Probably a strange question to most but I'm curious so I gotta ask. How many people who are happy that Obama won are happy mostly because he's the first non-white president?
rephrase your question please.TrolleyDave said:Probably a strange question to most but I'm curious so I gotta ask. How many people who are happy that Obama are happy mostly because he's the first non-white president?
ExactlyJiggah said:Pimpmynintendo said:Obama is against the american dream and is all for middle class families dishing money out to lower class while the upper class gets out of doing it like they do with most other things.
Also he wants to turn this country bilingual.
It's over, you can stop already! Your dude lost. Save it for 2012.
I would respond to that but I dont want to get into another flame war. I see this thread heading towards the way the gay marriage thread ended.kevenka said:i agree with p1ngpong, you guys need to stop following the media and do some personal research sometimes...Frustrates so much on why Obama became President. The race should've been closer but most people who voted that were black voted him b/c they wanted to "see change"...who was to say obama's change was to be better than mccains? I already proved it was worse. Other's who voted him president for change b/c he was democrat was also pointless...I mean, Mccain already explain his ideas to help the fix the incompetence of our congress. How was Obama's any greater? The biggest thing that should've dissuade you guys from making Obama president is... Can you imagine him being the Chief Executive Officer of the US...when he clearly has no experience in that field? I am not saying he is going to be a bad president but why the hell did our nation put our lives in a weaker candidate?
dinofan01 said:I cant believe people are still bitching about Obama. He won get over it. Face facts, hes the best option we have.
rephrase your question please.TrolleyDave said:Probably a strange question to most but I'm curious so I gotta ask. How many people who are happy that Obama are happy mostly because he's the first non-white president?
TrolleyDave said:...How many people...are happy that Obama [won] mostly because he's the first non-white president?
That is better. I was being mean it was just poorly structured.TrolleyDave said:dinofan01 said:I cant believe people are still bitching about Obama. He won get over it. Face facts, hes the best option we have.
rephrase your question please.TrolleyDave said:Probably a strange question to most but I'm curious so I gotta ask. How many people who are happy that Obama are happy mostly because he's the first non-white president?
Rephrase it how? What I mean is how many are happy because he really is the best choice and will take America back to it's root ideals and how many are happy simply because having a non-white president makes them feel like they are living in more progressive, less racist country.
Is that any better?
It's not flaming when both sides are willing to listen to the others perspective. I am all ears.dinofan01 said:I would respond to that but I dont want to get into another flame war. I see this thread heading towards the way the gay marriage thread ended.kevenka said:i agree with p1ngpong, you guys need to stop following the media and do some personal research sometimes...Frustrates so much on why Obama became President. The race should've been closer but most people who voted that were black voted him b/c they wanted to "see change"...who was to say obama's change was to be better than mccains? I already proved it was worse. Other's who voted him president for change b/c he was democrat was also pointless...I mean, Mccain already explain his ideas to help the fix the incompetence of our congress. How was Obama's any greater? The biggest thing that should've dissuade you guys from making Obama president is... Can you imagine him being the Chief Executive Officer of the US...when he clearly has no experience in that field? I am not saying he is going to be a bad president but why the hell did our nation put our lives in a weaker candidate?
dinofan01 said:I would respond to that but I dont want to get into another flame war. I see this thread heading towards the way the gay marriage thread ended.kevenka said:i agree with p1ngpong, you guys need to stop following the media and do some personal research sometimes...Frustrates so much on why Obama became President. The race should've been closer but most people who voted that were black voted him b/c they wanted to "see change"...who was to say obama's change was to be better than mccains? I already proved it was worse. Other's who voted him president for change b/c he was democrat was also pointless...I mean, Mccain already explain his ideas to help the fix the incompetence of our congress. How was Obama's any greater? The biggest thing that should've dissuade you guys from making Obama president is... Can you imagine him being the Chief Executive Officer of the US...when he clearly has no experience in that field? I am not saying he is going to be a bad president but why the hell did our nation put our lives in a weaker candidate?
Why can't it be both? It is possible that he will be both black and a reasonably good president.TrolleyDave said:What I mean is how many are happy because he really is the best choice and will take America back to it's root ideals and how many are happy simply because having a non-white president makes them feel like they are living in more progressive, less racist country.
dude, it's been like 10 minutes, people will still be angrydinofan01 said:I cant believe people are still bitching about Obama. He won get over it. Face facts, hes the best option we have.
rephrase your question please.TrolleyDave said:Probably a strange question to most but I'm curious so I gotta ask. How many people who are happy that Obama are happy mostly because he's the first non-white president?
irpacynot said:That is better. I was being mean it was just poorly structured.TrolleyDave said:...How many people...are happy that Obama [won] mostly because he's the first non-white president?
Don't really care, though it's obviously historic. But he's an inspirational speaker who seems to speak right from the heart. That's rare in politics.
I agree about the historic part. I don't follow the US elections really so haven't heard Obama speak, I've just seen talk on other forums where people were discussing how great it would be to have a coloured president, there was very little talk about the actual policies and stuff. I asked there too but just got called a racist for even suggesting that it might have influenced some of their votes.
And cheers for pointing out the missing word!
QUOTE(dinofan01 @ Nov 5 2008, 05:26 AM)
Gore said:LET US ALL LISTEN TO THE WISDOM OF THE TWELVE (IM 13 NOW!!! I HAD MY BIRTHDAY IN OCTOBER!!)YEAR OLD BOY FROM AUSTRALIA.Twiggy12 said:obama kicks ass, i mean what would america and the rest of the world want
war, or less war?
obama isnt for war, or against it (i think) wheras the other guy SERVED in a war now who do you think would make more wars?
and i hope obama doesent become an idiot like george bush, he made many people die
heres a joke
after george bush heard that in 1.5 billion years the sun would run out of gas george made a disision he would make every thing right.....
what did he do?
he send 5 million soldiers to the sun
oh yeah, good job obama
Destructobot said:Why can't it be both? It is possible that he will be both black and a reasonably good president.TrolleyDave said:What I mean is how many are happy because he really is the best choice and will take America back to it's root ideals and how many are happy simply because having a non-white president makes them feel like they are living in more progressive, less racist country.
He's also very thin and pretty, which is a plus.
I think most people voted for him because they thought he was the better choice. There have been black candidates before that didn't get nearly as much of the black vote.TrolleyDave said:It can be both, I'm just curious as to how many people see it as a major factor in their choice.
Plus I don't find him that pretty, a little mascara wouldn't hurt.
p1ngpong said:Twiggy12 said:obama kicks ass, i mean what would america and the rest of the world want
war, or less war?
obama isnt for war, or against it (i think) wheras the other guy SERVED in a war now who do you think would make more wars?
and i hope obama doesent become an idiot like george bush, he made many people die
heres a joke
after george bush heard that in 1.5 billion years the sun would run out of gas george made a disision he would make every thing right.....
what did he do?
he send 5 million soldiers to the sun
oh yeah, good job obama
Obama said he was against the war then backtracked on it, time will tell what his stance on the war actually is.
As for McCain serving in Vietnam, who would you rather have leading the country and sending our soldiers into war? Someone who has never served in the army and dosent know what it involves? Or someone who has fought and bled for the country, and knows exactly what he is leading the country into?
Bush was a draft dodger, and he was a massive warmonger and he has led America into two illegal wars and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths!