Hacking MT card Hardware Ver1.2 released

[gamesquest1]

There was no public 2.0. Only a leaked Private Beta.

criss-cross....lol got him back on the mistake he got you with XD

.....alllthouughhh, there was indeed the 2.0 b1 and b2 public beta's

 

[Technicmaster0]

criss-cross....lol got him back on the mistake he got you with XD

.....alllthouughhh, there was indeed the 2.0 b1 and b2 public beta's

But that were pre 2.0 betas, too.

 

[CFallenleaf]

But that were pre 2.0 betas, too.

Of course silly me

 

[Cyan]

alpha, beta, gamma, omega, etc. are all development steps before final released version.
2.0 omega meant "latest pre-final version".

But I think they liked that "omega" name, and renamed their card that way when releasing the final version.
The Omega is now the product/version 2.x code name and not the development step, they even redesigned their website based on that name.
Instead of 2.0 final, they released "omega" v2.1

*just guessing*

 

[jahtown]

yeah, i had update my Mt card with no problem. maybe you should change another USB cable, or when you use the micro USB cable to connect MT card to the PC., did you find the MT card update button is on? Actually, the computer will automatically install the drivce.

I've tried 3 different computer , 2 different OS (XP,7) , 2 different USB Cable and i've still got that damn Unknow device that can't be updated error

 

[Joe88]

does the card still work in the 3ds?

 

[jahtown]

does the card still work in the 3ds?

Nope

 

[gamesquest1]

:S sounds like a failed update.....i wonder if MT has a recovery option

 

[Joe88]

that means its bricked, I don't think you can repair it (not without soldering and a jtag programer at least)
try sending an email to the team about it
it may have been a faulty connection in these hand soldered cards

 

[gamesquest1]

just for the sake of "trying" to see if there is a sort of recovery code built in, see if holding the button whilst plugging it in gets it to show up.....this is the only way i could imagine them being able to implement any sort of recovery for failed updates

 

[jahtown]

that means its bricked, I don't think you can repair it (not without soldering and a jtag programer at least)
try sending an email to the team about it
it may have been a faulty connection in these hand soldered cards

That's some bad news
I've mailed them yesteday , they only told me the same thing that they are already saying in their PDF. I'll try to talk to them about a possible brick.

just for the sake of "trying" to see if there is a sort of recovery code built in, see if holding the button whilst plugging it in gets it to show up.....this is the only way i could imagine them being able to implement any sort of recovery for failed updates

I've already try this solution , unfortunately nothing happens

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Mega-Thieving Card gets an update, what a coincidence. Support Gateway the people actually doing the coding work. Do you think any people involved with this card even have an idea what's going on with the most of the code they are copying, or about the 3DS internals? Heading into the future, lets think which team is going to progress the scene more. The more Gateways sold the better chance they will work harder on attempting to find exploit routes on later versions, keeping up compatibility, etc.

While money to these guys just means less likely of any progress at all, support the innovators. If you already got an MT-card then enjoy it until GW works out a way to brick them and they can't copy anymore. Who knows maybe this update has a timebomb in it?

 

[Saturosias]

Mega-Thieving Card

All of these flashcarts help users mega-thieve from 3DS devs, this thread is announcing new features.

support the innovators

Agreed, actually buying the games instead of pirating them is better. But the latter is cheaper, and MT-card is a bit cheaper than Gateway, so it's up to the end-user.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Gateway isn't selling bootleg games, they are selling an original piece of work, a device that had a lot of reverse engineering work put into it. It's not relevant to the game developers work in any way. Like you would support an innovative developer instead of a by-the-numbers shitty COD clone; which is still not a good comparison, it's more like someone taking Call of duty and hacking the title screen to say Men of WAR.

But guys Men of WAR is a bit cheaper so i'll buy that! Because obviously money going to the Men of WAR developers from China is going to important stuff like expanding Mr. Cloners extensive JAV collection. Buying GW supports actual innovation in console hacking behind the scenes beyond just the 3DS and this one product.

 

[gamesquest1]

Gateway isn't selling bootleg games, they are selling an original piece of work, a device that had a lot of reverse engineering work put into it. It's not relevant to the game developers work in any way. Like you would support an innovative developer instead of a by-the-numbers shitty COD clone; which is still not a good comparison, it's more like someone taking Call of duty and hacking the title screen to say Men of WAR.

But guys Men of WAR is a bit cheaper so i'll buy that! Because obviously money going to the Men of WAR developers from China is going to important stuff like expanding Mr. Cloners extensive JAV collection. Buying GW supports actual innovation in console hacking behind the scenes beyond just the 3DS and this one product.

starts off sounding like the usual BS, but he has a point, i believe the current homebrew efforts all came from the original gateway exploit....same with all the fantastic homebrew that happened on the original DS....yeah crap happens but it does have its positive side....you just have to squint a bit until you can't see the main reason no more

 

[Technicmaster0]

Mega-Thieving Card gets an update, what a coincidence. Support Gateway the people actually doing the coding work. Do you think any people involved with this card even have an idea what's going on with the most of the code they are copying, or about the 3DS internals? Heading into the future, lets think which team is going to progress the scene more. The more Gateways sold the better chance they will work harder on attempting to find exploit routes on later versions, keeping up compatibility, etc.

