Windows 8 Release to Manufacturer Build Leaks

[Rydian]

In all honesty its just Windows 7 with a tablet UI slapped over it. While I do think its a fantastic option for a tablet, its pretty much pointless for a desktop and is more of a hindrance than an upgrade

Windows 8 won't be on tablets, though. That's Windows RT, and it won't run Windows programs.

The mixups with AERO versus Metro availability and the fact that "Windows 8" is split into two OSes (desktop and tablet) means I'm taking most information I hear with a grain of salt, and I'm waiting for the actual release to even look at it.

After having been through XP, Vista, and 7's launch and seeing all the absolute bullshit people spout and repeat, I've learned it's best to wait until actual release so concrete info can be gathered.

 

[Kioku]

Yes I am running Desmume SVN r4352 and it use to run smooth and near perfect with the occasional skips in the audio which I fix easily, but windows 7 is like screw that mess, so I don't know what the problem is but I can't play Dragon Quest 9 on the Windows 7 using that emulator but I can on Windows 8 just fine using that emulator! Everything from program installs to uninstalls to running them everything is better, smoother and faster allot faster with Windows 8!

That's strange. Maybe because I'm using NullDC 1.6. I wish there was more game compatibility videos.
Only found this.

[media]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nK8gPZqa8kw[/media]

Maybe you should make one.

Seems like compatibility problems, then again it is before the release preview. I game just fine on W8.

 

[FAST6191]

I would be a bit more interested in a leak of windows 8 server or whatever it will eventually be called (edit apparently it is just Windows server 2012) as I hear there are some big changes for the better and probably the only compelling reason to consider sticking with windows for most of my would be clients. As for windows 8... what has been seen far is not really for me although dropping down to a proper UI is doable (and probably all but mandatory for those wishing to "get stuff done") although it might be worth a look at this version.

Windows 8 running leaner than 7... a novel idea especially considering 7 was actually pretty good about most things for even a basic consumer PC, I am wondering how much of that might be driver and stock service related though vs a properly configured system (in the end even Vista could be punched into order).

 

[aireca]

All that complains people have, has been already "fixed" with mods, even eliminate that ugly metro tablet style start, start directly to explorer, add a normal start button, etc... you can customize all win 8 with unnoficial patches off course, "normal" people will complain, as always...., but nothing really stops you from modding windows

 

[Jamstruth]

All that complains people have, has been already "fixed" with mods, even eliminate that ugly metro tablet style start, start directly to explorer, add a normal start button, etc... you can customize all win 8 with unnoficial patches off course, "normal" people will complain, as always...., but nothing really stops you from modding windows

I say we can still complain. The vanilla build is what will be installed in offices etc. For businesses I see no advantage to the touch interface. Its too simple for proper computing.
I know desktop is still available but what gets to me is the break in workflow going into the tablet UI gives. It makes it annoying to launch to simplest things on a desktop e.g. Control Panel.

 

[aireca]

^ hahaha, i work into air conditioner world (mostly factorys) & i know places where there is still people working with windows 98 xD

 

[Rydian]

Windows 8 running leaner than 7... a novel idea especially considering 7 was actually pretty good about most things for even a basic consumer PC, I am wondering how much of that might be driver and stock service related though vs a properly configured system (in the end even Vista could be punched into order).

What about dropping backwards compatibility and/or support for legacy hardware?

 

[Deleted User]

im on win 8 dev preview and it sometimes just gives me a green screen when i turn it on (almost everytime) so im going back to win 7......

 

[raulpica]

Going to try it as soon as a Win8 Pro RTM surfaces up. There are SO many contrasting opinions that I must try it for myself to decide.

EDIT: Windows-to-go intrigues me massively. Looks like I'll give the Enterprise version a spin too.

 

[Smuff]

^ hahaha, i work into air conditioner world (mostly factorys) & i know places where there is still people working with windows 98 xD

Same here (the win98 bit that is, not the air con).
Very few people can be arsed to upgrade OS on a working laser installation - too much aggro. Our software would probably flip out if you tried to run it with anything higher than XP

 

[Foxi4]

In all honesty its just Windows 7 with a tablet UI slapped over it. While I do think its a fantastic option for a tablet, its pretty much pointless for a desktop and is more of a hindrance than an upgrade.

Windows 8‘s Metro interface may be controversial, but it looks like few PC users will complain about the new operating system’s performance. The PCWorld Labs put the Consumer Preview of Windows 8 through a battery of tests and found it generally faster--sometimes a lot faster--than Windows 7.

We tested using our WorldBench 7 tests, performed on the Labs' baseline system, which is built around a 3.3GHz Intel Core i5-2500K processor. That CPU is coupled with 8GB of DDR3 RAM clocked at 1333MHz, a 1TB 7200-rpm hard drive, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti graphics card. (...) We loaded the Consumer Preview of Windows 8 on the system, and compared our results with the numbers we already had for the same system running Windows 7.

Windows 8 ran through WorldBench 7, our comprehensive performance benchmark, 14 percent faster than Windows 7. Generally, any difference of 5 percent or more on WorldBench is noticeable (...) If you hate waiting for your PC to get going, you should like Windows 8. Our system started up at least 35 percent faster running Windows 8 than it did while running Windows 7. Under Windows 7, our average startup time was 56.2 seconds. Under Windows 8, that time dropped to 36.8 seconds (...)

