Hacking Discussion we need a good cfw and community
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History seldom looks back on those that make such claims at the time something is current and say "they were so right".
Anyway between ROMs for old systems (most floppy disc and cartridge based stuff is less than 30 gigs for the lot but start adding in stuff from CDs and DVDs and it gets quite big, very fast) games on the Switch (it might get some one day), hacked versions of said same (file replacement techniques are nice but only go so far), videos (its options to be a media centre are considerable to hear many tell it, and there are historical precedents here), music libraries... 400 gigs is basically nothing. 1.2 gigs an episode of something, it has some 100 episodes (5 or so American series length)... to say nothing of the ability to maybe stick the USB in something else later.
there are plenty of threads on here from people who CANNOT get atmos / reinx to work.. so the ''just copy it to an SD card'' argument appears to have issues.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ns-atmosphere-really-need-help.534412/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/cfw-won...-and-updating-atmosphere.534310/#post-8565558
or people having issues with atmos patches and games now working - https://gbatemp.net/threads/i-heard...e-sweet-patches-for-atmosphere.521164/page-38
the point being - what SOME people find easy, the MAJORITY do not as they do not have the experience or knowledge set. Like I would never belittle the mechanic who services my car, saying how hard can it be? Case in point, look at the spare of people messing around trying to downgrade their firmware and bricking their Switches.
What they did was attack a Switch that was running Sept to obtain the keys. The Atmosphere team will fix that going forward. Boom, TX is back to square one.
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If you can't manage to extract two zip files to an SD card, you aren't cut out for piracy.
I can link you the same threads about SX OS issues... I don't see your point.
Both CFW are copy/paste and that's it. No installation, no configuration. Granted, SX OS is just one file and that helps, but with Atmos/ReiNX if you just limit to extract the files to the sdcard, there won't be any issues.
If something doesn't work, it's user error. Simple as that, whether you like it or not.
We don't know yet if it is a sustainable boot method going forward, but it solves the issue now and guess what.. shows that TX should be able to devise a method to combat future OFW updates as well. It also shuts up the anti SX OS drama queen thread of ''no 7.x support''.
thank you for YOUR opinion.. once again. continuously.
I don't remember any drama in previous cycles of homebrew, and honestly I'm quite astounded it can happen in such small, largely voluntary communities at all.
In terms of the software I find Switch doesn't quite have the buzz either that 3DS did when it was hacked, and while the code was cracked earlier this time, the progress to making good use of it has seemed slower, which I suppose is both from departures of people that wanted to work on it, but honestly it's also because there's less reason for it anymore.
When 3DS was cracked there was interest in piracy and hacking for the numerous exclusive content for it; Besides first parties Switch has less of that stuff so far and in terms of making use of a jailbroken console we had the first good multitouch phones when 3DS came out and now we have multiple sorts of non-gaming devices that can do everything a pc can; it's just not as interesting as it used to be maybe. It's more about making a dedicated gaming machine that has ports and good emulation for me, and it seems it's harder to gain traction for developing stuff that isn't made for that purpose.
As for "toxicity", stare into the void and you know how it goes, man. The internet is the real toxicity here. That and a new couple of generations of youth growing up with new world-views that are fostered through the internet and skewing your perception of how the world works. Drama isn't newfound just for the hacking scene, it's newfound and increasingly frequent in general and it's because we live in the age of outrage culture. People thrive on controversy now and people are trying to get jabs at each other constantly. Open your eyes and learn to ignore it.
In terms of the software I find Switch doesn't quite have the buzz either that 3DS did when it was hacked, and while the code was cracked earlier this time, the progress to making good use of it has seemed slower, which I suppose is both from departures of people that wanted to work on it, but honestly it's also because there's less reason for it anymore.
When 3DS was cracked there was interest in piracy and hacking for the numerous exclusive content for it; Besides first parties Switch has less of that stuff so far and in terms of making use of a jailbroken console we had the first good multitouch phones when 3DS came out and now we have multiple sorts of non-gaming devices that can do everything a pc can; it's just not as interesting as it used to be maybe. It's more about making a dedicated gaming machine that has ports and good emulation for me, and it seems it's harder to gain traction for developing stuff that isn't made for that purpose.
As for "toxicity", stare into the void and you know how it goes, man. The internet is the real toxicity here. That and a new couple of generations of youth growing up with new world-views that are fostered through the internet and skewing your perception of how the world works. Drama isn't newfound just for the hacking scene, it's newfound and increasingly frequent in general and it's because we live in the age of outrage culture. People thrive on controversy now and people are trying to get jabs at each other constantly. Open your eyes and learn to ignore it.
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If people want to bicker, there is a PM function on this site. I encourage you to use it.
Oh believe me, the 3DS scene had TONS of drama and toxicity. The SX OS VS Atmos/ReiNX thing we're seeing now is almost a mirror of the Gateway VS free 3ds CFW that happened in the past
I think regardless, you need to let go of the idea of "toxicity". It's thrown around so much these days, it's like a thing that one person said and people are just yelling about it now with 100s of different ideas about what defines it. The thing is, toxicity is highly subjective and no one's really right in using it against another person or group without also being toxic to that same target themselves. There are better ways to discuss controversy than to call out a group with generalizing words like "toxic".
Unfortunately, within the scene, toxicity is a thing, especially on certain discord servers that shall not be mentioned. I for the most part ignore the toxicity and all the drama don't let it get to me(Unless it's hilarious like a certain...event that happened earlier this year). It's a vicious cycle unfortunately and very easy to get caught in
Well I guess this is the end of any switch CFW updates.Agree with OP. The most commented discussions are about fighting over the moral superiority of various stealing methods. The scene now is in stagnation because the lack of development, besides the good start there is nothing new in months. Reswitched hiding behind exuses of doing that they like are just averege skilled hackers. Product that allow piracy and using it gets you banned but saying they are against piracy is enough, that is definition by the book of hypocrisy. But worshiped by the masses here which are unable to point any critique so forward the hatred in other direction. And while coppier as TX are very useful the scene is in need of another group capable of some real development. Just my five (euro)cents.
The 3ds was not immune to it, as others covered, however I have noticed a simple uniting thread in that.
If the console has no games then all that is left is arguing over minor differences in custom firmware. If there are games people have to get back to the business of playing the things, or hacking the things to make them better.
You are using a significantly low quality device to do things that other devices (that most people have) do cheaper and better.
When I start to think this way, something stops me and is this reason:
CFW's are something that we aren't even supposed to get, and devs aren't even obligated to waste their free time developing them, but is something that they enjoy to do, let's not forget that they aren't people that are in debt with the community, they could not even give a fawk for us at first, but here you have them sharing their work for free to us.
So for me I let them be the way it comes no matter what, as I'm only a consumer.
Also and not less important, is not like the drama wasn't existing before the switch scene, something tells me that you didn't lived the 3DS hacking era since it's beginnings. Just remembering the devmenu, rxtools with sigpatches leaks and everything gives me the chills.
CFW's are something that we aren't even supposed to get, and devs aren't even obligated to waste their free time developing them, but is something that they enjoy to do, let's not forget that they aren't people that are in debt with the community, they could not even give a fawk for us at first, but here you have them sharing their work for free to us.
So for me I let them be the way it comes no matter what, as I'm only a consumer.
Also and not less important, is not like the drama wasn't existing before the switch scene, something tells me that you didn't lived the 3DS hacking era since it's beginnings. Just remembering the devmenu, rxtools with sigpatches leaks and everything gives me the chills.
Custom firmware and homebrew have been updating frequently.
Are you sure you're looking in the right places?
Even now it seems like Atmosphere is about to drop a new update soon.
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