Covid-19 vaccine

[Dakitten]

this virus is so smart it knows the difference between night time and day time
this virus is so smart it knows the difference between 2 feet 6.2 feet and 8 feet
this virus is so smart it knows when obama has a party with 100+ people and 3 people sitting in a car
this virus is so smart it knows the difference between biden and a child wearing a mask

I suspect you and the virus happen to share the same iq =3

 

[SyphenFreht]

I suspect you and the virus happen to share the same iq =3

I bet the virus has all those X1 hacks people are looking for.

 

[RocaBOT]

Dear lord, how low do the "arguments" against "fake science" vaccines have to go? This is really getting more and more ridiculous by the hour...

it's on the level of "if you die in a car crash with your seatbelt on, it's because fake science seatbelts don't protect you", like come on, you can do better than that peeps

 

[gene0915]

And now for a joke: how many anti-vaxxers does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they prefer to be kept in the dark.

I got a joke too....

Q: How many liberals looked the other way when AOC put on her mask for a photo-op and took it off as soon as the picture was snapped?

A: All of them

 

[Lacius]

I got a joke too....

Q: How many liberals looked the other way when AOC put on her mask for a photo-op and took it off as soon as the picture was snapped?

A: All of them

They're vaccinated and outdoors. Nice try at a "gotcha" though.

Edit: She also put on the mask just before Ed Markey, 75 years old, came over.

 

[Xzi]

I got a joke too....

Q: How many liberals looked the other way when AOC put on her mask for a photo-op and took it off as soon as the picture was snapped?

A: All of them

You plague rats just don't get it. The rest of us were never gonna wait decades for you to get a goddamn clue. Some of us actually want a return to normalcy instead of just pretending we do for the sake of political posturing.

 

[jimbo13]

You plague rats just don't get it. The rest of us were never gonna wait decades for you to get a goddamn clue. Some of us actually want a return to normalcy instead of just pretending we do for the sake of political posturing.

If you want to return to normalcy do it, Been on normalcy since day one. Were not going to comply.

 

[Xzi]

If you want to return to normalcy do it, Been on normalcy since day one. Were not going to comply.

No I understand that, you won't figure out how badly you've fucked up until you're literally on your death bed, and if this pandemic doesn't kill you off the next one probably will. Just don't bitch about it when some of us choose to ditch masks because we've already done our part to protect ourselves and our communities by getting vaccinated.

And hoo boy, if you think Republicans were mad about losing Georgia in this last election, just wait until Texas also flips blue because of COVID deaths. I'm sure you're really gonna be pulling out all the stops on conspiracy theories after that.

 

[SyphenFreht]

...And hoo boy, if you think Republicans were mad about losing Georgia in this last election, just wait until Texas also flips blue because of COVID deaths. I'm sure you're really gonna be pulling out all the stops on conspiracy theories after that.

10/1 on odds they'll cry voter fraud again. That seems to be the go to response to anyone they don't like getting elected.

 

[Lacius]

Been on normalcy since day one. Were not going to comply.

These are the second-to-last words of many of the 550 Americans (and rising) dying of COVID-19 each day. Their actual last words are along the lines of "please give me the vaccine" and "I regret not getting vaccinated."

Your words are as sad as they are foolish.

 

[VegetaSSJBlue321Mystic]

Will you get the covid vaccine? And if so, which one - the RNA vaccine or the traditional one?

I'm scheduled to get the pfizer one soon. There have been very few reports of anaphylaxis so far, but it has been managed effectively with epinephrine.

What are your thoughts?

I've gotten both of my Pfitzer shots. The first one had no side effects but the second one I had chills for about 8 hours and then heat flashes for another 10 or so hours but I was eventaully fine after about 3 days.

 

[KingVamp]

And hoo boy, if you think Republicans were mad about losing Georgia in this last election, just wait until Texas also flips blue because of COVID deaths. I'm sure you're really gonna be pulling out all the stops on conspiracy theories after that.

I know it isn't as big as a flip, but at this rate, Florida could very well share the same fate.

 

[Xzi]

I know it isn't as big as a flip, but at this rate, Florida could very well share the same fate.

Bugs has a different solution for dealing with Florida.

 

[Xen0]

Hey guys. About to get a vaccine. Laws and work kinda force me but whatever.

I'm sure there are experts here. Can you tell me the differences of J&J and BioNTech in Terms of side effects and probabilities? I know J&J only needs one shot and is less effective. More concerned about rare side effects (heart and stuff)

 

[RocaBOT]

exact "probabilities" (the actual term is "incidence" here, in fact) are not known precisely, because that's what they are: rare. They depend a lot on the conditions of the people who get them, including any not-known infections going on at the time, allergies and so on. At any rate, if you're where your flag says you are, I would not be too worried, there's barely any record of anything that hasn't been recovered from fully with proper medical care after the vaccine in our regions.
With any new medication, including and especially new vaccines, there's always increased surveillance of any undesirable effects (regardless of whether they are linked to the new medication or not, in fact), so they can be treated accordingly immediately to avoid any grave outcome. It's in particular still unclear that some of the reported effects are really due to the vaccine, as numbers are comparable (sometimes even lower due to statistic fluctuations) to general population, so the only things we can undoubtedly link to those vaccines specifically are the more common ones: muscle aches, mild to medium fevers for the following ~48hrs, etc, as well as allergic reactions in some rare cases (usually immediate or in the ~15mn following the injection, which is why you stay in observation during that time)

