Hacking WiiU hack: what if the gamepad is the castle?

[n3ckr0sys]

Hello

Most of you outthere probably will hang me for posting this, but I like to think out of the box:

What if the keys required to decrypt are located in the gamepad, instead of the console?

What if we've been looking for them in the wrong place?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful with no one, it's just an opinion, because I've been following the scene progress on the WiiU, and nobody though about it.

I hope somebody thinks like me, since the working process of the WiiU is quite different.

 

[Relys]

Common keys are located in the one time programmable area accessible from the dedicated ARM security processor.

 

[n3ckr0sys]

I just say this because the way the console works (according to all I've been reading in the last months) is very different to what one would think normally.

 

[rctgamer3]

What if the keys required to decrypt are located in the gamepad, instead of the console?

First of all, it's far fetched. How would that even work? The WiiU has support for multiple GamePads, but Nintendo doesn't sell them and no games support multiple GamePads yet. According to your logic, you would now have two sets of keys.

The only stuff that are in a GamePad are a screen, a small storage chip (read: Quick Start menu), buttons (and NFC/IR) and the chip used to decode the 5GHz video signal.
Link

Common keys are located in the one time programmable area accessible from the dedicated ARM security processor.

This.

 

[n3ckr0sys]

"but Nintendo doesn't sell them and no games support multiple GamePads yet."

Exactly!

How big could be a Key, in terms of bytes? Again, I'm just thinking out of the box, not trying to offend anyone.

 

[Blebleman]

The problem, friend, is that we KNOW where the keys are. We just can't access them.

 

[yusuo]

Nice idea but you're theory is a little far fetched, and can I just say you look like a young version of carlton from fresh prince of bel air

 

[GorTesK]

Hello

Most of you outthere probably will hang me for posting this, but I like to think out of the box:

What if the keys required to decrypt are located in the gamepad, instead of the console?

What if we've been looking for them in the wrong place?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful with no one, it's just an opinion, because I've been following the scene progress on the WiiU, and nobody though about it.

I hope somebody thinks like me, since the working process of the WiiU is quite different.

nope

 

[Arras]

How would that even work? Either the key would have to be send wirelessly to the console every time (lol security disaster) or the gamepad will have to do all the decrypting, and I doubt it has the processing power for that.

 

[Duo8]

How big could be a Key, in terms of bytes? Again, I'm just thinking out of the box, not trying to offend anyone.

Well I'm assuming 256 bits.
However it's already known where the keys are. Streaming the keys like that is also rather insecure.

 

[EmceeKerser]

"but Nintendo doesn't sell them and no games support multiple GamePads yet."

Exactly!

Flawless logic. Gamepad keys confirmed

 

[gamesquest1]

Quick test. Turn on wiiu with no gamepad on

Still boots myth busted

 

[n3ckr0sys]

Nice idea but you're theory is a little far fetched, and can I just say you look like a young version of carlton from fresh prince of bel air

Jajajajajajajaja!

Well guys, as I stated before, I've been reading about it before, and nobody came up with that idea. I though that would be of some help.

 

[GorTesK]

nobody came up with that idea

because it's simply wrong

 

[gamesquest1]

Has anyone checked if they are in the back of the manual . thats where codes are normally wrote

 

[dekuleon]

Nonsense at all

 

[naxil]

sorry but.. the gamepad is higlhy investigated.. http://libdrc.org/

all about the gamepad reverse.. http://libdrc.org/docs/re/index.html

 

[tbb043]

Disconnect the battery in the gamepad and the system and games still work (obviously you then need to use an alternate controller and a game that supports more than just the gamepad). Clearly no needed keys in there.

 

[endoverend]

Has anyone checked if they are in the back of the manual . thats where codes are normally wrote

XD

 

[FireGrey]

has anyone tried the konami code?
nobody has thought of that so it might help