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Look the guy is right. The thing is my 16 year old ass wont go and buy a 128GB card and explain to my parent why the f--- i did this. Also, who is the dingus that said he got 300 games in a 64 GB because it better be shitty GBA , VC and low 3DS MB games or a lie.
 
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I was wondering, could we transfer fat32 msd with A9HL and stuff to an exfat formatted msd ?
It would be very convenient since files larger than 4GB can NOT be stored on a FAT32 volume.
 
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Op Man how could one even know all games on eshop? Not even talking about playing them all...
Im using 32 gig and every time I finish a game I backup the save on pc and delete it, going to the next one. In case I wont play it in the next 2 month. Whats the point of keeping buncha games that u dont even play? Like, how many diffrent games u play per day? 5? 7? 12? And do u play diffrent games every day? Why are people keep games after they finish and know they wont play again?
As for others- he means to answer all the ppl who say u can place all the games on one 128 card... even if a9lh and all the base is less then 1gb u add less then 20 games to what he counted, so still u wont be able to play all the games there are for 3ds.
As for 300 limit, use few emunands together. 4 should be enough right? Or I dont understand something?
 

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The problem is that vc-titles (and custom ones) for GBA/SNES have near perfect emulation for most games. Homebrew-emulators suck compared to this. This is why ppl are installing them and getting to the icon-limit of 300.
SNES and GBA have a shitload of games which are way better gameplay-wise than most 3ds titles on market. Graphics are not everything :P You can't say that NewSMB is better than the old SuperMarioWorld for SNES (secret world inside special world inside star world; wtf!)

Also I recommend a 64GB because compared to a 128GB the boottime is cut in half (about 8secs). For me 64GB are really sufficient. I still have 15GB left and can delete about half of the content because I finished them.
Last point: With the price of a 128GB I can buy 2,5x 64GB cards at least in my country. That makes 160GB for the same price.
 
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Okay folks, let's do some basic maths. Then we'll learn about magnets... 'cause, magnets man, how do they work?

So I get a lot of trolls and naysayers out there who only recommend 64GB mSD/SD cards for your 3DS' system storage.


So here's the maths:

Next I'll give my mSD the grace of 7GB to work with. This means room for savedata, dumps, NAND backups, etc. Just some working space. (actually, that's a lot of working space, but I like condoms, because your parents didn't use one)

So we have an average of 800MB - 4.0GB for a single game. So let's be gracious and say the average .CIA game is 1.0GB (which compensates for the big/small games, unlike what's between your legs)

So for all of you out there using 32GB, yes, 1/3 of your SD will dissapear to A9LH. And that's being gracious. It's probably more like 5GB at max with -JUST- A9LH, no updates, no games, nada.

So:

Now, how many 3DS games exist?

So even if there is a game limit of 300 games to Luma3DS, even if you went nuts and got a 256GB mSD and formatted it in FAT32, guess what?

THERE IS NO F---ING WAY IN HELL YOU'LL EVER HIT THE 300 GAME LIMIT AND GET "ALL THE GAMES" ON 128GB mSD.

So go ahead, get your 128GB mSD. Fill it. Then use your GW RedCart to store the rest of your garbage on another 128GB if you'd like.

And even if we were mean, and said the average game was only 500MB (half a GB), that still wouldn't cut it on a 128GB. The 256GB? Maybe. But they'd be some small games. Prolly bad ones too. 512GB? Now we're talking... so let's go drop $500 on that bad boy... yeah, I thought so.

Only when you start talking 512GB do we even scratch being able to store all the games, but then the game limit will kick in at 300. Although I'm sure eventually that will be patched as well.

Currently the general market only offers up to 256GB mSD. So it'll be another dead president before we start seeing 1TB hit the market. But soon... 512GB? Yeah, you can find 'em. Wouldn't want to pay for 'em...

