Switch Lite softmod in 2021/2022

[Nostalgia]

Hacking the xbox 360 had nothing interesting if achieved. Most -if not all- games have been available on PC too, so it makes no sense to waste time and resources trying to hack it to play PC games.

this is not even close to true

Post automatically merged: Oct 22, 2022

Xbox One has no hacks, hardware or software. They learned from the 360. What makes you think Nintendo hasn't learned from their past systems? Even hardware exploits are becoming harder to execute. The current switch hack (even unpatched switches) attacks Nvidia's hardware, not Nintendo's software.

there is no reason to hack the xbox one all games are on PC

thats not even close to true for the 360 tho

 

[l7777]

there is no reason to hack the xbox one all games are on PC

By that logic, there is no reason to hack the Switch via software, it's already been done in hardware.

 

[VeniaSilente]

The Switch is already exploited. RCM for V1 and Modchip for V2.

What would motivate hackers to keep looking if an easy solution already exists today?

The fact that neither of the two things you have asserted here are true.

To be fair, that doesn't mean modding a Switch is impossible (already proven false) or that a full software mod is never or ever going to come, it's just you are comparing two (three) different things, apples to pineapples to oranges, and hence some people just won't take the explanations.

> "The Switch is already exploited"

The Tegra is exploited, and only a specific revision at that, ne that no longer is included into the devices on production. The Switch itself (kernel, OS) has not been touched, so there is still incentive to achieve it because currently you can only reasonably softmod a Switch unit that has been locked in cold storage since release day.

> "What would motivate hackers to keep looking if an easy solution already exists today?"

Operational word: "easy". Installing a modchip, heck even getting a modchip, is not currently within the realm of anything that can be called easy. Furthermore, as it is a hardware-level solution that also requires market involvement, it severely limits it to being a solution that is 1.- non-testable (in the scientific falsifiability sense) and 2.- non-reproducible (meaning if something goes wrong you can't rollback and redo).

So, from the perspective of anyone who expects / hopes for the generalist statement "the Switch is hackable" to become true, there's still justification and motivation to do lots of work. It's just those clash with the current status of reality (eg.: it is *possible* to get the private keys, but not within any timetable that could be considered reasonable, my understanding is it'd currently take ~114 human generations of processing?, and no amount of crying "bUt tHE vITa" is gonna fix that).

 

[binkinator]

The fact that neither of the two things you have asserted here are true.

To be fair, that doesn't mean modding a Switch is impossible (already proven false) or that a full software mod is never or ever going to come, it's just you are comparing two (three) different things, apples to pineapples to oranges, and hence some people just won't take the explanations.

> "The Switch is already exploited"

The Tegra is exploited, and only a specific revision at that, ne that no longer is included into the devices on production. The Switch itself (kernel, OS) has not been touched, so there is still incentive to achieve it because currently you can only reasonably softmod a Switch unit that has been locked in cold storage since release day.

> "What would motivate hackers to keep looking if an easy solution already exists today?"

Operational word: "easy". Installing a modchip, heck even getting a modchip, is not currently within the realm of anything that can be called easy. Furthermore, as it is a hardware-level solution that also requires market involvement, it severely limits it to being a solution that is 1.- non-testable (in the scientific falsifiability sense) and 2.- non-reproducible (meaning if something goes wrong you can't rollback and redo).

So, from the perspective of anyone who expects / hopes for the generalist statement "the Switch is hackable" to become true, there's still justification and motivation to do lots of work. It's just those clash with the current status of reality (eg.: it is *possible* to get the private keys, but not within any timetable that could be considered reasonable, my understanding is it'd currently take ~114 human generations of processing?, and no amount of crying "bUt tHE vITa" is gonna fix that).

Meh. For all intents and purposes both statements and the resulting conclusion are true. No need for mental gymnastics and technicalities.

I just chipped another switch for $79. It was easy. Had to wait two weeks for the post. Hardest part, really.

Bottom Line: the talented people needed to pull this off in software…just aren’t.