1 · Jul 2, 2015

zoogie said:
Mother of God. What is this. o.o

a diy temporary nand mod most likely....unless he just has a 3DS hooked up to a SD reader with 4 wires hanging out of it one of which is labeled CLK for some other reason

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

seems to be working, the thing is both screens are black :S

Apache Thunder · Jul 2, 2015

Hmm, You're suppose to be getting about 5 or so MB/s on transfer. You should double check your connections if the NAND restore fails.

(try again with shorter wires if it fails)

Also, it's not directly related to rxTools/Gateway using NATIVE_FIRM. DevMenu/BigBlueMenu do not call the proper service commends when installing native_firm, thus the brick. You have to use sysupdater to install system update cias to sysnand and you still have to do so with a CFW that doesn't firmlaunch a native_firm that's newer then what you're trying to install.

Also updating using a retail cart will only work sefely if you use something similar to pasta that doesn't use firmlaunch to launch a newer native_firm since that will likely cause the firm install service calls to think native firm is already up to date and thus even updates from retail carts will still result in a brick. (probably one reason why updating from a rom in Gateway mode still bricks due to them using firmlaunch to launch a newer native firm)

gamesquest1 · Jul 2, 2015

AngelOfDeathEC said:
seems to be working, the thing is both screens are black :S

don't worry it should be fine, the BSOD than sometimes not occur, it just depends on how long it takes for your SD reader to initialize, if its slow the 3DS will start booting before the SD reader takes over (resulting in it just freezing on the black screens before it would of booted)

Apache Thunder said:
Hmm, You're suppose to be getting about 5 or so MB/s on transfer. You should double check your connections if the NAND restore fails.

(try again with shorter wires if it fails)

yeah speeds vary between SD readers, i recognize that reader as one of the pound shop variety so read/write on them can be a bit slow

Apache Thunder · Jul 2, 2015

yeah the sd reader I have does 5mb/s for my nand mod. Back before I swapped cases, one of the pins solder points broke on the connector my SD adapter connects so. So sometimes when it wasn't full engaged I would only get the speeds he's getting in that screenshot. Hence why I thought perhaps his connections need rechecking incase he finds it still doesn't boot after he restores his nand backup.

The troublesome pin on my NAND mod got pushed back when I inserted the SD adapter connector for the first time. The guy that nand modded it for me agreed to fix it for me. But I've been putting that off as I don't want to ship off the 3DS and be without it for 4+ days.

I still plan to have it fixed by the time I eventually get a N3DS (as I plan to sell my current 3DS. I can't afford to keep both.

)

gamesquest1 · Jul 2, 2015

Apache Thunder said:
yeah the sd reader I have does 5mb/s for my nand mod. Back before I swapped cases, one of the pins solder points broke on teh connector my SD adapter connects so. So sometimes when it wasn't full engaged I would only get the speeds he's getting in that screenshot. Hence why I thought perhaps his connections need rechecking incase he finds it still doesn't boot after he restores his nand backup.

yeah it could also indicate the wires are too long, or one of his connections is weak.....,but for a temp mod, as long as it writes and works fine its all good

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 2, 2015

well, everything went just fine, i could see the bottom screen working, so i think the restore was fine. Now to put all in place, hope the upper screen needs to be reconnected only.

A question... is there a way to keep the wires inside? i think im not gonna screw it again. But hey, that CLK pin was pretty hard to solder.

AngelOfDeathEC · Jul 3, 2015

Thanks to everyone for your help and advices, Got my O3ds working and even updated to 9.0 sysnand with pasta and sysupdater. :grog:

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