[Translation] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D

LysergCooltyp · Oct 26, 2016

It still produces the diamond slime. The SS* doesn't influence breeding.

Wooshy · Oct 26, 2016

LysergCooltyp said:
Darn, I thought it was just another generic gate and didn't bother entering yet. Thanks!

they dont really give that much experience, one king slime gives 38k or something like that.
Sure if you beat 3 in one fight then you got your 100k+

Anyway, i cant figure out how to get a gem slime for the portal of the old guy xD

LysergCooltyp · Oct 26, 2016

Wooshy said:
they dont really give that much experience, one king slime gives 38k or something like that.
Sure if you beat 3 in one fight then you got your 100k+

Anyway, i cant figure out how to get a gem slime for the portal of the old guy xD

Sure, one doesn't give much but it adds up. Once you run out of time you should have enough exp to hatch the egg.

You can get it as reward for turning in medals.

Helix Fossil · Oct 26, 2016

Wooshy said:
they dont really give that much experience, one king slime gives 38k or something like that.
Sure if you beat 3 in one fight then you got your 100k+

Anyway, i cant figure out how to get a gem slime for the portal of the old guy xD

If you beat 3 in one fight using only 1 monster you get around 350k exp, one of the highest amounts in the game. You can hatch a Rainbow Egg in only 3 fights using this method.

Zaraf · Oct 28, 2016

So once you've acquired at least 300 monsters, the locked door in the shed on the Monster Farm opens up and allows you to access the Chance Gate. It's a cool place with only a single map layout for every floor, the map that you had during the tutorial when you enter the first gate (starting at the top and sliding down a long log).

This gate is populated only by monsters you've already acquired, even ones that you never met, but instead bred.

Now when you first enter it, you have to pay 10,000G to access 30 floors. There are floors 31-35 that contain S rank monsters, and 36-40 that contain SS rank monsters, but I have no idea how to access them.

Here is a Japanese wiki link about the gate, but I can't figure out what it's trying to say regarding the floor limit upgrading.

http://game-cap.com/terry3ds/chart/035.html

Does anyone know how to get to the 35 and 40 floor limits?

Youkai · Oct 28, 2016

Zaraf said:
So once you've acquired at least 300 monsters, the locked door in the shed on the Monster Farm opens up and allows you to access the Chance Gate. It's a cool place with only a single map layout for every floor, the map that you had during the tutorial when you enter the first gate (starting at the top and sliding down a long log).

This gate is populated only by monsters you've already acquired, even ones that you never met, but instead bred.

Now when you first enter it, you have to pay 10,000G to access 30 floors. There are floors 31-35 that contain S rank monsters, and 36-40 that contain SS rank monsters, but I have no idea how to access them.

Here is a Japanese wiki link about the gate, but I can't figure out what it's trying to say regarding the floor limit upgrading.

http://game-cap.com/terry3ds/chart/035.html

Does anyone know how to get to the 35 and 40 floor limits?

Seems you need to pay more Gold ... with 10.000 you can go up to level 30 for 50.000 to 35 and for 100.000 to 40

rikudawn · Oct 28, 2016

This is the only Dragon Quest game I've played. I remember when I was a kid, I was at a summer camp and apparently one of the other kids there lost his copy and a counselor found and just gave it to me cause I had a Game Boy. Feel bad for the kid who lost it tho.

Clydefrosch · Oct 28, 2016

Zaraf said:
So once you've acquired at least 300 monsters, the locked door in the shed on the Monster Farm opens up and allows you to access the Chance Gate. It's a cool place with only a single map layout for every floor, the map that you had during the tutorial when you enter the first gate (starting at the top and sliding down a long log).

This gate is populated only by monsters you've already acquired, even ones that you never met, but instead bred.

Now when you first enter it, you have to pay 10,000G to access 30 floors. There are floors 31-35 that contain S rank monsters, and 36-40 that contain SS rank monsters, but I have no idea how to access them.

Here is a Japanese wiki link about the gate, but I can't figure out what it's trying to say regarding the floor limit upgrading.

http://game-cap.com/terry3ds/chart/035.html

Does anyone know how to get to the 35 and 40 floor limits?

i have a theory its linked to either your monster total or the number of SS rank monsters you have. either way, more gives you more floors. i've had the gate open since before fighting milly. and i still couldn't enter the last floors after i finished the storyline, so its not story related at least.

also, finally got the diamond slime... kinda regret losing my gemslime though. diamonds mp costs are absurd, even with magic regeneration.

Xenosaiga · Oct 28, 2016

Clydefrosch said:
i have a theory its linked to either your monster total or the number of SS rank monsters you have. either way, more gives you more floors. i've had the gate open since before fighting milly. and i still couldn't enter the last floors after i finished the storyline, so its not story related at least.

also, finally got the diamond slime... kinda regret losing my gemslime though. diamonds mp costs are absurd, even with magic regeneration.