It will happen. HTC (and others) are already selling the A10 with a 2TB mSD reader. At this point, the phone will be useless before the 2TB mSD exists. So yeah... dream big.

Fin.

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As for "how well" does a 128GB mSD work? Well... it works. But there's some things you don't want to do with that amount of space:
  • DO NOT TRY TO INSTALL A9LH WITH YOUR 128GB mSD. Use a 32GB. THEN you can copy over the mSD files and use your 128GB.
  • DO NOT USE DEVMENU/BIGBLUEMENU WITH 128GB, even FBI has some quirks...
  • DO NOT BE SHOCKED THAT THINGS TAKE LONGER TO LOAD (especially icons and rom file lists that aren't subfoldered). YOU WILL WAIT 1-3 MINS BEFORE IT IS DONE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY FILES IT NEEDS TO READ
Interesting read. I just have one question.
Where are the magnets? I was promised magnets.
 
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The problem is that vc-titles (and custom ones) for GBA/SNES have near perfect emulation for most games. Homebrew-emulators suck compared to this. This is why ppl are installing them and getting to the icon-limit of 300.
SNES and GBA have a shitload of games which are way better gameplay-wise than most 3ds titles on market. Graphics are not everything :P You can't say that NewSMB is better than the old SuperMarioWorld for SNES (secret world inside special world inside star world; wtf!)

Also I recommend a 64GB because compared to a 128GB the boottime is cut in half (about 8secs). For me 64GB are really sufficient. I still have 15GB left and can delete about half of the content because I finished them.
Last point: With the price of a 128GB I can buy 2,5x 64GB cards at least in my country. That makes 160GB for the same price.
Why ppl use hb emulators:Homebrew emulators have more savepoints. Snes can run on o3ds only with them. Gba runs on vc o3ds and not hb emulators on same console only because its hardware emulation. 20 roms(gba,gbc,(s)nes...) plus hb emulator weight less then 20 vc roms. Also downloading anly an old rom each time takes way less time tgen downloading the whole vc pack for each game... there are lots of reasons to use hb over vc

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Interesting read. I just have one question.
Where are the magnets? I was promised magnets.
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Why ppl use hb emulators:Homebrew emulators have more savepoints. Snes can run on o3ds only with them. Gba runs on vc o3ds and not hb emulators on same console only because its hardware emulation. 20 roms(gba,gbc,(s)nes...) plus hb emulator weight less then 20 vc roms. Also downloading anly an old rom each time takes way less time tgen downloading the whole vc pack for each game... there are lots of reasons to use hb over vc

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What snes emulator has savestates and runs at 60 for more than like 3 games?

edit: on o3ds, not n3ds
 

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Why ppl use hb emulators:Homebrew emulators have more savepoints. Snes can run on o3ds only with them. Gba runs on vc o3ds and not hb emulators on same console only because its hardware emulation. 20 roms(gba,gbc,(s)nes...) plus hb emulator weight less then 20 vc roms. Also downloading anly an old rom each time takes way less time tgen downloading the whole vc pack for each game... there are lots of reasons to use hb over vc

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Custom VCs are cia files. And there are far more than 300. Yeah that o3ds didn't get the compatibility that sucks but look at the hb-emulator you mentioned. Performance is real bad for most games. You can't just tweak 15fps to 60fps when the hardware is too weak to handle this.
 
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Custom VCs are cia files. And there are far more than 300. Yeah that o3ds didn't get the compatibility that sucks but look at the hb-emulator you mentioned. Performance is real bad for most games. You can't just tweak 15fps to 60fps when the hardware is too weak to handle this.
Doesnt gb/c run in hb emu's near perfectly on o3ds?
I have n3ds and use vc only for fancy-ness... I was using arch emu's for nes, snes and gb/c and it run perfectly. Never had any issues. 60fps as far as i can tell. If there are few games with bad performance- use vc only for them to save space.
As I said I prefer vc, I just say that hb emus arent that bad as ppm say...

