WARNING: Ban wave has started, STAY AWAY FROM LIVE!

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 - Games & Content' started by War, Oct 30, 2009.

Oct 30, 2009
  1. War
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    I'll see if I can find more info on this matter. I know MS does this about once a year or so, but I dunno how long they last or how to evade them... I would assume just stay disconnected from Live until further announcements. [​IMG]
     


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    I'm not going on live for a while anyway. Going to wait for MW2.
     
  3. Joe88

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    so can we still go on if we play legit retail games not burnt?
     
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    I doubt you'll get banned from playing a retail game.
     
  5. War
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    I think they're probably doing this ban wave in preparation for MW2/L4D2 :
     
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    I just hope it's all a coincidence.

    I want to play some Call of Duty 4. [​IMG]
     
  7. Gaisuto

    Former Staff Gaisuto Lose 2 Levels.

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    It's definitely true. While I can't speak for myself, as my 360's currently gutted, I'm seeing people all over the place getting banned with no real connection determined.

    I'm seeing people banned who have never played a game early before, and I'm seeing people who played Brutal Legend and Borderlands a week early without getting hit.
     
  8. quepaso

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    I just checked, a-ok here!

    Never played a early release online, always wait a week or so go burn after release in stores, abgx360 every release, etc. Patience people! *snip
     
  9. War
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    Not to be overly negative or anything, but just because you're "a-ok" now doesn't mean you will be later. These ban waves usually go on for a few days/weeks, so you're still at risk :|
     
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    I know how this stuff works, ive had a flashed 360 since the beginning of the flashing, i bought my first 360 at launch.
     
  11. Lakerfanalways

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    I just checked my XBOX, so far so good. I don't have XBOX Live, but I do have a silver account there(am I still at risk?) also, right now I am on firmware 1.51, if I update to 1.61 am I putting myself at higher risk of being banned when I play a game? I never play games til they have been officially released and have been verified through abgx
     
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    Member R2DJ GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    Technically, you have a Live account. It's still Live...

    Any modded console is at risk of getting hit by the hammer.
     
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    So updating the firmware, its the same risk right? And what exactly does it mean being banned..does the xbox no longer work, or does it mean I cant update games when I put them in the xbox?
     
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    doesn't really concern me. I do my online play with PS3 now. but it's gonna be bad if I can't boot backups
     
  15. Lakerfanalways

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    Is that what happens when you get banned..you can no longer play game that you have burned? Just want to get an idea what banned means..I have not been banned but I want to know what I would be dealing with if I ever was
     
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    You just can't do anything involving online any more. No online play, no Xbox Live Marketplace downloads... You'd still be able to play games just fine.
     
  17. War
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    From what I understand, there are 2 types of bans - console ban and account ban.

    If your Xbox Live account is banned, you cannot sign in to Xbox Live using that account. You can still play your games offline using that account, or you can simply make a new account on that console and play online. You will not be able to sign in to Xbox Live, play online with other people, or basically do anything with that banned account.

    If your CONSOLE is banned from Xbox Live, you cannot go on Xbox Live at all using that console. It doesn't matter if you make a new account or not. This means you cannot play games online, download updates, play XBLA games, etc. You CAN still play games offline, though. The "advantage" of this type of ban is that your Xbox Live account itself doesn't get banned, which means that if you get a new Xbox 360, you will be able to go on to your old account and use it online.

    Regardless of which type of ban you get, you will still be able to play any and all Xbox 360 games.
     
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    thanks..so updating the firmware to 1.61 doesn't increase my risk of being banned right..its the same risk like it always has been right? Also, I am wondering if I should burn a few of the wave games I have on my computer right now or wait til abgx comes out with their updated version..the reason why I ask is because yesterday I used abgx to scan Tekken 6 and I got this message..