MT was the first to have multiROM, their current launcher is based on GW2.2Beta and they very likely made NAND support on their own. What's your problem?

While money to these guys just means less likely of any progress at all, support the innovators.

That's not how the scene works. The flashcard teams work until they have enough money (that can be serveral millions) and then they simply disappear.

Gateway isn't selling bootleg games, they are selling an original piece of work, a device that had a lot of reverse engineering work put into it. It's not relevant to the game developers work in any way.

Again, why is it not allowed to post direct links to the GW launchers here?

 

[tbgtbg]

alpha, beta, gamma, omega, etc. are all development steps before final released version.
2.0 omega meant "latest pre-final version".

They called the new version Omega because Omega sounds cool and it's flashier than saying "Version 2.0", nothing more. Alphas are very early and often incomplete, betas are near final mostly looking to find any remaining major bugs. If they need another version after beta, they put out another beta, not a delta or gamma or whatever. Anyone using the whole greek alphabet for testing releases is doing something very non-standard.

Again, why is it not allowed to post direct links to the GW launchers here?

Because lawyers suck and fear of a lawsuit, even a potentially baseless one, is enough to get most people to shit themselves. Especially when the one threatening has much bigger pockets than you have. What a site is willing to host or not isn't indicative of what is actually legal or not, just what they are willing to risk defending or not.

 

[Cyan]

I think it wasn't a question but the answer to

Gateway isn't selling bootleg games, they are selling an original piece of work, a device that had a lot of reverse engineering work put into it. It's not relevant to the game developers work in any way.

meaning that they didn't do all the original work as they are providing nintendo's Firmware in their launcher so it's relevant to original developers.

Then, maybe I misunderstood his reply.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Whats your obvious vested interest in pushing the MT card? Anyone with half a brain thought up the idea that a hardware switch could be made to switch between banks that the rom was stored on. But why bother with such a rushed dumb feature when it's obvious Gateway had full access to the system and would be able to implement it as they extended their firmware modifications?

They don't simply disappear, that's not how the 'scene' works at all. Some of the active people in the scene have been involved for 20 years now (back then obviously and for a long time, Chinese-made and designed hardware solutions were the only choice, but doesn't mean people weren't involved in software hacking or reselling in the console area). Every project now is just marketed separate and connections are kept quiet, for obvious reasons.

I feel like you know this and are deliberately saying the opposite anyway though.

And you also know that because something might content parts of copyright code it doesn't mean it's not an original piece of work but you'll argue semantics anyway.

The clone teams cannibalize sales of original pieces of work.. this is why when a Wii-U solution appears, i will bet you hard cash its deliberately designed with the intention to stop clones of it. The fact is, it was hacked long ago, we all know this. But the people who hacked it don't want their work cloned and sold for a fraction of the price with none of the hacking work.

 

[Technicmaster0]

Because lawyers suck and fear of a lawsuit, even a potentially baseless one, is enough to get most people to shit themselves. Especially when the one threatening has much bigger pockets than you have. What a site is willing to host or not isn't indicative of what is actually legal or not, just what they are willing to risk defending or not.

As Cyan started: The Gateway launcher overwrites a part of the 3DS firmware in the RAM (if I understood that right), so that Gatway has to deliver the destroyed parts for a recovery within their launcher. These files are copyrighted by Nintendo and that's the reason why the launchers are illegal.
But it was a rethorical question.

Whats your obvious vested interest in pushing the MT card? Anyone with half a brain thought up the idea that a hardware switch could be made to switch between banks that the rom was stored on. But why bother with such a rushed dumb feature when it's obvious Gateway had full access to the system and would be able to implement it as they extended their firmware modifications?

MT-Card had to edit the firmware for their solution, too. Look at the "Switch lock" when you are playing/ pausing a game.

They don't simply disappear, that's not how the 'scene' works at all. Some of the active people in the scene have been involved for 20 years now (back then obviously and for a long time, Chinese-made and designed hardware solutions were the only choice, but doesn't mean people weren't involved in software hacking or reselling in the console area). Every project now is just marketed separate and connections are kept quiet, for obvious reasons.

DS-Xtreme, R4, many chinese clones and now even Acekard, M3 etc.

And you also know that because something might content parts of copyright code it doesn't mean it's not an original piece of work but you'll argue semantics anyway.

Gateway patches the sigchecks of the 3DS. It obviously is made for everything else than playing ROMs. And GW can't patch one last signature to allow Homebrew, sure.

Always remeber, monopols can result in lazyness very easily.