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I like to think of myself as just to the right of Hammurabi. In reality, i'm probably classically liberal I guess.

Took that survey. Admittedly, I chose "neutral" on some of the more complex questions.

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I don't care about modern politics, as it diverts from the real issue and digs into "personal resolve" instead of trying to rectify real world issues.
It's hard to work on rectifying current issues when we elect regressive leadership that continuously adds new issues to rectify. At least 30% of the country believes we can get out of any hole by digging deeper.
 

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....... What do you THINK the ideals of the alt-right are, if I may ask?
That Islam is a violent religion(I also acknowledge Catholicism is a child rape cult and that isnt any better), that immigrants must assimilate to the their new culture(you get 2 years to learn the language, if you dont your out), revoke all special treatment(special ed, disability benefits, affirmative action), that natural selection is good(yes, that includes letting those with severe disabilitys die if they cant walk to the cabinet to get food or change their own diaper, I know they cant breed but they are a waste of resources since they cant have a good life anyway), anti-censorship(anything goes, all information should be free and legal).

I differ on some of their opinions though:
Immigration is fine, everyone should have the chance to live where they want and your innocent until proven guilty unlike the beliefs of some.
I am open to more liberal opinions and wont dismiss an entire persons beliefs over 1 thing I find stupid or factually wrong.
 

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why not? that's exactly what your forefathers did.
For a second I thought you were talking about the Nazi part and I was like OOF

But yeah, no, I'm totally with you there, a lot of people don't understand that crossing the border to seek refuge is actually a legal method of entry, and on top of that I've never gotten why the same people that bemoan how tyrannical and overreaching our central government is, suddenly trust them to enforce laws that they wrote on who should be able to enter the country for what reasons, and when

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That Islam is a violent religion(I also acknowledge Catholicism is a child rape cult and that isnt any better), that immigrants must assimilate to the their new culture(you get 2 years to learn the language, if you dont your out), revoke all special treatment(special ed, disability benefits, affirmative action), that natural selection is good(yes, that includes letting those with severe disabilitys die if they cant walk to the cabinet to get food or change their own diaper, I know they cant breed but they are a waste of resources since they cant have a good life anyway), anti-censorship(anything goes, all information should be free and legal).
Jesus Christ and you're fine with all that?! You do understand that that last bit is literally eugenics, right? That you're advocating for what was 100% legitimately one of the major backbones of the Nazi ideal?...
 

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Jesus Christ and you're fine with all that?! You do understand that that last bit is literally eugenics, right? That you're advocating for what was 100% legitimately one of the major backbones of the Nazi ideal?...

I am not for the racial, religious or anti-gay aspect at all, the Nazis tainted eugenics and now everyone thinks its bad, yes I believe in eugenics but what I stated above isnt even eugenics.

Eugenics requires actively killing the defective, this would just be them dying of natural causes, In this case the individuals viability as a person decides whether they live or not, not an extermination task force, its much harder to abuse for political gain/blind hatred.

To be blinded by kindness is just as bad as being blinded by hatred.
 

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I am not for the racial, religious or anti-gay aspect at all, the Nazis tainted eugenics and now everyone thinks its bad, yes I believe in eugenics but what I stated above isnt even eugenics.

Eugenics requires actively killing the defective, this would just be them dying of natural causes, In this case the individuals viability as a person decides whether they live or not, not an extermination task force, its much harder to abuse for political gain/blind hatred.

To be blinded by kindness is just as bad as being blinded by hatred.
I'm absolutely reeling, I've met people who definitely act like they want disabled people to die but I've never actually met somebody who just straight up admits it. Christ. Okay.

So just "how disabled" does someone have to be to revoke their right to not just be treated like a human being, but to fucking continue to live?
 
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I am not for the racial, religious or anti-gay aspect at all, the Nazis tainted eugenics and now everyone thinks its bad, yes I believe in eugenics but what I stated above isnt even eugenics.

Eugenics requires actively killing the defective, this would just be them dying of natural causes, In this case the individuals viability as a person decides whether they live or not, not an extermination task force, its much harder to abuse for political gain/blind hatred.

To be blinded by kindness is just as bad as being blinded by hatred.

Actively not helping those who need help when there's plenty of resources to do so, so they die is literally the same as just going for the kill outright.
Does your bullshit apply when someone breaks their legs?
What about general sickness? If they can't get out of bed to make food for themselves, is that meant to be a death sentence?

Some could argue that your way of looking at life and society is so far removed from reality, it could only qualiy as entirely defective. and by your reasoning, we shouldn't keep defective in the gene pool so... I dunno, I'm sure there's a suitable window nearby.
 
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If food, water and shelter were provided could you survive on your own for a month?
If yes you should be treated like a normal human, if no you are defective and a burden, many disabilitys cant be fixed but the person can live normally, obviously the colorblind shouldnt be killed just because they are different.

Different doesnt mean defective, diversity brings resilience.
 

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Actively not helping those who need help when there's plenty of resources to do so, so they die is literally the same as just going for the kill outright.
Does your bullshit apply when someone breaks their legs?
What about general sickness? If they can't get out of bed to make food for themselves, is that meant to be a death sentence?

Some could argue that your way of looking at life and society is so far removed from reality, it could only qualiy as entirely defective. and by your reasoning, we shouldn't keep defective in the gene pool so... I dunno, I'm sure there's a suitable window nearby.

If its temporary, no, thats what medicine is for.

As for the "thats socialism", I said I was for communism already?
If someone cant think(brain dead or retarded), they are not a person and thus communism doesnt apply in that case.
Greed and the glorification of the rich is far worse than any disability at the moment.(Just look at how Elon Musk behaves and is glorified, along with Steve Jobs)
 
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Well, according to the compass, I'm:

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A centrist leaning towards Libertarian.

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But these tests might not be that precise, I would have liked to answer "neutral" in some questions.
 
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What's the political spectrum position for "subscribing to labels like religious doctrines is dumb and the culture war is extremely dumb?"

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i fall into the category of wanting what’s right. the fact people choose what they believe solely because they’re part of a party and are limited to that parties so called beliefs is half the reason politics is getting nowhere except pissing people off.
This 100%.
 
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why not? that's exactly what your forefathers did.
Laws should be enforced, otherwise there would be chaos, but aside from "it's the law" I don't think I've ever heard a legit argument. Some of these people are bad and some good. Same with every group of humans ever.
 
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Because the "middle" is directly controlled by how far whichever side can pull the spectrum to their own extreme. This is an incredibly extreme example, but when the far end of one side is saying "hey we should cleanse an entire subset of the population because we're racially superior" and the far end of the other side is saying "how about we DON'T kill people, and if you try to spread that ideology we will physically fight you," logically speaking the '''''middle''''' would be "hey, let's NOT fight those people, and as a compromise they only get to kill SOME people"

There are some stances where you CAN'T allow compromise on one side or the other, because one side quite literally is just wrong. And as Lilith said, when you take a middle ground stance on a topic where one side is objectively wrong and has the means to enact their stance in a way that will cause harm to their target population, then you're doing more to help them than you are their opposition

I get what you're saying, but I've always seen this stance used as an example, I've never seen it actually put in practice. True centrism is trying to find compromise for both sides, but in practice and execution, in your example most people who are against the killing would end up being very center. A more proper example based on current events would be more like

"White men are responsible for the systematic oppression of all non-whites, so we're justified in hating them!"

vs

"Non-whites have the lowest IQs, Paul Joseph Watson told me so! They're also responsible for aggression in society, so we should hate them!"

which from people like me, both sides garner the response of "you're both dumb, shut the hell up already"
 
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