    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    \\//\\//\\//\\//\\/?\\//\ \ \/ /?????????\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\
    //\\//\\//\\//\???\???\???/ /\ \ ?????? ?//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//
    ??????????????????????????????????????????v1.0.1???????[http://abgx360.net]????
    ???
    Checking for updates to GameNameLookup.csv and abgx360.dat...
    Server file GameNameLookup.csv no newer than local file - not retrieving
    Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving

    C:\Users\Lakerfanalways\Desktop\Tekken 6 XBOX 360\dgr-tkn6.dvd is valid

    Checking Game
    ISO: "C:\Users\Lakerfanalways\Desktop\Tekken 6 XBOX 360\dgr-tkn6.iso"
    Size: 7572881408 bytes (normal size)
    Files in ISO: 44, Folders in ISO: 0
    Total bytes used: 7078935580 (96.99%)
    Game appears to have random padding

    Checking default.xex
    Original PE Filename: 360.exe
    Original PE Timestamp: 2009/09/23 13:26:54
    Game Name: TEKKEN 6
    Developer: NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
    Publisher: NBGA/NBGE
    Genre: Game - Fighting
    Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore
    XEX CRC = 2382B6C7
    XEX Media ID: 76FEB70D9A7616F3FADCF177-2087A9ED

    Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF
    Region Free!

    Checking SS
    Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/24 00:00:00
    Timestamp of Mastering: 2009/09/26 02:33:35
    SS CRC = B16FFF7B (RawSS = 4BE970EC)
    SS Media ID: 76FEB70D9A7616F3FADCF177-2087A9ED (matches game)
    SS looks valid

    Checking DMI
    Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/09/24 00:00:00 (matches SS)
    DMI CRC = 70B77FEF
    DMI Media ID: 76FEB70D9A7616F3FADCF177-2087A9ED (matches game)
    DMI looks valid

    Checking PFI
    PFI CRC = 05C6C409
    PFI does not match known data (could be corrupt or a new wave not seen before)
    Displaying suspicious PFI in hex and ascii:

    OFFSET 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
    0x0000 01 02 31 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF DF 00 03 AD 7F 1 . ...? ?. ¡
    0x0010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    *


    Video partition found
    Checking Video padding... Video is zero padded
    Video CRC = 1914211B (V0 = 29D07E66, V1 = EAE76B94)
    Video partition does not match known data but neither did PFI

    Stealth status is uncertain


    Starting Verification
    Looking for B16FFF7B2382B6C7.ini in the online verified database
    Server file B16FFF7B2382B6C7.ini no newer than local file - not retrieving

    Using B16FFF7B2382B6C7.ini (337 bytes)
    Video CRC matches
    V0 CRC matches
    V1 CRC matches
    PFI CRC matches
    DMI CRC matches
    SS CRC matches
    Xex CRC matches

    Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel)
    Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total
    Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries
    100% 42:59 42:59 0:00 2.7 MB/s 1.9 MB/s

    AnyDVD style corruption was not detected
    Game CRC = 243AD229 (matches)

    All CRCs match
    Verification was successful, Stealth passed!

    Cannot check SplitVid due to invalid or uncertain PFI/Video

    Press any key to exit . . .


    So those errors highlighted in bold all have to do with wave 4 right and have nothing to do with playing the actual game?
     
  19. War
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    You have the same chances of getting banned regardless of what firmware you use.

    As for the Tekken thing, I'm sure it's fine if you burn it, but if you want to be 100% sure you may want to wait for the new version of abgx. Its probably giving you that error because the game is wave 4 or maybe it's not in the abgx database yet. I've been away from the 360 scene for a while so I'm not completely sure.
     
  20. FAST6191

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    There is a third type where your 360's signing privileges are revoked, this is usually reserved for would be save hackers* though. I tried to dig up the link but could not find it with a quick search.

    *possibly for those who up their gamerscore as well. Snide remark because I can, I will spare a discussion on the merits of gamerscore as my opinions are known to all that care to find them but I can not possibly think of a more stupid/risky use of such things.

    Anyhow thanks for the news, when I get around to posting up another 360 release I will link back here.

    Oh and there is supposedly a p2p version of Modern Warfare 2 doing the rounds (thanks to luke_c on IRC for the heads up today), leave it the hell alone people unless you can argue otherwise:
    supposed ABGX360 screenshot (SS, DMI, PFI all missing):
    http://i33.tinypic.com/2nkdwg.png


    edit: @Lakerfanalways clue is in the message: PFI does not match known data (could be corrupt or a new wave not seen before)
    ABGX360 needs an update for wave 4 but they were waiting to find the cutoff date among other things before doing it (there was a big post on the frontpage of their site a few days back).
     

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