When will the US shutdown end?

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When will it?

  • When those pesky democrats give up their demands to fund illegal immigrants' health care

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • When both parties understand that it's in the country's best interest to keep the government running

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • When those pesky republicans admit democrats never held the health care idea to begin with

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • When Trump is removed from office (25th amendment thingy)

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • After the dust settles (cold or even civil war)

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Banananananana...because comedy lightens the mood :D

    Votes: 5 25.0%

  • Total voters
    20

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Yes, another poll. Yes, it's been discussed in at least two other threads (US government in shutdown and the blame game). Here, I'm just curious about the endgame.

The political divide between republicans and democrats is about the only thing both parties agree on. But thus far, with republicans controlling the show, democrats have been put on the sideline the whole time. And still would have, if government funding didn't require a two third majority. Put the blame where you want (again: other thread) but the needed votes weren't reached.

This is where both parties start the finger pointing. It's about health care. As far as I understand it, democrats claim to want to extend the current situation of affordable healthcare for low and mid-earning Americans (which was set to expire at the end of this year). Republicans claim democrats want an extension to include illegal aliens. No agreement was reached, so the government is in "essential jobs only" mode.

Now...depending on your position, this isn't good.

Lefties: the point has been raised that what democrats are doing isn't making a compromise but making demands. Since the republicans have most of the power, that position isn't wrong. In fact, it's a fair assesment.
Righties: since democrats are claiming that they DON'T want illegals to get tax-payed health care...why are republicans claiming they do? If that's true, then the shutdown isn't an anomaly but a goal.


I've made statements (based on reports) that free speech is dead in the US. That means that at least most of the public media is biased and information filtered or censored. It also means that both parties resort to "their" sources and distrust or reject the other side. Which also makes the end of this debacle troublesome. Initially I thought it'd end like the first Trump-presidency shutdown: an anticlimax because some non-essential workers turned out to be essential (air traffic controllers). But it seems they've learned from that and they're safe now(1). Which means I've got no clue how it'll end. Hence the poll.

So what's your take on this? (again: on how/when it'll END. There are threads on the why and who's to blame)



(1): ...except they're now unpaid and will get their current pay back after the shutdown or something
 
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On a serious note, it really depends on how quickly Trump's administration gets through with everything they want done.
 
No idea.
I would assume that Trump would keep Republicans away from signing anything, and it seems for once Democrats aren't going to cave.
 
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probably when Dems to trying to fund illegals the ones looking bad is then since all GOP Voted to re open
 
The Democrats' plan was only good through the end of October, and the Republicans' plan was only good through the end of November. So doesn't matter which side gets its way, very shortly they'll be back at it.
 
It may not end at all if Project 2025 is any indication. Republicans want a dictator ruling by decree, not a government working for the people.
bro is now posting his fanfics here
 
bro is now posting his fanfics here
The document is readily available, and Trump just met with its author a day or two after the shutdown began. There's no point in you trying to keep the charade going any more, shutting down the government was part of the plan all along.
 
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new insurrection fanfic just drop whats with the radical left and violence?
If Trump gets to fantasize about running again in 2028, fair game for people to fantasize about putting him in the ground. Real Americans do not abide by kings or dictators, that's traitor shit. Odds are high he dies of natural causes before then thankfully, he's never taken care of his body.
 
If Trump gets to fantasize about running again in 2028, fair game for people to fantasize about putting him in the ground. Real Americans do not abide by kings or dictators, that's traitor shit.
lmao and you wonder why you people lost. it was so funny you and other here so sure that dementia biden was gona win i still thing about it
 
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new insurrection fanfic just drop whats with the radical left and violence?
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My guy, I ain't part of the "radical Left." Unless "radical left" refers to someone who goes outside and touches grass.
Trump's administration is the reason behind the shutdown. And the reason why they shut down the government is to continue to distract from the Epstein files. I understand Trump supporters are pro-pedophile now, but any reasonable person should want to see this administration overthrown and replaced with one that will release the files. The only sensible part of your post is that this might as well be fanfiction because people are stupid and nothing ever happens.
 
lmao and you wonder why you people lost. it was so funny you and other here so sure that dementia biden was gona win i still thing about it
Too few brain cells left to store recent memories? Biden did beat Trump, he still cries like a bitch about it six years later. Maybe you meant Harris.
 
I think Republicans will stall indefinitely, and Mike Johnson is using the shutdown as an excuse to not swear in Adelita Grijalva because her signature will get us one step closer to getting the Epstein files released and Republicans dont want them to be released
 
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bro is now posting his fanfics here
LOL, you literally make Anime hentai fanfic! I'm guessing your your ability to draw an anime dong is better than your argumentative skills.
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The shutdown will go two ways:
1. The democrats will fold like they did last time.
2. Some republicans will crack under pressure and give a concession on the healthcare, but Trump will be furious.

The common end situation will be that Trump will never care no matter who gets hurt.
 
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I think Republicans will stall indefinitely, and Mike Johnson is using the shutdown as an excuse to not swear in Adelita Grijalva because her signature will get us one step closer to getting the Epstein files released and Republicans dont want them to be released
Mike Jonson already pass the bill so what he does or not is not relevant he pass it and is not his issue anymore
 
Mike Jonson already pass the bill so what he does or not is not relevant he pass it and is not his issue anymore
This is a lie, there has been no vote on releasing the Epstein files since Adelita Grijalva was elected, she's the final yes vote needed for a majority consensus. Another reason why the Guardians of Pedophiles party will keep the shutdown going as long as possible.
 
This is a lie, there has been no vote on releasing the Epstein files since Adelita Grijalva was elected, she's the final yes vote needed for a majority consensus. Another reason why the Guardians of Pedophiles party will keep the shutdown going as long as possible.
we talking about the shutdown wtf you on about lol
 

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