Hacking Can the Wii U output 240p in Wii mode?

[Vegeta]

I use some of the emulators on the Wii in 240p on a 4:3 Sony CRT for an authentic look, can the Wii U in Wii mode do the same or does it not support 240p?

 

[Deltaechoe]

The Wii U is compatible with all the original Wii A/V cables so you can use the low definition cabling

 

[Ericthegreat]

I mean, what does it look like lol? More blurry, more pixelated?

 

[Linkinwormm]

wii lowest res is 480i

 

[Vegeta]

wii lowest res is 480i

So you're saying the lowest res in Wii mode on Wii U is 480i even with emulators like Genesis GX and RetroArch that support low res modes like 240p?

The original Wii can do 240p with the above emulators.

 

[Linkinwormm]

So you're saying the lowest res in Wii mode on Wii U is 480i even with emulators like Genesis GX and RetroArch that support low res modes like 240p?

The original Wii can do 240p with the above emulators.

ah right been out the wii scene shortly after the orginal backup loader was released, I think the wii u does output a bit different to wii because it has a digital output rather than analogue, but i could be wrong, I know my TV will report wii mode as 1080p still, but the vwii software is upscalled by the wii not the TV my nearest neighbor or something

 

[Maxternal]

Yeah, that's the case on DIGITAL output but what about if you take the analog cables off of your old Wii and move them over to your Wii U, what happens if you try to go into vWii ? ... and then when you try to have an emulator set the lower resolution? I think there was even a button combination on VC games that would switch it down to 240p (used buttons from the nunchuck IIRC). What does that do in vWii? I'm kinda curious, too.

 

[Deltaechoe]

When you run an emulator that has a lower native resolution, it just upscales it so you see it pixelated kind of like how you see wii games upscaled on the Wii U when using an HDMI cable

 

[Vegeta]

When you run an emulator that has a lower native resolution, it just upscales it so you see it pixelated kind of like how you see wii games upscaled on the Wii U when using an HDMI cable

Even if you use a RGB SCART cable?

 

[beano311]

Even if you use a RGB SCART cable?

Even if you're playing a game at 240p, the Wii is upscaling it to 480i/p. It can't do 240p, neither can the Wii U. The closest thing you're going to get is if you listen to what's been said already and use the old Wii's composite or component cables and set the Wii U resolution to 480.

 

[trumpet-205]

I use some of the emulators on the Wii in 240p on a 4:3 Sony CRT for an authentic look, can the Wii U in Wii mode do the same or does it not support 240p?

Doesn't matter if emulator is doing 240p, Wii itself will still stretch the image to 480i minimum.

If your CRT works at the moment there is nothing to worry about switching to Wii U.

 

[Hustle Kong]

Doesn't matter if emulator is doing 240p, Wii itself will still stretch the image to 480i minimum.

If your CRT works at the moment there is nothing to worry about switching to Wii U.

This is false information. The Wii CAN output to 240p through component, either through the emulators for which it is an option, or for a great many of the VC titles. That's why so many LCDs have trouble displaying them, is that they cannot correctly handle a 240p signal.

My TV and my upscaler both can tell the difference between 480i and 240p, and display the incoming signal information correctly.

I came in to see if the Wii U was also able to output in 240p, but I felt the need to correct this misinformation about the original wii.

 

[Obveron]

480i should look the same anyways. It's a pixel perfect 2X scale.

Remember old consoles output 240p by way of a stacking two fields on top of each other. This kept it compatible with the NTSC 480i standard.

An emulator running at 240p double strike should be scaled by the Wii or Vwii with no loss to 480i/p.

No different than a device that outputed in true 240p is displayed in 480 interlaced fields by your TV.

Whether you Wii converts it before output or it's handled directly by your TV it shouldn't matter the scale is using the same double strike method.

 

[Hielkenator]

Doesn't matter if emulator is doing 240p, Wii itself will still stretch the image to 480i minimum.

If your CRT works at the moment there is nothing to worry about switching to Wii U.

It depends.
If the resolution is outputted at 240p, you can enjoy the glorious scanlines on a crt.
If the wiiu puts out at 480i, no scanlines = horrible picture.

 

[tronic307]

Unlike Wii @480i setting with VC games, Wii U does not support 240p. I set it to 480i, played a VC game, and nope--plain old 480i.

 

[tmv_josue]

I thought the Wii's video outputs were these only:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Video_output
480i/p, 576i/p .

 

[the_randomizer]

Why would the Wii U support 240p?

 

[Jacobeian]

Even if you're playing a game at 240p, the Wii is upscaling it to 480i/p. It can't do 240p, neither can the Wii U. The closest thing you're going to get is if you listen to what's been said already and use the old Wii's composite or component cables and set the Wii U resolution to 480.

480i should look the same anyways. It's a pixel perfect 2X scale.

Remember old consoles output 240p by way of a stacking two fields on top of each other. This kept it compatible with the NTSC 480i standard.

An emulator running at 240p double strike should be scaled by the Wii or Vwii with no loss to 480i/p.

No different than a device that outputed in true 240p is displayed in 480 interlaced fields by your TV.

Whether you Wii converts it before output or it's handled directly by your TV it shouldn't matter the scale is using the same double strike method.

Doesn't matter if emulator is doing 240p, Wii itself will still stretch the image to 480i minimum.

If your CRT works at the moment there is nothing to worry about switching to Wii U.

that´s plain wrong, why so many people spread such false information ? better say nothing if you don't know what you are talking about

the wii can output 240p non interlaced signal and it's actually completely different from 480i interlaced or 480p progressive signal

upscaling 240 lines to 480 interlaced or progressive does NOT look the same as outputting directly 240 lines without interlacing which most emus can do on Wii or GameCube (and which is the biggest advantage of these emus if you still have a CRT), the most visible effect being true "scanlines" because the timing of those 240 lines get them displayed every two lines on your TV screen (if it supports those timings, lots of HDTV doesn't).

as for the original question, i am not sure but I guess 240p support was removed on WiiU since they upgraded the video out capacities, not sure why they initially had it on Gamecube and Wii, it's great for retrogaming but that's really a thing from the past... and TV supporting this are becoming rare

 

[tronic307]

I thought the Wii's video outputs were these only:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Video_output
480i/p, 576i/p .

No, the Wii (and GameCube) had 240p. The Wii U's lowest resolution is 480i and can only go below 480p with component cables.

Wii:

Wii U:

 

[the_randomizer]

No, the Wii (and GameCube) had 240p. The Wii U's lowest resolution is 480i and can only go below 480p with component cables.

Wii:
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Wii U:
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Not many LCD TVs support 240p resolution. I am impressed. What brand/model of TV is that?