Talking to The Living Shadow in another thread sent me on one of normal curiosity side tracks. I know socialised medical care is an often discussed subject, and you're welcome to discuss or debate here this is really more just something to satisfy my own curiosity. Personally I'm all for it, I think every country should have it implemented but then I live in a country that has it so I'm used to it and I see the benefits it brings. So thinking about that made me kind of curious about some statistics. Like whether most people that agree with it do so because they have the benefit of it, whether anyone who has it disagrees with it and that kind of thing.

 

Yep, that's exactly what I mean.

 

Our country kind of has it, but there are gaps everywhere that leave thousands vulnerable. I definitely agree with it though. I think if you look at the countries without it you see that no one really benefits.

 

I don't know how I can describe medical care in Switzerland. It's a mix between socialised and private, but if you're interested, I invite you to read the Wikipedia page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland

 

im all for it.

i'd recommend the documentary "sicko" to anyone (i loved it even though i hate michael moore)

 

I've worked in the NHS for 5 years now, and all i can say is that in my experience the whole thing needs to be scrapped and reworked. Too many managers selected from the bottom of the pile because the better ones went to places that paid better wages. As it is now i just can't help but feel it's something that's now working in it's current state, especially with the aging population, and needs the kind of regulation that a private enterprise would have.

Don't get me wrong, i WANT health provision free for all, but it just seems to me (and others having spoken to long term employees) to have been worn down and broken over the past years.

 

Governments waste money, are corrupt, and are the most inefficient way to deliver a finite resource. It's a nice idea but a disaster in practice that results in poor rationed care, high taxes, and is capable of bankrupting nations. I'd leave medical care to the private sector. It does a good jod not perfect but better than any government. Then all you need to do is provide a proper safety net for the poor.

 

I have thought about this long and hard, and I believe I made a thread that had some discussion of it. The USA I believe has made a decision with federal law. I know it has its merits, but the US's government is so corrupt at the moment that in order to get it passed, someone had to bribe a few congressmen/women and this raises red flags. If this bill was to help everyone, why wasn't it passed immediately? I'll bet 9 to nothing it has some hidden things in it that would make quite a bit of the majority unhappy. I even heard that most of the people for it had not even read it. Until our government has no chance of screwing it up, I will not be supporting socialized health care in the US. In fact I don't think the government won't screw it up. Stupid corrupt politicians. :/

 

Ok, but say your government could pull it off. Would you support the idea of it?

 

Alright, let me ask you this. Same question just in a different way. Imagine if tomorrow when you woke up you had a letter in the post that said that at no extra cost to you your insurance now covered every single citizen in your country. It wasn't going to cost you any more money and your health care costs wouldn't change but someone who couldn't afford it would be covered, would you be against that?