Hacking one click savegame backup solution

[Anon10W1z]

@XFlak I've bricked my Wii so many times, although it was always because
1) I was bricking so I could test a brick recovery method
2) I was testing an app/theory for somebody that I knew was almost certainly going to brick my Wii.

The only exception is one time when I tried to install SM4.1 with Dop-Mii and it crashed during the install.

I wonder what mike333 would think of us when he sees we turned his post waaaaaaaaay off topic.

We answered his questions multiple times. Anything related to gamesaves is now offtopic.

Dop-Mii has never failed on me, how could it crash? (Except with HBC 1.0.8 Dop-Mii crashed on launch 4 Me all the time)

 

[DeadlyFoez]

Straight from the Wiki Page

Wii system software is a set of updatable firmware versions,

From Nintendo's own page

Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files.

If Nintendo says it's firmware then thats what we go with since they made it.

 

[Anon10W1z]

It bricks because he used the word "firmware" instead of System Menu.

Ok, since this thread is already off topic and no one has complained yet, how can you say that it is not firmware?? Just because it changes often and easily? Same with the PS3, 360, modems, and routers. I think the meaning of 'Firmware' has changed a lot from its original meaning.

The System Menu is just like any software. It's not even like an OS since nothing runs under it. It runs like a channel or game would. An IOS is much closer to firmware because it offers low-level hardware access and such. I started a thread trying to find the origin of this "System Menu is firmware" nonsense, but from the answers I got it seems like there was no real origin (such as a project or post) to it.

On Wiihacks the "cIOS explained"thread clearly states that IOS is not the firmware.

P.S. More than 1.5 thousand people said thanks to the author

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[DeadlyFoez]

http://bit.ly/wM3tPk
^^ Many times in many places on Nintendo's own site. How can anyone argue with them?

 

[JoostinOnline]

Straight from the Wiki Page

Wii system software is a set of updatable firmware versions,

From Nintendo's own page

Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files.

1) That's wikipedia, lol
2) That doesnt' say the SYSTEM MENU is firmware. In fact, it suggests that the IOS's are firmware.

It bricks because he used the word "firmware" instead of System Menu.

Ok, since this thread is already off topic and no one has complained yet, how can you say that it is not firmware?? Just because it changes often and easily? Same with the PS3, 360, modems, and routers. I think the meaning of 'Firmware' has changed a lot from its original meaning.

The System Menu is just like any software. It's not even like an OS since nothing runs under it. It runs like a channel or game would. An IOS is much closer to firmware because it offers low-level hardware access and such. I started a thread trying to find the origin of this "System Menu is firmware" nonsense, but from the answers I got it seems like there was no real origin (such as a project or post) to it.

On Wiihacks the "cIOS explained"thread clearly states that IOS is not the firmware.

P.S. More than 1.5 thousand people said thanks to the author

It's not really firmware, but it's the closest thing to firmware that the Wii has.

@DeadlyFoez They talk about updating your router's firmware, lol. There is no mention of the System Menu itself being firmware.

 

[Anon10W1z]

Good point @[member='JoostinOnline']

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[JoostinOnline]

Anon, stop double posting. Just click "Edit" so moderators don't have to merge every other post.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

Imma get 100 posts with this thread! Already 95

And still a noob

 

[AbdallahTerro]

wow, there were like 5 posts all answering the same question within a minute of each other.

@[member='JoostinOnline'], careful otherwise I might write a batch file to install bootmii @ Joostin... overwriting the original, lol. I think the ultimate goal of the Wii Scene should be to reprogram Joostin (I almost said "flash" instead of "reprogram" but decided not to go there, lol!)

but (not so) seriously, I've been on the 'temp a lot longer then you... so in that sense I am old and set in my ways. Bad habits like using the terms bootmii @ boot2 and firmware instead of system menu are hard to break... keep it up and I'll start yelling at you to keep off my virtual lawn

Wait, did you say batch file there? Remeber AdballahTerro's post asking if you can run .bat files on the Wii? Don't turn into him.

What I wanted was a bat to dol converter. please don't misquote me

 

[Anon10W1z]

Imma get 100 posts with this thread! Already 95

And still a noob

1/4-noob, dude.

 

[XFlak]

@[member='Anon10W1z'],
It's a long story, but basically before 4.2 was released and IOS60 was stubbed, WiiSCU was safe (albeit a ticking time bomb). Before IOS60 got stubbed WiiSCU installed the most recent version of IOS60, at the time v6174. Once it got stubbed it started installing the newer stubbed v6400 of IOS60. Back then I was still a noob just following guides and not really understanding what I was doing, and I happened to be softmodding a Wii THE DAY OF the 4.2 update, using the same process I'd used on a couple other Wii's (so I thought it was safe since I had successfully done the exact same steps many times before). I was basically one of the first ppl to experience a stubbed IOS60 brick. I tried all sorts of things to fix it (like autoboot discs) that I know now were a stupid waste of time\discs, and I basically gave up entirely on repairing it before even talking to DeadlyFoez about it... and my big mistake was deleting the nand backup I had made because at the time I thought all hope was lost. Anyways, it's a very funny story with so many different sides to it... from my aunt's perspective (the owner of the Wii) she literally put the Wii back in it's box and ran it over with her truck, yes, her truck. And would you believe that other than a slightly warped frame, the Wii was undamaged (at least in terms of hardware). Anyways, nintendo's warranty covered the damage because of the truck "accident" and never bothered to check if it was soft-bricked. In the end it all worked out for everyone (except nintendo), I got a spare set of wii cables, my aunt got the wii replaced and a free extra wiimote (only slightly damaged from being run over by her truck) and DeadlyFoez & Bushing got some spare Wii parts to play with. Not to mention that it was this incident that helped make Foez and I good friends and it also got me active in the wii scene... so in a way, u could say that WiiSCU v0.21 bricking my Wii is somewhat responsible for all I've done for the scene since then (so basically everything except my crazy intro videos)

 

[Anon10W1z]

I'm sorry for you.

And you got lucky your aunt made up that story! Free Wii 4 U!

 

[DeadlyFoez]

How long do you guys think we can keep this thread going until a mod closes it?

 

[Anon10W1z]

How long do you guys think we can keep this thread going until a mod closes it?

A while.

EDIT: 99th post for me! YAY!

 

[XFlak]

8,156th post for me, yay!

 

[JoostinOnline]

8,156th post for me, yay!

I'm reporting you as a spammer.

 

[XFlak]

8,156th post for me, yay!

I'm reporting you as a spammer.

You're a bastard

8,157th post for me, yay!

 

[Anon10W1z]

8,156th post for me, yay!

Yay! That is so not a random number!

-My 100th post!

EDIT: I'm a GBAtemp regular and am no longer a newcomer! Triple yay!

 

[JoostinOnline]

The important thing is I won the argument.

 

[XFlak]

The important thing is I won the argument.

We gotta let you win every once in awhile otherwise you start to PMS

Honestly, if I were a mod I'd be putting an end to this off-topic convo instead of contributing to it... so making me a mod would benefit gbatemp in 2 ways! hint hint