Biden: "You can’t be pro-insurrection and pro-America."

[urherenow]

I've debunked this multiple times now but you smooth brains are incapable of processing verified data on the subject. It's frustrating because you'll all continue to spout these debunked, low IQ claims.

debunked what? The numerous videos covering the riots? You're delusional. Bet you also "debunked" the globe earth model.

 

[TraderPatTX]

If the United States government is able to be over thrown by a couple of thousand unarmed people, we have serious security issues in this country and Biden hasn't done anything in 3 years to address it.

 

[supermist]

debunked what? The numerous videos covering the riots? You're delusional. Bet you also "debunked" the globe earth model.

Most of the violence was found to be at the hand of right wingers and apolitical looters actually, and that's verified.

If the United States government is able to be over thrown by a couple of thousand unarmed people, we have serious security issues in this country and Biden hasn't done anything in 3 years to address it.

You don't understand the 3 branches of government. This is taught in the 5th grade.

Anyway it's worth a shot but I doubt the stats sway any of the new MAGAs here...

Between 2007-2017 extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists.
Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists.

From:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful:
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

At the end of 2020, Trump's DHS has also stated white supremacist extremists are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the US:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

Where could some of the 7% of these non peaceful incidents be coming from? Are right wingers intentionally fanning the flames?

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

Twitter suspends account of white nationalist group posing as antifa:
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-suspends-account-white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa/

Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631

White supremacy groups try to infiltrate recent protests and influence the narrative:
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/pre...courts-amid-covid-19/white-supremacy-protests

3 with ties to white extremism accused of plotting mayhem at protests:
https://www.ajc.com/news/with-ties-...tting-mayhem-protests/GdtpTjwVaapgVZihVtNWeI/

Antifa not the cause of violence at protests:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

Far-right extremists showing up at BLM protests behind the violence:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html

White agitators bringing arson to a George Floyd protest:
https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/06/04/white-arsonists-george-floyd-protests/

Threat of "lethal violence" from "lone offenders" motivated by race:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/intellige...ated-violence-makes-mention/story?id=71166595

Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/wh...-protesters-instigated-richmond-riots-police/

Proud Boys’ brutally beat Black Lives Matter protesters after Trump Parade:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/wa...k-lives-matter-protesters-after-trump-parade/

Leaked Messages Show Far-Right Group's Plans for Portland Violence:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/09/23/patriot-coalition-far-right-chat-logs-violence/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts

Oregon sheriff tells militia members to "have fun killing antifa"


Police arrest Proud Boy protester who pointed gun at Portland rally:
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09...-protester-who-pointed-gun-at-portland-rally/

Cop drives motorcycle into protester:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/cop-drives-motorcycle-into-protester

Boogaloo Bois fired on Minneapolis police precinct, shouted 'Justice for Floyd'
https://www.startribune.com/charges...precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/
https://www.mediaite.com/news/far-r...after-shooting-at-minneapolis-police-station/

Trump supporters trying to destroy the Oregon's State Capitol doors to gain entry:


Trump supporters use mace on police during a protest at Oregon’s capital:


GOP cop running for office punches his black woman opponent at abortion rally:


Right wingers who stormed Oregon State Capitol standoff with Police. Tell them they are traitors and threaten to hang them:

 

[Chris2055]

I respect the effort you put into debunking this but I just don't get it.

What do other events have to do with the insurrection on January 6th? I still don't have an answer for this from anybody. Let's say I were to buy into the idea that left-wingers committed those riots (which I don't), but for the sake of argument let's pretend that I do. How does that make January 6th not an insurrection? How does it make it okay? What's the argument? What's the point?

 

[supermist]

I respect the effort you put into debunking this but I just don't get it.

What do other events have to do with the insurrection on January 6th? I still don't have an answer for this from anybody. Let's say I were to buy into the idea that left-wingers committed those riots (which I don't), but for the sake of argument let's pretend that I do. How does that make January 6th not an insurrection? How does it make it okay? What's the argument? What's the point?

This shows a pattern leading up to and after 1/6. It's also a response to the "BLM protests that burned cities down" whataboutism type of posts we have in this very thread.

With that list, I have debunked the claims that BLM protests were violent. 7% did have violence, but 74% of that violence statistically, was at the hands of right wingers.

 

[Chris2055]

Yeah, but the whole debate is irrelevant. That's the whole point of whataboutism. To deflect attention away from the issue at hand, which is Trump's insurrection.

 

[supermist]

It's still important to shut down the misinformation.

 

[Chris2055]

I agree, and I'm not complaining that you did that. I'm trying to understand why these comments are being posted to begin with. People keep parroting this stuff without explaining how it's relevant.

 

[supermist]

I agree, and I'm not complaining that you did that. I'm trying to understand why these comments are being posted to begin with. People keep parroting this stuff without explaining how it's relevant.

I hear ya. I'm not the one who went the "what about..." line in regards to the protests prior to 1/6.

It's a common false equivalency the MAGAs lean on, but it's false.

 

[Xzi]

Trump's lawyer argues that a president can order SEAL Team Six to assassinate his political rival if Congress is cool with it

It's ridiculous from a moral standpoint, but this is how America has operated for 200 years.

LMAO sure bud, we've always elected our presidents based on who was left standing and nothing else. You're not a serious person.

Obviously no court is going to accept that argument as legitimate, but it would be hilarious if they played along until the realization sinks in that he'd be signing his own death certificate.

