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    The previous administration set the bar, mutually assured destruction is the only way to prevent anyone from picking such a douche bag in the future. I suspect the US will have a female president soon anyway and that will start the healing, if your aneurysm can last so long.

    I only saw the clips shown on kimmel, looking forward to his appearance on the show next week. It's going to be mental.
     
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    I will keep praying for sweet release. I can't say I agree with your point of view - the political scene in the US didn't need any healing, it needed to be up-ended. The previous administration did just that, the playbook has changed, which is a positive development as far as I'm concerned. The years of the Uniparty won't be coming back anytime soon, the two parties were reminded about the priorities of their electorate. I hope competition will keep growing, but for now the circus is still ran by dinosaurs who don't fully understand the new rules of the game.
     
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    They can protest every bit as effectively protesting elsewhere. People need to get to their job, to the airport to fly home to their family, to the hospital for an emergency, etc, etc. I'll say it again. Stay the fuck off the roads and light rail train tracks.
     
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    In before that happens but it does not take you out and you get both a nice hospital bed with TV on news and maybe a drip feed of the forum when your family find you spent a fair bit of time here and feel like making you at home.

    The slow drawn out death of various US political parties as they refuse to change, or listen to the populace, has been somewhat amusing to watch. Would have been nice to have a proper change about 10 years ago but eh, death comes if not for everybody then enough that it will likely happen by that if nothing else before the next few years are up.

    As far as competition and not uniparty. Can that mathematically exist in the US' setup? The shakeup required to make that happen and not just offer up your neck to the spoiler effect* would almost make for new country levels of change (can you really see coalition governments, runoff or something other than electoral college win-lose) and likely only happen as a result of massive centralisation (and while I usually laugh at states rights types they are not entirely without a point).
    Also seeing the mess of things that is Germany, Belgium, Northern Ireland, India, Spain to some extents, maybe Italy but that is something of a different game, Canada to a few extents, arguably the UK as a whole... where coalitions are either the order of the day or something of a thing.

    *give or take their recent suicide then when the libertarian party was a cohesive force was it ever a thing people voted for in proportion to the likely "all things being equal which do you like the most?" or just when it was comfortable as a "not effectively a vote against" choice in a given location?

    Ignoring my misgivings with the term healing does having tits particularly make for some kind of political ability or abilities in this particular scenario?

    Edit: Re protest laws. Do we have links to the proposed bills so we can try reading for ourselves?
    If it is making for something equivalent to stand your ground laws when someone decides surrounding you to set you on fire/mace to the face/try to pull you out/smash your windows, which is what I imagined would be the laws if going by the usual action-reaction thing. If it is "fuck your Doom my childhood training simulator was Carmageddon" then that is a rather different matter.
    As far as 3 man riot. I don't know if that would be a follow on from 3 man gang type rulings so I would be curious to see a breakdown of that one (not that I find the 3 man gang laws that useful).
     
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    For me it's just a matter of the manner of protesting. We have a constitutional right to peacefully assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances. In my opinion, that does not encompass the blocking of public roadways, violence against persons, vandalism, arson, and looting. All of that is criminal and not protected "speech."
     
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    You could argue that in the event of a medical emergency, a fire or a traffic accident down the road, any deaths resulting from a person being delayed are caused by the protesters, which logically makes them liable. Every individual has a right to freedom of movement - this right should not be impeded without proper cause. It is not the driver who is interrupting the protesters in their attempt to exercise their rights to free speech and assembly, it is the protesters who are interrupting the driver as they exercise their right to travel. The driver belongs on the road more so that the protesters do - they can be just as loud on the pavement.
     
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    This nasty bitch forget who her boss was? Lmao. I can't even... Just. WOW!!! Does the hypocrisy equivalent of horrible diarrhea ever stop spewing from her mouth? Ish. She's so fucking GROSS.

     
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    So what your saying is is ok when Biden does it
     
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    I see what you did there. Sorry, doesn't work.
     
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    So in simple terms to make it clear now that is Biden is ok for him to do it ok Got it
     
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    I see what you did there. Sorry, doesn't work.

    Also, project much?
     
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    Are you serious? That's seriously your follow up? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: And like one of the comments over there says, "this is what Republicans say to try an excuse a police officer murdering a man handcuffed on the street."

    Back to the Kayleigh thing. Did you even LISTEN to the shit she said? Did you? "The role of the POTUS is to stay back, to not inflame the tensions" and "He should reserve comment"? Does she (or you) remember who the hell her boss was? Was she (or you) passed out drunk on Jan 6th, 2021? You want to talk about "So it's okay for Biden to do it?" To do what exactly? For starters I never said anything of the sort, you did. But what exactly are you referring to? Comment on current events? Yup, it's okay for Biden to do that. Or do you mean inflaming the tensions, of which your boy is the KING of? You're failing to see the sheer hypocrisy of her statements. And I would have to say you're doing it on purpose.
     
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    So ... what you're saying is it's okay when Biden does it.
     
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    Left or Right, I doubt any of us care what Kayleigh is saying. Personally, I do not think I have ever heard her talk. I am not about to click on your video link. I do not know why you care what she says or thinks. Do you think I care about what people at CNN say? Or FOX? Because it's all just infotainment... like CNN's Charlie Chester said, the only real news these days is coming from streamer in his basement. All the mainstream crap is garbage.

    You guys got your boy Biden in the there for now, so let bygones be bygones and let's start talking about the current administration and like events.

    They saw what you did there, and it didn't work.
     
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    Here's more for you. "Democrats defend". Oh? Not this Democrat. I firmly believe the shooting of the girl was justified. She was about to stab someone else with a fucking knife. Then the mother comes on with her interview and says the typical line and I quote "She was a very loving, peaceful, little girl. She promoted peace." Did the mother not watch the video of her peaceful little girl attacking others with a knife? So next time you want to make more bullshit blanket statements about an entire group, kindly refer back to this post.
    Reading comprehension is key. So is not putting words in my mouth & not projecting bullshit lies that were never said. Still see what you lot are trying to do, and it still won't work. The deflection is 100% real, folks. Have anything better AND original?
     
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    The peaceful assembly obviously doesn't work as black people have been trying to stop police from killing them for years. I'd have more sympathy for you if the peaceful protest worked the first time.

    But I agree looting isn't right, but then neither is taking out protesters with your car if you can find one that happens to be in the road and you think you can get away with it.

    It's no better than the retarded "good guy with a gun", they are just people who want to kill others but are prepared to wait for a sanctioned event.

    You can argue what you want. It wouldn't meet mens rea and you'd be laughed out of court harder than Trump was.
     
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    Biden kids trying to defend biden here is the most fun I have and they do it for free
     
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    The fact that Democrat representatives are demonising a cop who literally stopped a stabbing and, very likely, saved a life is very weird to me. Even in this thread their own electorate seems to be recognising that this is a textbook swing and a miss. This story will get buried after a week, we'll only hear about it again when most viewers forget the details.

    With that being said, I can see that the Chauvin trial opened the doors to attacking the police even when their actions are justified, or at least somewhat understandable. I can only hope that the guilty verdict will not embolden people to act up in the presence of officers. My worry is that the lesson learned from all this is "riot long enough and you'll get the verdict you want", which is the wrong one altogether. I have zero doubt that the pressure on the jury and the judge was immense, they were operating under the assumption that if they don't appease the crowd, the city will burn. That's a perversion of justice, and I blame the media sensationalising these kinds of stories instead of reporting the cold facts, as well as elected officials who butt in with their two cents instead of letting the wheels of justice turn based on the evidence presented.

    We saw the same thing earlier with the luger kid - out of the entire tape the still image every outlet picked is the one with his hands up - nevermind the fact that less than a second ago he was still holding the gun, nevermind the fact that when he threw it, it was behind his back and the officer probably had no way of knowing that he dropped it. All he knew was that an armed suspect was raising their hands and had to act. Cops are now expected to be superheroes with X-ray vision and the uncanny ability to shoot people in their arms and/or legs while they're running with a weapon - people who have no firearms experience not only don't realise that this would be an Olympic feat, it's also extremely dangerous to bystanders. The media and elected officials should be held to a higher standard - the people deserve to be informed, and the information should be honest, cold facts.
    Blatantly untrue. In terms of police officers and government officials, 18 U.S. Code §111 states that anyone impeding, interfering or intimidating an officer as they perform their duties is liable to be fined or imprisoned. Obstructing medical responders is also a crime in many state statutes. For instance, in Georgia it is illegal to obstruct an EMT, §16-10-24.2. A similar statute exists in Virginia - §18.2-414.1, to name two states off the top of my head. Colorado has an all-encompassing obstruction statute which includes peace officers, firefighters, EMT's and other similar personnel - §18-8-104 CRS. Obstruction of emergency responders absolutely does entail criminal liability. It's actually kind of obvious - if you prevent a responder from doing their duty, you are delaying the aid they're there to dispense when every minute counts, you're contributing to circumstances that may lead to loss of life by delaying the aid that the responder is there to provide - intentionally at that. If the protesters let the responder through, that's fair. If they purposefully interfere with the responder, they are criminally liable for doing so. It absolutely meets the standard of mens rea - the protesters have the knowledge that their activity leads to a specific consequence - a fire truck isn't there for funsies, it's there because there's a fire. The same can be said about an ambulance, or any other emergency response vehicle that's on duty and signals that they're responding to an emergency. They literally have lights and sirens on them, what do you think those signify?
     
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