Hacking How to tell if your DX DSTT is a FAKE.

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supermoose said:
I got my second one today and am happy to say this one was real

a few notes on the real one the, my fake was actually built better, stickers not on straight and tf card doesnt fit flush

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Fake is the one on the left :-)
Then swap the cases.
 

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Got a further two cards forrm dx today same sku (sku 15613)after a lengthy chat..And yes no problems..The card being a dstt card and not cndstt,Thats not taking anything away from cnddst,they seem to have an argument between themselves..And i think it's up to cnddst to sort their kernal out for their card..In the same way they sorted the label out..

Plus stop using a language translator..(Justification) lol..for the word version... As has already been stated if you stuck ndstt v1.16 on your fake then you have problems..But in know way is the card useless..

But thats not up to me, thats up to cndstt to get their fingers out..


Cheers Ady

And glad to aboard..

@ rasputin ..that may depend on where you download it from,it may have been added to the ndstt previous versions already prior too 1.16
 

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Are all fakes glued?

Also regarding the fakes ...without opening it (can't because it's glued tightly shut!) if i peer inside my DSTT i can see the C6 written on the PCB, as well as the DSTT 7 visible through the white bars over the interface and that the 8th bar along (which is slightly longer than the ones to each side) has a hole in it. Just looking at the fake images this has all the trademarks of Fake Number 5...is there any possiblity that a real version would have all these things?

Oh...and the MicroSD slot isn't spring loaded either...is that bad too?
 

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QUOTE said:
@Bri Welcome to gbatemp.net, Ady!

Thanx Bri hope i can contribute..

QUOTE said:
@ xist..Are all fakes glued?

No, unless they couldn't get it to fit back again,but that could happen with the likes of Dx checking them before they post. .The new ndstt card has already been posted..But as i previously stated that does not mean the cndstt card is useless..


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Oh...and the MicroSD slot isn't spring loaded either...is that bad too?

I thought the same but try a little force and you'll find it is..
 

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I was wondering what was up with these chips. I got a batch of 5 around a month ago and the ones that ran 1.16 are dead. The menu comes up, but nothing else loads.

I guess in the meantime use 1.15 until replacements come. Will the card run fine with 1.15?
 

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Use 1.15. The only difference is that 1.16 fixes one obscure Japanese game, but there are reports that 1.16 kills some flash carts. There is definitely no reason to use 1.16 unless you simply must play that one game.

-Bri
 

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you can safely use 1.16 firmware, there is not one single dstt card bricked by firmware update.

and there is also no such report like bri claims. he is posting BS (again, sadly.)



hey bri, if the only difference from 1.15 firmware to 1.16 firmware is 1 game compatibility like you claim why should one not use it? this is again a rhetorical question, dont answer!
 

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wallstreet said:
you can safely use 1.16 firmware, there is not one single dstt card bricked by firmware update.

As of right now, I have 3. They're not "real" DSTT supposedly, but 1.15 works so far. So that says something.


Of course if you have an original there shouldn't be any worries.
 

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wallstreet said:
hey bri, if the only difference from 1.15 firmware to 1.16 firmware is 1 game compatibility like you claim why should one not use it? this is again a rhetorical question, dont answer!

Why do I get the feeling that you don't know what "rhetorical" means?

Now that is a rhetorical question!

-Bri
 

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wallstreet said:
you can safely use 1.16 firmware, there is not one single dstt card bricked by firmware update.

and there is also no such report like bri claims. he is posting BS (again, sadly.)
Yes, because your post is just brimming with cites of credible evidence!
 

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Rankio said:
I was wondering what was up with these chips. I got a batch of 5 around a month ago and the ones that ran 1.16 are dead. The menu comes up, but nothing else loads.

I guess in the meantime use 1.15 until replacements come. Will the card run fine with 1.15?

If you have already put v1.16 on all of your cards,then reverting back too v1.15 wont cure the problem.The damage as already been done.

QUOTEname='wallstreet' date='Dec 16 2008, 02:04 AM' post='1635623']
you can safely use 1.16 firmware, there is not one single dstt card bricked by firmware update.

and there is also no such report like bri claims. he is posting BS (again, sadly.)


If you are referring,to a genuine dstt card then your comment is correct..But in the same context very mis-leading info to members..
As for "no such report like Bri claims" Take a trip to ndstt.com and you'll see that v1.16 fix is for * fixed some errors of 2838 rom..
Bri was stating to use v1.15 has Rankio dosen't have a genuine dstt card..Pay attention and do yourself a favour,lose the attitude..
 

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I have had a card from DX bricked with 1.16 . it corruped all the data on my 2gb card and will do this each time you put the firmware on the card and try and run a game
 

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Ady said:
If you have already put v1.16 on all of your cards,then reverting back too v1.15 wont cure the problem.The damage as already been done.

Not necessarily. Some have suggested that the DSTT team may have put code into the 1.16 firmware to damage fakes intermittently to make it look like the fakes are failing on their own. Again, I don't know if it's true or not, but it's certainly possible. Given that 1.16 fixes only one game it seems prudent (even if you're currently using 1.16) to use 1.15 instead, particularly if you don't know for certain that you DSTT is real.

-Bri
 

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mxk1000 said:
I have had a card from DX bricked with 1.16 . it corruped all the data on my 2gb card and will do this each time you put the firmware on the card and try and run a game


The cards i got from dx 3 weeks ago were fakes..The ones i recieved yesterday again from dx are genuine and run v1.16.A quick tell tale is the sd slot is on the left hand side of this card..
 

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Bri said:
Ady said:
If you have already put v1.16 on all of your cards,then reverting back too v1.15 wont cure the problem.The damage as already been done.

Not necessarily. Some have suggested that the DSTT team may have put code into the 1.16 firmware to damage fakes intermittently to make it look like the fakes are failing on their own. Again, I don't know if it's true or not, but it's certainly possible. Given that 1.16 fixes only one game it seems prudent (even if you're currently using 1.16) to use 1.15 instead, particularly if you don't know for certain that you DSTT is real.

-Bri


Certainly possible.And hazarding a guess maybe depending on what fake people have 1.16 will play different tricks..I personally can only comment on fake 6..
Which failed 10 mins after sticking 1.16 on.Re-formatting the sd and putting 1.15 on,had no effect.Yes you can still re-boot the ds twenty times and eventually all will work..
But as you said, I am playing it safe and 1.15 will go on them all in the future..Unless dstt decide to add it, if not already to previous versions.So keeping a clean 1.15 might be advisable..
 

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I agree that it's probably safe to assume that once your flash cart has been bricked by 1.16, putting 1.15 on it won't help. However, if you're using 1.16 and you haven't (yet) bricked your flash cart, it's still advisable to switch to 1.15 in my opinion since some have reported that they were able to use 1.16 (sometimes for weeks) before it bricked their flash cart.

-Bri
 

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