Other more rare things may or may not be linked to it, we really don't know at the end of the day since the numbers are so similar to unvaccinated cases of the same effects, and you should be reporting anything unusual to your health authorities so it can be recorded and investigated anyway (and if it forebodes anything potentially harmful, so they can take care of you before it gets to that hopefully)

 

[Valwinz]

Wait a minute

Teen boys are 14 TIMES more likely to experience rare heart inflammation after receiving Covid vaccine https://t.co/fRTN0K2b6N

— Daily Mail Online (@MailOnline) August 11, 2021

 

[Lacius]

Hey guys. About to get a vaccine. Laws and work kinda force me but whatever.

I'm sure there are experts here. Can you tell me the differences of J&J and BioNTech in Terms of side effects and probabilities? I know J&J only needs one shot and is less effective. More concerned about rare side effects (heart and stuff)

My understanding is the minor side effects (fatigue, etc.) are almost equally probable regardless of which vaccine you get. These side effects are normal signs that your body is building protection. If you get one of the mRNA vaccines, mild side effects are more likely after the second dose (unless you've already had COVID-19).

Anecdotally, I've heard a larger percentage of people who received one of the mRNA vaccines complain about side effects vs. people who received the J&J vaccine. Given the mRNA vaccines produce a more robust immune response, it would make sense that their side effects might be more likely.

The probability of serious side effects with the vaccines is so low that it probably isn't worth obsessing over. You can find more information in the three links below. The blood clots with the J&J vaccine mostly affect older females, and the heart inflammation issues with the mRNA vaccines mostly affect younger males. Both side effects are exceedingly rare regardless, but if you're playing the odds, and your main concerns are the serious side effects, you should maybe get the one unlikelier to affect your demographic group. In other words, get an mRNA vaccine if you're an older female, but get the J&J vaccine if you're a younger male.

• Possible side effects with COVID-19 vaccines: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html
• Rare possibility of heart issues after mRNA vaccines: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
• Rare possibility of blood clots in J&J vaccine: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/JJUpdate.html

In summary, these are the basic guidelines I would follow:

1. Get whichever vaccine you can get the soonest.
2. If you have a choice which vaccine you can get, and you can get them equally early, get one of the mRNA vaccines for the increased efficacy against COVID-19, unless there's a medical reason why you shouldn't.
3. If your concerns are the serious side effects, even though they're extraordinarily rare, get the one less likely to affect you negatively.

 

[Valwinz]

Wait a minute

Teen boys are 14 TIMES more likely to experience rare heart inflammation after receiving Covid vaccine https://t.co/fRTN0K2b6N

— Daily Mail Online (@MailOnline) August 11, 2021

 

[Lacius]

Wait a minute
https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1425396609328861188

We've known for a long time that heart inflammation issues with the mRNA vaccines, while exceedingly rare, are more likely to affect younger males (older than 16) vs. other groups. We also know that blood clot issues with the J&J vaccines, while also exceedingly rare, are more likely to affect older females (younger than 50) vs. other groups.

These are not reasons to not get vaccinated, since they're extraordinarily rare, but if these very rare side effects are a concern to you, get the other vaccine. It should also be noted that these rare side effects, while potentially serious, are rarely life-threatening at this point now that we are aware of them.

 

[RocaBOT]

Okay so let's debunk this real quick, luckilly the dailymail, while not very good at transcribing scientific studies, links to them in their articles so we can look at it first hand.
The conclusions of said study:

Conclusions and Relevance In this small case series study, myocarditis was diagnosed in children after COVID-19 vaccination, most commonly in boys after the second dose. In this case series, in short-term follow-up, patients were mildly affected. The long-term risks associated with postvaccination myocarditis remain unknown. Larger studies with longer follow-up are needed to inform recommendations for COVID-19 vaccination in this population.

Note that patients were mildly affected, that this is a small case series study which means it has little to no relevance statistically speaking, and that they acknowledge that themselves: The long-term risks associated with postvaccination myocarditis remain unknown. Larger studies with longer follow-up are needed to inform recommendations.

Hopefully it's clear enough that you need to go further than the title of the article before spewing nonsense in a spam of the same post all over again, @Valwinz


In conclusion, we have a suspicion that it may be related to the vaccine, but it may also not (15 patients with the number of actually vaccinated people is very close to the incidence of those heart inflammation in general population!)
And we are talking about it, we are treating it as a potential side-effect and monitoring it and getting those patients taken care of, so what's the f*****g problem? It's not like it's hidden under the carpet, or like people that are taking this into consideration were censored or silenced or anything. Quite the reverse in fact. But you are making a case of something that is neither that important nor that relevant.