I'm currently working on Diamond slime. Will eventually get it. Actually just now getting all the base monsters together. Gonna make sure they appear in the Chance gate. That way I don't have to hunt down ridiculous amounts in other gates. And is it just me or are monsters a whole lot easier to scout in the chance gate?

Xenosaiga · Oct 29, 2016

Have an idea about the chance gate. How many of the queens requests have you done?
@Zaraf @Clydefrosch

Zaraf · Oct 29, 2016

Xenosaiga said:
Have an idea about the chance gate. How many of the queens requests have you done?
@Zaraf @Clydefrosch

All of them

And on that note, I noticed that when I caught a bunch more, he opened up 35 floors. So the guy that said you need 30 S rank monsters to open up 35, and 30 SS rank monsters to open up 40 was correct.

HellaJvke · Oct 29, 2016

Did anyone beat the post game? after the starry tournament i found the lvl curve too steep to continue.
-i wasnt using any cheats so my monsters were mostly C rank
from the posts above you all have some amazing monsters on your team and unlocked some rare gates.

anyone know how to get that annying old man to move? his son jokes about his daughter marrying you... but i couldnt figure out what todo next

Xenosaiga · Oct 29, 2016

HellaJvke said:
Did anyone beat the post game? after the starry tournament i found the lvl curve too steep to continue.
-i wasnt using any cheats so my monsters were mostly C rank
from the posts above you all have some amazing monsters on your team and unlocked some rare gates.

anyone know how to get that annying old man to move? his son jokes about his daughter marrying you... but i couldnt figure out what todo next

Read a book. No joke. Read the book on the bookshelf. And find her name. And then talk to her and tell her name.

That's just the first part. Grandpa will have a request for you too.

LysergCooltyp · Oct 29, 2016

HellaJvke said:
Did anyone beat the post game? after the starry tournament i found the lvl curve too steep to continue.
-i wasnt using any cheats so my monsters were mostly C rank

With the exception of the final boss and maybe Estark or the liondude if you use the wrong tactic, the difficulty barely increases.

Still using C ranked monsters while it's ridiculously easy to breed a couple of A rank monsters that get you through the whole game is pure madness.

With the awful growth rates, traits and skillsets matter so get a bit of balance across the board and facedunk those gates!

Clydefrosch · Oct 29, 2016

Xenosaiga said:
I'm currently working on Diamond slime. Will eventually get it. Actually just now getting all the base monsters together. Gonna make sure they appear in the Chance gate. That way I don't have to hunt down ridiculous amounts in other gates. And is it just me or are monsters a whole lot easier to scout in the chance gate?

yes, at least for anything up to s rank and for metal type monsters.
however, ss monsters and large monsters still feel mostly like you're scouting from a scout inside a gate.

LysergCooltyp said:
With the exception of the final boss and maybe Estark or the liondude if you use the wrong tactic, the difficulty barely increases.

Still using C ranked monsters while it's ridiculously easy to breed a couple of A rank monsters that get you through the whole game is pure madness.

With the awful growth rates, traits and skillsets matter so get a bit of balance across the board and facedunk those gates!

well thats not true. at lest veera and argos made for some much stronger gate bosses than anything before.
and of course, if you, as the game kinda wants you too, get to a rank monsters quickly and then beyond, the difficulty of course stays pretty even.

and you at least somewhat have to know what you're doing to get a rank monsters quickly. personally, i too spend most of the early game gates finding barely a way to rank up, even though i scouted pretty much every monster inside.

that being said, at the point in the game where @HellaJvke is, there's already wild a rank monsters running around in the gates, so scout and breed off of those to get more a rank things. and dont be afraid to lose your strong monsters either. just breed them into something stronger one or two at a time so your other strong monsters can help with the leveling a bit, the repeat

Xenosaiga said:
Have an idea about the chance gate. How many of the queens requests have you done?
@Zaraf @Clydefrosch

all up to the neneslime one. i dont have a neneslime, let alone 4

Xenosaiga · Oct 29, 2016

@Clydefrosch I seem to be at a loss on how to make a Gem slime... I already have my double breed darkonium slime. And I have the gem slime from monster medals. Just need one more. I already have the double breed grandpa slime. And the site says I need two gold Golums but that doesn't work. Please advise.

Clydefrosch · Oct 29, 2016

Xenosaiga said:
@Clydefrosch I seem to be at a loss on how to make a Gem slime... I already have my double breed darkonium slime. And I have the gem slime from monster medals. Just need one more. I already have the double breed grandpa slime. And the site says I need two gold Golums but that doesn't work. Please advise.

what you need are two balhibs. those monsters were called gold golem back in the original gbc game
http://dragonquest.wikia.com/wiki/Balhib
to breed those, you need either magmalice x magmalice + firnfiend x firnfiend or golem x golem + gold golem x gold gole

Xenosaiga · Oct 29, 2016

Clydefrosch said:
what you need are two balhibs. those monsters were called gold golem back in the original gbc game
http://dragonquest.wikia.com/wiki/Balhib
to breed those, you need either magmalice x magmalice + firnfiend x firnfiend or golem x golem + gold golem x gold gole

Yeah. I figured that out. Just breed my two gems together.

