Why do people say my generation sucks ass?

[AkikoKumagara]

never trust anybody who says the common oxymoron of "mastering" and "software" in a sentence.

if your music is created digitally and then distributed exclusively digitally, then there's nothing to master. the format is the same. and as for compression/limiting, i hear that putting compression on the master bus is pretty popular these days

edit: to be clear, i mean digital distribution as in via the Internet. CD of course is technically mastering, given that the recording may have to be optimised to account for the flaws of CD audio

I strongly disagree with this. There's a lot more nuance to the process, and you can tell the difference between something that's mastered vs. something that's not, assuming you're not listening to a 128kbps mp3 that's been re-encoded twelve times over to the point it no longer sounds like the source anyway.

This is what izotope defines mastering as, and it's a rather important step in production that can take something that sounds like a demo to something that sounds finished. Just recording something with half a dozen tracks and releasing with the bare minimum (basic mixing steps such as levels, basic EQ, etc.) is often not enough.

Unless you're not referring to recorded instruments (which I was), I can't understand this argument at all.

 

[Rolfie]

I strongly disagree with this. There's a lot more nuance to the process, and you can tell the difference between something that's mastered vs. something that's not, assuming you're not listening to a 128kbps mp3 that's been re-encoded twelve times over to the point it no longer sounds like the source anyway.

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This is what izotope defines mastering as, and it's a rather important step in production that can take something that sounds like a demo to something that sounds finished. Just recording something with half a dozen tracks and releasing with the bare minimum (basic mixing steps such as levels, basic EQ, etc.) is often not enough.

Unless you're not referring to recorded instruments (which I was), I can't understand this argument at all.

mastering has become extremely over-complicated. if your mix sounds like a demo, it's going to remain a demo. and mastering can't help that.

plus, i can't be convinced that Izotope is not trying to make their products sound good with such a description of mastering either, because that's exactly what articles about audio engineering written by plugin companies are about.
with vinyl, you need to master because otherwise it isn't going to sound very good. but if everything is digital, then the mix is basically the entire story.

ultimately, i think if mastering is supposed to effect a track in such a large way, then engineers don't know how to mix anymore.

 

[The Catboy]

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[mikefor20]

mastering has become extremely over-complicated. if your mix sounds like a demo, it's going to remain a demo. and mastering can't help that.

plus, i can't be convinced that Izotope is not trying to make their products sound good with such a description of mastering either, because that's exactly what articles about audio engineering written by plugin companies are about.
with vinyl, you need to master because otherwise it isn't going to sound very good. but if everything is digital, then the mix is basically the entire story.

ultimately, i think if mastering is supposed to effect a track in such a large way, then engineers don't know how to mix anymore.

That is over simplified and incomplete. Semantics . Whatever, I have been making music for 30 years now. My techniques have eveolved with the times but sometimes my language shows my age. That's about as important to me as EmuNAND vs EmuMMC.. more important that imaginary pronouns though so there is that. If you want to discuss music production and songwriting I'm game.

And you can clean up a demo now a days. Hell, listen to Now and then. It took AI but those vocals are clear.

 

[Xdqwerty]

why are we talking about music now?

 

[mikefor20]

why are we talking about music now?

It's more interesting than the topic and it's well established gen y z and whatever sucks

Pm me for more music talk. I don't want the thread getting nuked.

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** A Troll

 

[x65943]

Statistically the number of individuals polled who say they have had and actively engage in anal sex increases every year

Gen Z polls the highest

There is no direct research showing how rim job (sucking ass) rates have increased over time, but we do know that 1/4 people who say they engage in anal sex regularly also perform rim jobs (or suck ass)

In fact those who’ve had anal sex and practice analingus (rim job, sucking ass) do it quite often, roughly 7 times giving and 5 times receiving in the last month when polled

Therefore it seems objectively gen Z sucks ass the most

And now you know

 

[Xdqwerty]

If the world is better without me, that means i should commit suicide, even though i dont want to do that

 

[x65943]

If the world is better without me, that means i should commit suicide, even though i dont want to do that

There is no such thing as good or bad

There is no such thing as negative or positive

These are all subjective - and besides no matter what we all do the world will be engulfed by the sun one day and eventually the universe will experience heat death

Nothing matters so do what you want and have fun - no reason to speed up death when it's inevitable anyway

 

[Veho]

If the world is better without me,

I don't know what you do in your free time, kick puppies or hunt hobos for sport, but the world isn't any worse on account of you sucking ass, nor would it be better without the ass-succ. Do no harm and take no shit and everything else is nobody's business but your own.



And on the topic of sucking ass...

 

[CoolMe]

If the world is better without me, that means i should commit suicide, even though i dont want to do that

All 'cause your generation sucks ass? Nah, not worth it

 

[Hayato213]

All 'cause your generation sucks ass? Nah, not worth it

His generation does suck.

 

[Veho]

His generation does suck.

Ah, "kids these days", the eternal whinge.

 

[x65943]

Ah, "kids these days", the eternal whinge.

I don't know about you but I see sucking as a positive aspect of the Gen Z crowd

 

[CoolMe]

I don't know about you but I see sucking as a positive aspect of the Gen Z crowd

I mean since they're sucking anyways, they might as well go full throttle with it, amirite?

 

[Veho]

I don't know about you but I see sucking as a positive aspect of the Gen Z crowd

Indeed. People forget how beneficial, nay, crucial suction is to the whole process.

I blame porn.

I mean since they're sucking anyways, they might as well go full throttle with it, amirite?

Full throat-le?

 

[BakerMan]

Full throat-le?

shut your goofy ahh up

 

[Veho]

 

[Noctosphere]

I don't know who you are, but

 

[SylverReZ]

Statistically the number of individuals polled who say they have had and actively engage in anal sex increases every year

Gen Z polls the highest

There is no direct research showing how rim job (sucking ass) rates have increased over time, but we do know that 1/4 people who say they engage in anal sex regularly also perform rim jobs (or suck ass)

In fact those who’ve had anal sex and practice analingus (rim job, sucking ass) do it quite often, roughly 7 times giving and 5 times receiving in the last month when polled

Therefore it seems objectively gen Z sucks ass the most

And now you know

That's an interesting discovery.