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What snes emulator has savestates and runs at 60 for more than like 3 games?

edit: on o3ds, not n3ds
On o3ds theres no vc for snes... so u have no point...
 

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I was wondering, could we transfer fat32 msd with A9HL and stuff to an exfat formatted msd ?
It would be very convenient since files larger than 4GB can NOT be stored on a FAT32 volume.
sure go ahead. of course you can transfer from your fat32 formatted msd to an exfat msd
the thing is, 3ds doesn't read exfat.
why do you want exfat on the 3ds anyway?
 
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Also ntr + blarg ahould get u savepoints and 60fps for snes dont it? Lol
 

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128GB mSD formatted to FAT32 actually results in 117GB. In fact, it doesn't matter what format it is in. It will only give you 117GB to actually work with. Why? Go f--- yourself. That's why.
Lookup basic how Hard Drives Filesystem works. Cluster, Sector, and and. Thats why...

THERE IS NO F---ING WAY IN HELL YOU'LL EVER HIT THE 300 GAME LIMIT AND GET "ALL THE GAMES" ON 128GB mSD.
I don't want to say you are wrong.. BUT since you also count a9lh.
Let us say a avarage of 1GB per Game like you used. We will say about 100 Official Games, since i have around 100 on my sd.
Current State: 100GB / 117GB | 100 / 300 CIA's

I'm the person who has a backup of his nand on the SD, also of his EmuNand. Then the Emunand Partion. For N3DS thats.
Nand Backup: 2GB
EmuNand Backup: 2GB
EmuNand Partion: 2GB

Current State: 106GB / 117GB | 100 / 300 CIA's

Since we want to install cia's we need.. A CIA TOOL! 101 DING. 199 to go. mhmm.. maybe VC Games? Hombrews? I got around 20 Homebrews without VC Games.
Current State: 106GB / 117GB | 121 / 300 CIA's

Still there is some space left... but to be honest.. That's still a bad round up... Your sd space is maxed out.. still cias space left.. or cia space is maxed out and sd space left.
It doesn't even matter what SD Card size you use. The difference is HOW you use it.
The best avarage result you will get with a 2 SD Card by FlashCard, but it's not a winner result.

Oh EDIT: I'm using 64GB in my Gateway Card und 32GB in my N3DS. More than enough.
More EDIT: For me this is another CFW IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN GATEWAY XOXOXOXO!<33 Thread... peps.. no one cares.. if it works.. it works.
 
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3DS doesn't read exfat ? Didn't know that.
Well there's no point transfering fat32 to exfat then.
I was asking because we might need to store larger than 4GB files one day.
 

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I'm the person who has a backup of his nand on the SD, also of his EmuNand. Then the Emunand Partion. For N3DS thats.
Nand Backup: 2GB
EmuNand Backup: 2GB
EmuNand Partion: 2GB
he mentioned something interesting.
"working space" 8gb for saves, screenshots and other miscellaneous stuff

if you keep the nand backups in that sd card because "one more copy cant hurt" it's your choice..
however i am not the guy that keeps this stuff on the card, i keep the console without this kind of stuff to prevent accidents.. and if i plan to restore a nand or something, i will backup the msd card so, less 4 gbs= less to backup from the card...
thus on the computer i usually have a different name or a text file explaining to my future self the state of that nand backup (installed hax, installed games etc, date of backup, checksum codes to verify

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3DS doesn't read exfat ? Didn't know that.
Well there's no point transfering fat32 to exfat then.
I was asking because we might need to store larger than 4GB files one day.
heh, i don't really see the use for.. i mean, if your sd card is shared by other devices i can see why you would want exfat..
above 4gb all i can think is you would like to watch movies on the console..
however with it's resolution and specs even i doubt you can really want or will watch big ass movies on it..
thus streaming is a thing nowadays...

there are some 3ds cartridge dumps above 4gb, but it's not like you can use them without converting to cia...
 
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