Anti-PIRACY Six Strikes Law Starts Tomorrow???

[SuzieJoeBob]

That might work until

a) they employ someone like me to work from home and use my own connection. As it stands quite a few companies farm out the work to third parties.

b) they get their own VPN/proxy

somewhere between a and b) they buy a throwaway 3g connection for a week or so.

c) they gain control of a tracker as part of a sting or otherwise obtain access to logs there. Now trackerless might help slightly, maybe here but probably not a lot.

It also assumes they will be on there 24/7 - most of the "hits" thus far have been fairly random. It also assumes they have no qualms about uploading (companies are usually given indemnity for this- nothing wrong with seeding the same few hundred bytes of AVI header, sample or NFO either).

Of course this is why peerblock is useless as none of this requires advanced skills or so much as a custom program.

You have very good points, and I agree with all of them. Too many things are made to accommodate the ignorant. Remember: ignorance is bliss, but that bliss is only for the ignorant people. The intelligible people do not get any.

 

[XDel]

Qtis and Gahars, I was waiting on that. Did I tell you I also have a band too? The bottom line is though is perspective and priority, ain't nothing wrong with a little gaming, music and general entertainment, though at the same time they ain't gonna save us or the world.

 

[andy26129]

How will one be notified? By email, pop up message, does someone know?

 

[retKHAAAN]

Qtis and Gahars, I was waiting on that. Did I tell you I also have a band too? The bottom line is though is perspective and priority, ain't nothing wrong with a little gaming, music and general entertainment, though at the same time they ain't gonna save us or the world.

1) why so bold, brah?

2) You have a band!?! Cool! Are people downloading your work for free without your permission too?!?

3) Nothing wrong with entertainment. Entitlement is a disease though. It's contagious. And you should really get that checked out...

 

[Rydian]

How will one be notified? By email, pop up message, does someone know?

Physically. Call or letter or something.

 

[Engert]

There never was any privacy on the internet. You may hide behind a name to the world, but the people running the website still know who you are. They just don't have any reason to contact you when you say "This SUCKS!!!"

Really?
The only thing that sucks here is your post.

 

[XDel]

1) why so bold, brah?

2) You have a band!?! Cool! Are people downloading your work for free without your permission too?!?

3) Nothing wrong with entertainment. Entitlement is a disease though. It's contagious. And you should really get that checked out...

Bold? I guess because nothing gets done if I'm not?

Not sure how to answer that one.

Anyhow, I'm just speaking my mind, my perspectives and this and that. They are not popular, I get that, don't conform to public consensus, media reality, and this and that, but they are mine, I find them helpful, and I should not be ashamed of that. Having said that, I don't hate anyone here for not seeing things like I do, for having opposing views, or what have you. The way I see it is we are all sheep, none of us is perfect, none of us knows everything, so I think we can find some common hood in that and the enjoyment of our play things. And to be clear once more, I am not demonizing all of entertainment, I am just warning about the consequences of entertainment worship and technophelia, and this and that.

You guys are alright with me and I thank you for the arguments regardless if they agree with me or not, it's just fun to have some good old fashioned head butting, it's good for the soul.

And now I leave with a religious quote, just because I know religion and belief in The Spirit/Force is not a popular thing to do now a days either.

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. - Matthew 10:16

Oh, and nobody likes my music, so no, no one is pirating it ha ha ha! I just do it for the enjoyment of it though I will say that many of the bands I listen to such as Immortal Technique, encourage people to pirate their albums and get their message out there. After all, most profits come from concert tours not CD sales. Known fact.

 

[Gahars]

So bold.

 

[XDel]

So bold.

I know, I mean I never considered ranting on a video game forum as being bold necessarily, but if that's what it is then I guess call me bold?

 

[Rydian]

Really?
The only thing that sucks here is your post.

What? No.

His post is pointing out that while people like you and I may seem anonymous to each other, the people who actually run the servers and services have access to the info needed.

For example I don't know where you live. Your WAN IP is linked to your geographic location, so if I get that (via you viewing any sort of image on any server I have a measure of control over, such as my signature) I can find your general location, but that's about it. While your WAN IP is linked to your home address, the only organization that has the info is your ISP, and there's no way I'm getting it legally.

However your ISP has the info, and they will hand it to legal authorities if requested. So while I don't know how you are, they can easily find out.

In addition even when it comes to things like proxies, if you connect through a proxy you're going through their hardware, so not only does the proxy know who you are and what site you're going to, they can actually see a lot of the info that goes through them.

And most legit proxies have no problem handing connection logs to the authorities.

 

[nando]

wait. wouldn't stopping illegal downloads drive more people to purchase pirated media on the streets which would give more money to the supposed terrorists?

 

[Engert]

I know, I mean I never considered ranting on a video game forum as being bold necessarily, but if that's what it is then I guess call me bold?

Bold men are winners. Don't let anybody tell you different. Especially when you quote the Bible because it's not cool to do so.
Join this thread XDel.


Rydian,

correct except this part:

And most legit proxies have no problem handing connection logs to the authorities.

Many proxies are outside of the jurisdiction of any country. So the point is, there is still freedom online. The problem with this freedom as always is the human element who will use it for malicious means thus forcing the governments around the world to put a tighter leash on the Internet.
But when it comes to the Internet of 1996...that was true free Internet. Back in the days when your eyes witnessed Gif animations over dialup.
Here's AOL page on December 1996:
http://web.archive.org/web/19961220154856/http://www.aol.com/

Here's gbatemp on 2003
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212075655/http://gbatemp.m4d.sm/

Those were the glory days the free days.

 

[Myke]

time to renew my usenet subscription

 

[XDel]

Bold men are winners. Don't let anybody tell you different. Especially when you quote the Bible because it's not cool to do so.
Join this thread XDel.

Ha ha ha, too funny! Thank you for your invitation to dwell amongst the elite, I feel so privileged!

 

[stinkoman]

wait. wouldn't stopping illegal downloads drive more people to purchase pirated media on the streets which would give more money to the supposed terrorists?

Those people don't even exist. Fucking government shoving fake terrorists down our throats.

 

[XDel]

Those people don't even exist. Fucking government shoving fake terrorists down our throats.

Oh man, I think Nando is on to something here! I'm very afraid for my security and I've got a hunch that those booths at Comic Con are merely fronts for Fifth Column activities!!!

 

[Maxternal]

I don't live in the U.S. but I already had experience where companies in the U.S. threatened MY ISP, informing them that I my IP address was sharing what it was downloading in a P2P fashion and that they had to unplug my Internet until I promised I would stop or my ISP would loose THEIR connection to the Internet. I've been a little more selective about torrenting since then but I do notice a lot of dead to torrents with the same IP address in the peer list just sitting there. My paranoid suspicion is that THAT's the server they use to monitor whatever torrents they can get their hands on.

This makes it sound like it's likely to get more wide spread and it might be hard to keep up with the list of IP addresses I should be blacklisting. Even living outside the U.S. it can still have an effect on me.

 

[Engert]

Even living outside the U.S. it can still have an effect on me.

You should route your traffic somewhere where U.S. has no jurisdiction.

EDIT: Technically U.S. has no jurisdiction outside its own borders but there are countries who kiss ass and there are counties who don't kiss ass.
You should route your traffic in countries that don't kiss ass.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

Is Usenet safe or am I better off with a VPN or seedbox?

 

[Maxternal]

You should route your traffic somewhere where U.S. has no jurisdiction.

I suppose I could just blacklist the whole country as far as torrenting but then I'm sure I'd miss out on a lot of good peers. I guess it doesn't hurt to try and see how my download speeds compare.