1. Clydefrosch

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    Stop trying to wiggle your way out of this, you're obviously inhuman either by choice or nature and you're proud of it too. If there's anyone on this planet not deserving to be treated like a 'normal human' its you and those like you.
     
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    I was a centrist leaning left, but now I'm basically a progressive liberal.

    13 years ago I was a Republican who graduated from a Bible College, 5 years ago I was a centrist, and the current political climate has pushed me further and further left because, quite frankly, I do not feel represented by the current US administration or by most, if any, government official (loads of decisions being made do not have me and mine in mind in the slightest. Why is asbestos being used again when it doesn't benefit the US hardly at all? Why are steel mills, fab shops, etc., in my area closing due to the tariffs that were supposed to be an easy win? I have to ask these questions on almost a weekly basis- it's all absurd pushes toward short-term gains for groups who do not represent me. Why?). Hell, I don't feel represented by Christianity, as it is practiced by most in the US, nor their churches. I went through a pretty bad swing of complete faithlessness after graduating (long story short: Friend was raped, wasn't allowed an abortion and she was too young to sign papers or something on her own, and she killed herself when she suffered postpartum depression. So her parents have the grandchild they wanted but she literally said she could not look at that child and not see her attacker, and then ended her life. Completely changed my views on abortion and the church, as these were members of a church protecting a deacon over their daughter).

    So now I'm a liberal practicing red letter Christianity. Christ said He's the new law- that's why eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, etc., don't apply any longer which He showed by turning the other cheek, etc.. I mention this because it also shaped my political views, because I don't recall Christ browbeating or berating homosexuals, etc., which is what most of the churches I've ever attended spend a substantial portion of their time doing, instead of actually being useful and functioning like a charity and fellowship as the first church by Peter did.

    So yeah, liberal. Long, verbose explanation of why I shifted from Bible-thumping Republican to liberal.
     
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    I'm sorry, what's wrong with Elon Musk? Far as I know, all he has done is push the adoption of electric cars, help push space travel and technology in general.
     
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    I am a communist
     
  5. gman666

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    Honestly, I'm majority liberal with various conservative leanings. For example, though I think social services should be readily available to citizens, I also believe that these programs should have stricter approval and people should be held accountable for misusing funds or taking advantage of the system. I also believe in more efficient government agencies and the removal of redundancy. A federally funded agency/department shouldn't create new positions or spend unnecessarily just to avoid having their budget cut. I also believe that the government should offload most social services to private or non-profit agencies instead of providing funding for both infrastructure (rented buildings, construction, maintenance), and employment. However, I still believe that the government should still subsidize these services/programs. Overall, that's just a small sample of my personal opinion, but I'm more than willing to scrutinize liberal ideology and conservative ideology whenever possible. Also, I despise partisanship... Why the hell would you align/restrict yourself to a political platform rather than using your brain to make a calculated decision? Be critical of everything people! But base your critique on facts!
     
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    He called someone a pedophile for disliking his scientifically unsound rescue attempt:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ave-rescue-diver-pedophile-twitter/786527002/

    Also blames his behavior on Ambian like Roseanne:
    https://bgr.com/2018/08/17/elon-musk-interview-with-nyt/

    He is also a huge bragger and thinks saying "go to mars" out loud makes you a scientist.
     
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    He's also close to having his company (Tesla) downgraded by financial agencies and constantly blames everyone else for terrible leadership decisions. And he is close to having a lawsuit on his hands for potentially lying to his investors about taking Tesla private and potentially manipulating such information to undercut short sales. In all honesty, his recent actions are very manic. But that doesn't mean that his accomplishments aren't significant, maybe America will get that Space Force up and running.
     
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    My entire family is pretty left leaning, however it has been pointed out that I am by far the most liberal of the bunch.
     
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    Not at all a fan of Musk's, but if we're being fair, people should read up on his father Errol Musk if they want to understand the reason behind some of his manic behavior. That guy is a scumbag extraordinaire, to the point that he actually fathered a kid with one of his step daughters. I'm sure he did a number on all his kids' minds.
     