Talk about burning through nearly 300k real quick plus about 20 metal tickets.

LysergCooltyp · Oct 29, 2016

Clydefrosch said:
well thats not true. at lest veera and argos made for some much stronger gate bosses than anything before.
and of course, if you, as the game kinda wants you too, get to a rank monsters quickly and then beyond, the difficulty of course stays pretty even.

and you at least somewhat have to know what you're doing to get a rank monsters quickly. personally

Eh, they didn't feel any different to me. Gotta disagree. Every boss has an exploitable weakness or could be bruteforced if weaker.

A decent healer/mage hybrid that could still hit Veera while she was stealthed and regenerated at least as much mana as he consumed and simply sealing Argos magic was enough to not even bother with individual commands because the ai is good enough at deciding.

Had zero clue what I was doing and ended up with various rank A monsters long before tackling any proper tournament ranks while focusing on online fights to see what other people use. Random breeding was successful for.

The only monsters I actually actively aimed for were the Prism Peacock which can easily be combined with monsters prior to challenging hacksaurus and yields a decent S rank monster without relying on any breeding knowledge beyond 'two coloured birds result in a rainbow one' and the Ewwnicorn which is A rank and anyone should easily stumple upon by breeding a couple of beast monsters.

That's a hybrid and a caster whom are enough to get you through everything if paired with any other monsters that don't drop dead after being glared at once.

Building a foundation for a higher ranked monster through the egg you get shortly after starting the game also helps.

By the time he reached the postgame he also should have uber mage on his caster, uber healer on his healer and whatever physical skills he likes on his fast/hard hitting monsters with optional uber helper and boosting skills across the board.

So no, if you just experiment a bit with various skillsets and unique monster traits then by no means should you struggle!

Clydefrosch · Oct 29, 2016

LysergCooltyp said:
Eh, they didn't feel any different to me. Gotta disagree. Every boss has an exploitable weakness or could be bruteforced if weaker.

A decent healer/mage hybrid that could still hit Veera while she was stealthed and regenerated at least as much mana as he consumed and simply sealing Argos magic was enough to not even bother with individual commands because the ai is good enough at deciding.

Had zero clue what I was doing and ended up with various rank A monsters long before tackling any proper tournament ranks while focusing on online fights to see what other people use. Random breeding was successful for.

The only monsters I actually actively aimed for were the Prism Peacock which can easily be combined with monsters prior to challenging hacksaurus and yields a decent S rank monster without relying on any breeding knowledge beyond 'two coloured birds result in a rainbow one' and the Ewwnicorn which is A rank and anyone should easily stumple upon by breeding a couple of beast monsters.

That's a hybrid and a caster whom are enough to get you through everything if paired with any other monsters that don't drop dead after being glared at once.

Building a foundation for a higher ranked monster through the egg you get shortly after starting the game also helps.

By the time he reached the postgame he also should have uber mage on his caster, uber healer on his healer and whatever physical skills he likes on his fast/hard hitting monsters with optional uber helper and boosting skills across the board.

So no, if you just experiment a bit with various skillsets and unique monster traits then by no means should you struggle!

see, thats where experiences differ.
in my game, veera used the same move over and over and hit my s-ss monsters for about 300-400 damage each, not sure if it was gigagash or flawless slash or something, sometimes twice in a row. it felt a little luck reliant to not have her do the same move so often, cause even with multiheal, you only get so far. additionally, she, more than any other gateboss, managed to throw in combos.
yeah, if i had a monster to counter that one move, it might have been easier, but then, you already have to know what you're doing to breed and bring monsters with skills to cancel others out.
same with magic regeneration. i had that from time to time, but never on my healer and never on anything useful until much later.
argos too. i had no viable monster that could seal magic, though i used spells to bolster my spell defenses. he wasn't so much the problem, the problem were his friends spending most of the battle disabling or confusing my monsters.

yes, again, if you know how to breed a prism peacock or know your way around the past games. and now lets be honest, without a guide, all those pure breed monsters are extremely unintuitive, especially with the game making it harder to scout any monster if you already have one of the same kind and actively egging you on to breed new monsters, not breed the same ones. not to mention, without the queens staffs, its halfway impossible to not get screwed over by offsprings genders.

no idea what egg from the beginning you mean. and uber skills? they don't exactly fly into your skillset just like that either.

we can both agree that, once he goes and scouts a few strong monsters from the reflection and blight castle gates to breed, he'll have a much easier time. and he wouldn't be the first one to feel reluctant to breed away his seemingly strong monsters from all the way at the beginning. the game definitely can make you struggle, even if you have a somewhat decent idea of what you do or if you experiment, but absolutely if you're playing this game like, say, you'd play pokemon

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