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We can draw some interesting conclusions from these benchmark results. The first and most obvious is that boot times have been cut down further, and Microsoft has managed to shave another second off the time it takes to start up the test system. Microsoft promised to slash boot times, and it seems that the promise has been delivered. (...) It usually takes AMD and NVIDIA some time to optimize and perfect their drivers for a new operating system, with drivers having to mature for several months before we see similar performance between the new operating system and the old one. This time around it seems that things have settled down quickly and that we're seeing performance that is on par with a mature operating system. (...) We're also seeing quite an improvement when it comes to audio and video transcoding. This is something I've come to expect from betas of Windows operating systems. It's an area that Microsoft seems to put effort into improving, and that trend continues with Windows 8.

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Looks like quite the upgrade to me.

 

[shakirmoledina]

its fantastic W8. try it but i suggest the full version and not be hasty with leaked versions.

its faster, cleaner, much better looking (nice colors), more informative
i just feel the start menu is still very much needed

 

[jalaneme]

People must be on drugs if they think windows 8 is better than 7 version 8 breaks a lot of pc games, why would you DOWNGRADE to a tablet ui? Its pointless, microsoft don't give us a choice and shove this horrible os down our throats, faster? Cleaner? Do you work for microsoft or something? How can a dumbed down os be faster when its useless for everything? If you are a casual user who just plays facebook games all day then windows 8 is for you as you don't need to do anything else, for serious pc related stuff windows 8 is useless.

 

[Maz7006]

As far as i can tell you can disable all the Metro stuff right ?

 

[Damian666]

agreed, windows 8 is gonna be the first windows version im not upgrading too, fugly as hell.

first they spend years perfecting a GUI, to throw it away in 1 go? those guys are on drugs man... xd

 

[Foxi4]

People must be on drugs if they think windows 8 is better than 7 version 8 breaks a lot of pc games, why would you DOWNGRADE to a tablet ui? Its pointless, microsoft don't give us a choice and shove this horrible os down our throats, faster? Cleaner? Do you work for microsoft or something? How can a dumbed down os be faster when its useless for everything? If you are a casual user who just plays facebook games all day then windows 8 is for you as you don't need to do anything else, for serious pc related stuff windows 8 is useless.

How is it "dumbed-down" or in any way more limited then Windows 7 when it has all the functions Windows 7 has plus the MetroUI plus tidier boot routines plus slightly better overall performance? It doesn't "break games" - it just doesn't have proper drivers yet because, suprise, suprise, it's not out yet.

Either show some benchmarks that prove your little theory or shush because you're simply wrong, and it doesn't take "working for Microsoft" to realize that. By the way, nobody's shoving anything down your throat - you don't have to buy the OS.

As far as i can tell you can disable all the Metro stuff right ?

You can't. It's an integral part of the system now that will also recieve separate a'la "Gadgets" applications, shared between the Pro and the RT editions of the system.

I wouldn't mind having the Start Orb back where it was, but that can be fixed with Start8 and other programs like it. Overall, it's an upgrade and it's worth considering.

 

[boombox]

Isn't 8 more tablet friendly rather than PC oriented? I think I'd rather stick to Windows 7, unless there's something incredibly new and amazing and I must have it! haha

 

[Adr990]

Seriously, people who post "Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with Metro Interface nothing special, just added support for touchscreens" or such things really need to learn and look up information about stuff like a new OS before complaining about it.

It has ready to use improved USB 3.0 drivers, also a way better usage of drivers and applications of Printers etc.
ISO mounting build in.
Another kind of File History
New kind of file moving and copying
hardware audio acceleration
Hyper-V

I probably have forgotten quite a few things, but these things impressed me most..

It's faster than previous Windows OS's.
And... it has DirectX 11.1 (Allthough.. OpenGL beats DirectX at all sides)

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And yes, you can disable Metro.

Windows 8 is gonna be installed on my new PC build anytime soon.
For only already the above reasons.

 

[Rydian]

People must be on drugs if they think windows 8 is better than 7 version 8 breaks a lot of pc games

Just because it works on Windows 7 doesn't mean it was coded correctly. Look at all the games still being sold that don't even adhere to the user/admin rights system implemented in Windows XP. Take decades of lazy coding and slap rootkit DRM on top of that, and you have some games that break with every windows version because they're fucked up.

Then, on the other hand, you have things that were coded correctly and continue to work years after release. Take Diablo 2 for example. It's 12 years old, but it runs even on Windows 8.

 

[Foxi4]

And yes, you can disable Metro.

You cannot disable Metro - it was only possible in the closed Developer Preview via a registery key modification, but from Consumer Preview onwards the UI is an integral part of the system itself and cannot be removed or turned off. To my knowledge, Microsoft already adressed the issue by simply stating that "the world goes forward and so does Windows - farewell Start Menu, welcome Metro". You can re-implement the Start Menu by installing third-party applications, but you cannot disable Metro.

first they spend years perfecting a GUI, to throw it away in 1 go? those guys are on drugs man... xd

I'm pretty sure that a couple years back people said the same thing about the Command Line and they somehow got used to the Desktop.