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    Doesn't excuse Elon's shitiness. But yeah, the entire Musk family is just really screwed up. Elon's stock is plummeting right now, so I hope the investors are moving their funds to other bright and innovative individuals that have a slightly smaller and more palatable ego
     
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    And why not? Communist countries make the best video games.
     
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    So I've been thinking about what you suggested vs what I said, and like... Yes, in a lot of situations, what you said is probably the best descriptor, as well as probably the most relatively harmless expressions of racism (while still expressing it) that either party could produce. But then I remember Black Lives Matter, and the entire chain of events that kicked it off, and how centrists latched onto the whole "BLM is a terrorist organization!" narrative due to the actions of a handful of people a handful of times, rather than really looking into the problem that continues to be modern police brutality targeted towards minorities today. In that scenario (and that covers a LOT of ground today), I'd absolutely say my example is the more appropriate one
     
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    I've not seen any centrists doing this. The only people I've seen with such a stance are hardcore conservatives or old grandpas who get their political views from stupid shit they see on facebook. What you are describing is not a centrist take. This is the take of someone who opposes BLM, which is, by definition, the opposite of centrism.
     
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    Interesting. The situation might be different where you are, but here in Iowa I see a LOT of people who have stances along the lines of "well yeah the police obviously shouldn't be beating people up in general, but rioting and protesting like BLM isn't any better. (????) And by the way, why do 'black lives matter' more than anyone else?"

    It's pretty disgusting, but then again Iowa is a super red state. So again, the center here is pulled much further right, especially in the middle-aged range
     
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    I think this represents the biggest issue with American politics: Labels are thrown around but the meaning is constantly misused. What may be center for America is probably like moderate left or right for everywhere else. I really hope we don't reach the point where people say shit like "Oh, I'm not a libertarian, I'm an American Centrist" or something.
     
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    anarchist i just want to watch the world to burn for it's stupidity
     
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    First off you need to understand that every other word that comes out of Flame's mouth is sarcastic

    But secondly you also need to know that defending Alex Jones will not put you on the right, or smart, side of history. This is the guy that after being temp-banned from Twitter this last week told his followers to stockpile guns and take action, I'm still waiting for the inevitable fallout of that comment
     
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    you do realize that the approval rate from black communities is rising, yesterday it hit 37% i believe, and that was from a USA TODAY article. so if a left-wing news company is pushing that article out, it must be sorta true for your standards. I would've found something from fox news to prove you wrong, but then realized you don't think fox news is real anyway...

    Listen, i'm a black american. My ancestors were here from the 1800s, and were slaves. Not once have I ever thought trump was hateful towards black people, or anyone of ANY race for that matter. Sure, he does have the attitude and insult-making as a teenager, but thats WHY HE WON. He won because most americans(including me) were tired of the same old "i'll do this", "i'll do that" and then they never actually do it. Trump has done most everything he promised to do. I didn't vote for him in the 2016 election because I was told by every news company under the sun he was a racist, he was hitler, he hated me because I was black. But black unemployment rates are at a all time low because of him. For that, I thank him. He may not be a good person with women, he's a billionaire, they're all like that. I don't like WHO HE IS, I like what he's doing for the country.
     
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    what has trump done that he promised to do
     
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    Let's not act like Jones is a helpless victim here. Jones has outright called for violence on numerous occasions, has denied shootings numerous times with no regard of the emotional state of the families who lost their loved ones, and most importantly, releases shittons of intentionally falsified information to rile people up and further divide the country further.

    While I agree that people shouldn't be killed for saying stupid shit, I do also agree that Alex Jones (and infowars as a whole, especially disingenuous nutjobs like Paul Joseph Watson) needs to be deplatformed immediately, along with any other platform that partakes in his level of bullshit.

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    Why do people assume that someone would believe USA Today solely because it's a "left-wing" establishment? Does this line of reasoning come from the fact most people don't take shitholes like Breitbart, Fox News, and Infowars as credible sources of information?
     
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