1. iNFiNiTY

    iNFiNiTY GBAtemp Advanced Fan
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    Doesn't you listing a load of Chinese teams prove my point exactly? You can't see the difference between those teams and say, Team Xecutor for example? Gateway is not a Chinese team, and they didn't just appear out of the blue and disappear again when the product is obsolete.

    I don't know why you bring up the irrelevant point they don't allow you to run your own code. The devices purpose is obvious.

    Why doesn't MT card patch that last signature to allow homebrew? Because they have no clue maybe? Running homebrew could be a selling point, couldn't it?

    I think infact Gateway originally stated one long-term goal was infact to allow homebrew code, i guess within a user-mode sandbox; or they will totally open the device at the end of the products lifecycle. You could just say 'no they are lying' but i'm pretty sure they get the benefit of the doubt considering they are actually doing everything they said originally.
     
  2. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!
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    Again, DS-Xtreme and CycloDS.

    You shoudln't present Gateway as "legal heros" if their only goal is to run ROMs. That's my point. MT isn't interested in Homebrew, too.
     
  3. iNFiNiTY

    iNFiNiTY GBAtemp Advanced Fan
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    By the way i'm not even against the existence of the MT-card. Just there's blatantly people on this board signing up, or existing members, who are biased or have some monetary interest in promoting the MT-card. So it's only fair someone defends the opposite way.

    Nobodies saying anything about legal heroes. It's just common sense to support the actual people who know how to hack the 3DS vs some people who know how to modify another 3DS hack and rename it. Attempting to divert attention away from that simple fact isn't going to fool people.

    Do you have a lot of MT card stock you gotta shift or something?

    PS: why is the goal to run homebrew 'heroic' anyway.. its not like there's not a deluge of systems you could be coding for freely, cheaper with far better specs than the 3DS. When homebrew does appear on a system the main thing people want is emulators.. do you think Nintendo is happy with emulators considering they have virtual console.
     
  4. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!
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    The problem is that there are the new users who defend the MT and the rest of the users is only for Gateway.

    MT knows how to do the most stuff. They removed the bricking code, made their own NAND Save and Multi-ROM support etc. I think that many GBAtemp users have a too bad view on the MT (especially since almost no one here owns one and this and the review of ds-scene are not good, either).

    Do you really think that I own a shop?

    Homebrew is much more "heroic" than ROMs. In addition to that, I don't really think that you can get an open system for the same price with the same features (3D) and a stable, not lagging firmware. I know what Nintendo thinks about Emulation (I wrote them an Email some months ago ;)). There are other good homebrews without Emulation: DSCraft, Aperature Science, Moonshell, Fireworlds, Everlasting etc. Homebrew has much more style if it's on closed systems like the DS.
     
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  7. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!
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    lol... so many fake accounts
     
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    gateway did release it with eshop working the day after or something, but it doesn't mean they did not work on it before, right? :) they could have spent a week on it, etc
     
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    Lol the could have spent almost a month on it lol
     
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    well i don't think the two eshop games were out that long :) but sure
     
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    Dear legit looking "Mika May", you better start supporting those Eshop games or Ill go berserk on yo ass!
     
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    Lol ok. So like two weeks then. Man i thought longer had passed since they were dumped. I wonder whats gonna get dumped next.

    Edit: eshop wise that is.
     
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    MT-Card only supported multirom first because they took the easy and less attractive route and built the button into their hardware, everything else they've ever done is a clone of Gateway with a few edits here and there.
     
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  14. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!
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    It's not really that dependend on the hardware. You can select the games in MT-Card menu, too and it blocks the switch at the card while a game is used. It depends on the point of view whether it's less attractive or not. Some people might prefer the hardware switch.
    Yaay, Gateway clones Nintendo's NAND with a few edits here and there and called it EmuNAND. What's so bad about that?
     
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    @ Mika May I saw your post on MT-Cards Multirom comment and this is what I thought about it:-

    I had a look at MT-Cards Multirom system for the first time and I thought it was horrible, really cheap and so nasty I was shocked at first sight to see how they do it at least with Gateways mutilrom menu there is a proper menu in display when you press select and you can see the icons of the original games to choose from with MT-Cards Multirom menu you just go to a blue screen and select your game, yuck, crap! How can you comment on saying you think MT-Cards way/system is better!, all MT-Card do is rip Gateways Custom Firmware and add there little cheap bits to it, nothing more about the company is good, its beyond me I think its quite obvious to the masses that Gateway is original and the best choice for the end consumer by far, unless you are blind, are you blind Mika May?
     
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    Can we stop fightning and instead start raging why Eshop games arent supported yet?!
     
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    I think the point is, if MT where such fantastic coder's they would of built their own firmware from the ground up, no matter what they do now....it all based on gateway, if they had spent a bit longer just "remaking" the firmware.....i.e still copying but at least recoding it from scratch, they would have a bit more respect, but as it stands its more like a SMW hack......yeah its all cool but the original dev's deserve most of the credit for building the foundations and core work.....hacking something to work slightly different is much easier than coding a whole project from scratch....if it wasn't there would be no hacked and cracked programs for PC's just a load of remade stuff

    anyways i dont really care, but its stupid to imply MT did amazing work by hacking someone else's work, same as gateway doesn't get the respect for the quality games made for the 3ds, at most they did a good job hacking gateways firmware, that's all
     
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    Why should they do that if it's faster to take GW's work as a base?
     
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    simple, to be something other than a cheap clone :lol:
    right now that's their reputation, it could of been much different, but instead they took the easy route....not exactly deserving of respect in that sense
     
  20. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!
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    Even Yellow Wood Goblin who wrote the famoust Wood firmware for the R4i Gold etc. which got copied many times took the firmware of the Acekard R.P.G. as base. No one complains about that!
     
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    im not complaining, i genuinely don't care, it was bound to happen but i'm just saying people acting like MT is some brand new and hard core Sh*t are deluded, who know maybe in the future they will start adding some amazing stuff but right now, right down to their multi rom solution, it doesn't exactly scream amazing coding abilities, gateway who developed the whole hack have proved they have some pretty amazing coding abilities already, much the same as me copying 90%of a tests answers off someone else doesn't make me a genius even if i do add some little bits too it, just looking at the bits they did add it wasn't exactly the same level of skill involved in developing the entire hack
     
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    Maybe they just bought it.
     
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