 

[The Catboy]

It's still important to shut down the misinformation.

Although important, these are the kinds of people who deluded themselves so much that they are comparing themselves to Revolutionaries and their childish hissy fits to those same revolutionaries

 

[urherenow]

Most of the violence was found to be at the hand of right wingers and apolitical looters actually, and that's verified.

Some media counted every single demonstration down to small groups giving speeches in public spaces, totaling 7305, and claiming 96.3% peaceful. And they would be correct. But that's still disingenuous, considering that percentage against that number leaves about 270 of them that were NOT peaceful. 270 protests that resulted in property damage, injuries, and death in some cases.

By the end of June, 14,000+ arrests were made, and 19 people had already died. Many that were tried and either convicted or pleaded guilty, were let go anyway (some prisons citing problems with overcrowding and COVID). Lets jump back to that number: 14,000+. Are you seriously claiming that more than 7,000 of these arrests were right-wingers? Seems a number like that would be on every single news outlet except for FOX (which might have mentioned it anyway while mocking the other news outlets). But I'm seriously having trouble finding those numbers...

 

[Xzi]

Some media counted every single demonstration down to small groups giving speeches in public spaces, totaling 7305, and claiming 96.3% peaceful. And they would be correct. But that's still disingenuous, considering that percentage against that number leaves about 270 of them that were NOT peaceful. 270 protests that resulted in property damage, injuries, and death in some cases.

By the end of June, 14,000+ arrests were made, and 19 people had already died. Many that were tried and either convicted or pleaded guilty, were let go anyway (some prisons citing problems with overcrowding and COVID). Lets jump back to that number: 14,000+. Are you seriously claiming that more than 7,000 of these arrests were right-wingers? Seems a number like that would be on every single news outlet except for FOX (which might have mentioned it anyway while mocking the other news outlets). But I'm seriously having trouble finding those numbers...

The comparison in its entirety is moronic. Floyd was the straw that broke the camel's back after decades of violent racism in policing. A billionaire megalomaniac losing an election is barely justification enough to go on a Facebook/4chan rant, let alone enough to riot and disrupt the certification of the vote. God forbid the idiots have to wait a decade or two more for oligarchy to fully cement itself in government.

 

[yusuo]

I guess Mr. Biden doesn't know the definition of insurrection nor knows history.

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(nice to meet you, comrade
Hail mother russia)

/s

 

[supermist]

Some media counted every single demonstration down to small groups giving speeches in public spaces, totaling 7305, and claiming 96.3% peaceful. And they would be correct. But that's still disingenuous, considering that percentage against that number leaves about 270 of them that were NOT peaceful. 270 protests that resulted in property damage, injuries, and death in some cases.

By the end of June, 14,000+ arrests were made, and 19 people had already died. Many that were tried and either convicted or pleaded guilty, were let go anyway (some prisons citing problems with overcrowding and COVID). Lets jump back to that number: 14,000+. Are you seriously claiming that more than 7,000 of these arrests were right-wingers? Seems a number like that would be on every single news outlet except for FOX (which might have mentioned it anyway while mocking the other news outlets). But I'm seriously having trouble finding those numbers...

Nice meltdown, idiot.

 

[urherenow]

Nice meltdown, idiot.

Excuse me? I Asked a serious question. Where are the numbers? You want to make a dumbass claim that most of the BLM protests damage was done by right-wingers, now back it up or shut up. I'll even make it easier for you by going by an even 14,000. Don't need names and case numbers, just show that 7,001 ("most") people arrested were right-wingers.

 

[supermist]

Excuse me? I Asked a serious question. Where are the numbers? You want to make a dumbass claim that most of the BLM protests damage was done by right-wingers, now back it up or shut up. I'll even make it easier for you by going by an even 14,000. Don't need names and case numbers, just show that 7,001 ("most") people arrested were right-wingers.

It was proven with data which resulted in you going into some kinda meltdown with covid.

Yes, right wingers were responsible for most of the violence at BLM protests. That's verified and not up for debate.

 

[kevin corms]

Almost as bad as Fauci (Reagan appointee) claiming an attack on him is an attack on science itself. These folks are all so insane Trump can actually gain support against them.

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I am not a Democrat, but I feel like people not being happy over police brutality isn't comparable to people attempting to overthrow an election because their guy lost. I am just saying, the Jan 6th will always be a group of sore losers who were the big mad over their sore loser leader losing. I don't care how people view the other riots, but let's not pretend the losers on Jan 6th were rioting over anything other than being losers.

January 6th is a lot more complicated than that. There was a lot of fbi/cia involvement to make sure it was a big deal. CNN also spent months hyping it up before it happened. Its not like when crazy left wingers actually bombed the capital, only to be pardoned later.

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Excuse me? I Asked a serious question. Where are the numbers? You want to make a dumbass claim that most of the BLM protests damage was done by right-wingers, now back it up or shut up. I'll even make it easier for you by going by an even 14,000. Don't need names and case numbers, just show that 7,001 ("most") people arrested were right-wingers.

It was done by angry rich white kids who think they are changing the world by being toxic morons.

 

[tabzer]

Nobody claiming "insurrection" believes it. The whole world wishes there was an actual insurrection and Trump mitigated it.

 

[supermist]

Nobody claiming "insurrection" believes it. The whole world wishes there was an actual insurrection and Trump mitigated it.

You're legitimately delusional. This is what Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) actually is.