Hooligans

[TrolleyDave]

For anyone who's watched Cass The Movie here's a documentary put together by Cass Pennant and Panorama. It's a pretty interesting watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1997606021322612799

 

[p1ngpong]

Oooh is this the doc you see them filming in the film? Il watch it in the next hour or two!!!

 

[TrolleyDave]

Oooh is this the doc you see them filming in the film? Il watch it in the next hour or two!!!

It's not mate, the bit you see them filming in the film was from a 5 minute LWT news story. This is a full Panorama episode. Cass doesn't really get interviewed in it but you see him all through it in the sidelines. The real Prentice is in the doc though.

And if you've seen Rise Of The Footsoldier there's a part in this doc with Carlton Leach in it. There's a part about half way through where there's a guy who says "Call yourselves West Ham, we used to walk down there..." to some West Ham fans standing by a bus, the guy doing the yelling is Carlton Leach before the steroids.

 

[p1ngpong]

Ahh I see, yeah I remember now was a little news clip you see them doing not a full documentary.

 

[TrolleyDave]

The news piece was pretty interesting but I've never seen it on any vid sites anywhere. This doc is pretty good because it doesn't really pull any punches. You see a big brawl between the red army and the ICF and there's alot of interviews with ICF members. You don't really see any of the major players except Cass Pennant and Carlton Leach, there's no Bill Gardner or anyone like that. Most had left the football scene by the time this doc was made. I don't know if you ever saw the BBC film called The Firm wth Gary Oldman but it was made shortly after this and was kind of based off the info in it.

 

[p1ngpong]

Sweet going to watch it now, will tell you what I think of it!

 

[p1ngpong]

Just watched it now, good doc. My favourite part is when the hooligans are all on a train and the camera zooms in on some little girl scouts crying lol

 

[moozxy]

Oooh is this the doc you see them filming in the film? Il watch it in the next hour or two!!!

yo dawg..

 

[p1ngpong]

Oooh is this the doc you see them filming in the film? Il watch it in the next hour or two!!!

yo dawg..

Yeah so whats your point? I watched the first half yesterday and didnt get a chance to watch it all till now!



Stop trolling and bullying me man!

PLEASE!!!!

edit: I see you there moozxy, all "Anonymous" like a crazed troll bully!

 

[Cablephish]

So, what I understood from that is, that these people fight for their team and sport. They do it because they like it and/or for loyalty. I'm not gonna go ahead and judge this one way or the other, since I don't know what it's like, and I'm in Canada

we don't have anything like that hear (not that I know of). It's kind of honourable that they fight the people that want to fight, rather than anybody. What I don't understand is how this occurred at the start.

Does this stuff still go on? In my opinion it's kinda barbaric. I hope you aren't like this Trolley.

 

[p1ngpong]

Does this stuff still go on? In my opinion it's kinda barbaric. I hope you aren't like this Trolley.

Didnt you see Dave in the film? Hes in half the scenes!


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[TrolleyDave]

Just watched it now, good doc. My favourite part is when the hooligans are all on a train and the camera zooms in on some little girl scouts crying lol

Yea, it kind of puts paid to the whole "The only people that get affected are other hooligans" claim don't it!

So, what I understood from that is, that these people fight for their team and sport. They do it because they like it and/or for loyalty. I'm not gonna go ahead and judge this one way or the other, since I don't know what it's like, and I'm in Canada

we don't have anything like that hear (not that I know of). It's kind of honourable that they fight the people that want to fight, rather than anybody. What I don't understand is how this occurred at the start.

Does this stuff still go on? In my opinion it's kinda barbaric. I hope you aren't like this Trolley.

Originally hooliganism started out as a different thing. Have you ever played a game called "King of the Hill"? What it was originally was fans of one team would sneak into the other teams fans stands, then when the game was in mid flow start chanting their teams name/singing anthems. The fans would then scuffle and try and get the opposite fans out of the stand. Eventually though it grew into full on violence, and in the 80s it became a really big problem.

It still goes on now but it's a very underground scene, in the 80's it was a really open problem. And no, I'm not like this!

QUOTE(Cablephish @ Dec 31 2008, 05:35 PM)

Does this stuff still go on? In my opinion it's kinda barbaric. I hope you aren't like this Trolley.

Didnt you see Dave in the film? Hes in half the scenes!


WEST AAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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