Apparently paddling kids is an okay school punishment in Georgia

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    Make sure to check your calendars, because yes, it is actually not 1853, and yes, people still think physical punishment is an okay method to "train" kids. A school in Georgia is showing that the south still has some backwards mindsets even in the modern day, as they've brought back corporal punishment for misbehaving kids.

    The superintendent of this hot mess school dares to claim that "kids these days" are causing more problems than ever, and a good ol' smack ought to fix things back to normal, and save the children's futures. Totally.

    Permission slips were given to kids to bring home to their parents, so that their parents could sign off on the school's draconian policy. Oh, but don't worry, the school "promises" that troubled kids will only be hit a maximum of three times! Paddlings will occur to kids who've caused a problem on three occasions. Once those three strikes are up, the child is brought into a closed room, where they're smacked three times on the backside.

    Of course, if you're a parent and don't wish for some old man to be slapping your kid on the butt with a wood stick, you can deny this form of punishment, and your kid will obtain 5 days of suspension as alternative punishment. Where then they'll be up for truancy due to unexcused abscences.

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    "kids these days" subdued to technology does not justify violence. There are other ways:

    teach them, "this is how it's done". Retry a few times. People is different.

    There are edge cases where the violence is within a circle. That's where education helps to stop the violence, providing tools for the circle to stop (and people that actually cares staying out of that circle). If such people continue to be violent, that violence will eat him/her alive. But that won't be our problem anymore. So you give people choice and tools.
     
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    THIS THING only happens in 2 places: the 1st is North korea then.... Murica
     
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    It's not really being brought back; it never stopped to begin with. Corporal punishment is still popular among a decent portion of the population, especially the black community. Not sure where you're getting the truancy bit from though. As far as I know, truancy only applies when you are voluntarily skipping school. If you're suspended, then you aren't allowed to attend classes by the school. Punishing you for that would just be silly.
     
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    Some kids need a slap, kids need to learn there are consequences to their actions, otherwise when they grow up they will think they can do anything - until someone punches them in the face and they are totally shocked.

    Bloody snowflake generation....bah...complain about everything.
     
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    Many school districts count out of school suspensions as unexcused abscences on your record. Get only a handful more of those, or even be late a few times on top of that existing 5 days, and a strict district would easily pursue a truancy case. I know, because it happened to me. Be late to class six times through the school year alongside that, or two days without a doctor's note to cover it, and you'll hit 7 days unexcused (texas' cap) where you're subject to a truancy officer giving you and your parents an evaluation. It ranges in a lot of states, from 3-10 days.

    This particular school is bringing it back, though, which sets an unnerving precedent.
     
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    "Damn this generation who don't want to beat their kids but instead develop a decent relationship with them, and keep their kids emotionally and mentally stable!"
     
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    Huh, good to know. I guess my school district wasn't like that. I think one year I had over a dozen unexcused absences and I didn't get in any trouble at all. Or perhaps they were excused with a note from my parents, I can't quite recall. Anyway, seems like a silly system to have.
     
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    How about raising them to be disciplined enough to listen out for a lesson in a calm discussion, without having to beat them to get their attention? When you learn something because of fear of consequences as opposed to really understanding why, you end up with an emotionally stunted child. Please don't be a parent until you get that.
     
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    Yeah. I had it happen three times, actually. One time, I had the school board threaten to expel me in elementary school for attending my grandfather's funeral and missing 7 days. Another time I received a suspension, and then was late a few times, (7 days) and had a truancy officer applied to me in middle school. In high school, they just quietly kicked me out when I had 5 unexcused abscences at the end of the school year. It doesn't take much if you have a strict school or district, and you get suspended, it's going to start a snowball into truancy case. Having such a policy makes it almost appealing to take the physical punishment instead, which is especially disgusting.

    There is no reason to hit a child to teach them a lesson. They don't learn from that. They'll certainly learn that pain is bad, and instead be afraid of what causes the pain, namely, the parent. Which leads to a damaged relationship with their parents when they grow up. Why do you THINK parents these days don't hit their kids? Because THEY were hit as kids and it taught them that it didn't work, and that kids can be taught peacefully and with care and words, rather than abusive physical harm.
     
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    Certainly, but "consequences" shouldn't equate to physical abuse. What does that teach? Act a certain way and we'll hurt you? That's not how the world works, and it isn't how it should work. If an idea or behaviour is unacceptable or harmful, the reason needs to be addressed directly, not have it pushed down to fester as fear and resentment by Pavlovian conditioning. If there's no manner of reasoning that actually halts the action, as can often be the case, then it should be physically halted, though that still doesn't equate with inflicting physical pain. People who commit crimes are sent to prison, not physically tortured. The point is to cease the pain they bring by removing them from society, not to flog them until they behave themselves.
     
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    That's one of the points, yes. However, it is not the only point. Criminal Justice is built upon several pillars: retribution, incapacitation, deterrence, rehabilitation, and restoration are all key components of the justice system and different people value different pillars different amounts. Retribution is often one of the strongest pillars here, along with deterrence. How often do you hear people gleefully talking about how certain convicts are going to be brutalized by other inmates? Far from not being the point, flogging them into behaving is a key component of our criminal justice system. I'm not a fan of it as I believe it just makes things worse, but that's the current state of our system; it is how the world we constructed does work.
     
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    Me mum n dad had physical punishment in school like ruler slaps etc.
    They turned out fine.

    It's true that the majority of children are foul mouthed brats.
    Teaching them a little more respect is up to the parents tho.
     
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    REEEEEEEEEE DAMN MILLENIALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ALWAYS COMPLAINING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED TO TORTURE THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    No, but seriously. I'm pissed when I hear something like this. Sure, kids need to learn some respect, but absolutely not this way. And knowing that Georgia is a typical southern shithole, they'll "punish" kids for the smallest thing ever. I'm waiting for them to start doing this because of not being Christian, being gay, etc. I mean, come on, adjust your clocks for once.
     
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    tbf paddling is still common in certain parts of the world, namely Asian countries. Corporal punishment is even legal here in good ole Virginia, but no one here does it for obvious reasons.
     
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    Curious, but did your parents also punish you by force if you "stepped out of line"?
     
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    when did we went back in time?
     
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    what if the kid has a really high pain tolerance (or a really smart mouth or both) would make it sound like some BDSM shitty porno in the principals office
     
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    Hey yeah no.
     
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