Covid-19 vaccine

[x65943]

Will you get the covid vaccine? And if so, which one - the RNA vaccine or the traditional one?

I'm scheduled to get the pfizer one soon. There have been very few reports of anaphylaxis so far, but it has been managed effectively with epinephrine.

What are your thoughts?

 

[leon315]

First of all this vaccine DOESN'T have long period of consistent clinic tests and thus there will potentially unwanted or even deadly side effects, however the 1st subjects who get vaccine are Medics, teachers and elderly, most probably we as CIVILIANS have rather wait till second wave for vaccination.

 

[Alexander1970]

Hello.

Will you get the vaccine?

No,I also do not want Flu Vaccines.
My still intact Immune System is too valuable for me to be destroyed by certain Chemicals / Poisons and Viruses = Vaccines.

If People want it,of course,please,they should get it,please.

 

[MMX]

why even have this debate. Just make it mandatory

 

[x65943]

Hello.



No,I also do not want Flu Vaccines.
My still intact Immune System is too valuable for me to be destroyed by certain Chemicals / Poisons and Viruses = Vaccines.

If People want it,of course,please,they should get it,please.

Do you at least get other vaccines like for tetanus and measles?

I can understand being afraid of new vaccines, but old ones with proven safety over decades are silly to stay away from.

 

[Alexander1970]

Do you at least get other vaccines like for tetanus and measles?

I can understand being afraid of new vaccines, but old ones with proven safety over decades are silly to stay away from.

Only no Flu and Covid19 - I am not afraid,but I have an intact Immune System (I had no Flu for over 4 Years and still no Covid/Symptoms *knock on Wood*).

Flu - In my Opinion senseless - If/when the Vaccine is about to "work" ,the Virus(es) are already mutated to the "next Level" so it is no effective Protection.......in my Opinion...same for Corona.

 

[x65943]

Only no Flu and Covid19 - I am not afraid,but I have an intact Immune System (I had no Flu for over 4 Years and still no Covid/Symptoms *knock on Wood*).

Flu - In my Opinion senseless - If/when the Vaccine is about to "work" ,the Virus(es) are already mutated to the "next Level" so it is no effective Protection.......in my Opinion...same for Corona.

The flu vaccine changes every year and its contents are determined by an educated guess as to which strains will be circulating that cycle. For that reason they don't always get it right, but it still confers a degree of protection and saves lives every year.

As for COVID there is no data showing that mutation by the virus will render the vaccines ineffective - corona viruses don't have the ability to mutate in the same way the flu does. The flu doesn't evolve naturally, rather it's simply shuffling around different components in animal hosts. So the flu is really several different viruses shuffling around their parts.

 

[Alexander1970]

The flu vaccine changes every year and its contents are determined by an educated guess as to which strains will be circulating that cycle. For that reason they don't always get it right, but it still confers a degree of protection and saves lives every year.

As for COVID there is no data showing that mutation by the virus will render the vaccines ineffective - corona viruses don't have the ability to mutate in the same way the flu does. The flu doesn't evolve naturally, rather it's simply shuffling around different components in animal hosts. So the flu is really several different viruses shuffling around their parts.

You have to know your "Stuff",Uncle Doctor.

But I am sorry,this is (no longer) working for me.

I am really glad,we have People like you to help "sick" People.
That is very,very important and is good !!!

Thank you for having all these great Guys around the World.



(I hope you do not get me wrong on my personal Opinion,my Friend.)

 

[bodefuceta]

If it works, I don't need it because other people will take it, be immune and not transmit the virus to me.
If it doesn't work, I shouldn't take it anyway.
This way I can get all the benefits and no potential side effects.

Egotistical? Perhaps so, but I don't care about your opinion! Go and take it, my fellow cattle.

 

[x65943]

If it works, I don't need it because other people will take it, be immune and not transmit the virus to me.
If it doesn't work, I shouldn't take it anyway.
This way I can get all the benefits and no potential side effects.

Egotistical? Perhaps so, but I don't care about your opinion! Go and take it, my fellow cattle.

You will only be protected by herd immunity if enough people get the vaccine - otherwise it will still continue to spread among the unvaccinated and the 5% or so of those who are vaccinated without development of immunity.

At least in the USA about half of people say they will not get the vaccine or are unsure if they will get it. So your herd immunity plan might not work out for you.

I suspect Brazil will have its fair share of skeptics too.

 

[bodefuceta]

You will only be protected by herd immunity if enough people get the vaccine - otherwise it will still continue to spread among the unvaccinated and the 5% or so of those who are vaccinated without development of immunity.

At least in the USA about half of people say they will not get the vaccine or are unsure if they will get it. So your herd immunity plan might not work out for you.

I suspect Brazil will have its fair share of skeptics too.

50% is more than enough for herd immunity, as the current transmission rate is definitely below 2. (though it may take a bit of time until the tranmission is completely curbed, the risk will be hugely reduced)

 

[ghjfdtg]

Will get it once the "guinea pigs" (yeah, that sounds harsh but considering how rushed it is that's what the first people to get it are) confirmed it works as expected without major downsides. Which one i don't know. Until there is enough available of both you won't have a choice anyway.

 

[x65943]

50% is more than enough for herd immunity, as the current transmission rate is definitely below 2. (though it may take a bit of time until the tranmission is completely curbed, the risk will be hugely reduced)

It could be 50%, it could be higher. But it will take months to vaccinate all of those people (especially in poorer countries) and in the meantime you will be vulnerable.

 

[DJPlace]

i don't know but if prevent you from getting Covid for life then yeah... sure. i got chicken pox when i was hell i don't rember but i was not a teenager of adult when i got it. but once you get that shot for chicken pox you don't get it any more.

 

[bodefuceta]

It could be 50%, it could be higher. But it will take months to vaccinate all of those people (especially in poorer countries) and in the meantime you will be vulnerable.

It just so happens that I am not old, fat or willing to pay for this suspicious injection. If I were to get it, I would be at the end of the queue anyway, meaning the vaccine is more likely a very unnecessary risk than anything else.

 

[Doran754]

why even have this debate. Just make it mandatory

I found the wannabe dictator.

 

[MMX]

I found the wannabe dictator.

what is your alternative? people dying and shops going bankrupt?

 

[Doran754]

what is your alternative? people dying and shops going bankrupt?

My alternative is too not force people to do things beyond their will, seeing as though were not China.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Here's the rundown.

If you take the vaccine, you'll still have to wear a mask.
The vaccine has a 95% success rate, while COVID has a 99% survival rate.
Facial paralysis is a side-effect of the vaccine.
Infertility is a side-effect of the vaccine. It won't affect me, but it could affect my sister.
The second dose will give you nigh-unbearable headaches for the rest of the day.
You can't sue anybody if the vaccine tuins your life.

I'll take my chances with COVID.

 

[x65943]

Here's the rundown.

If you take the vaccine, you'll still have to wear a mask.
The vaccine has a 95% success rate, while COVID has a 99% survival rate.
Facial paralysis is a side-effect of the vaccine.
Infertility is a side-effect of the vaccine. It won't affect me, but it could affect my sister.
The second dose will give you nigh-unbearable headaches for the rest of the day.
You can't sue anybody if the vaccine tuins your life.

I'll take my chances with COVID.

Facial paralysis was noted in some people who received the vaccine, but so far it is not clear if that is at a higher rate than the general population. I'm gonna need some sources to back up your infertility claims.