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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election
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I gotta say, the UK media (especially TV) has waaaaaay too much coverage of the US election.
I've been in the states a couple of times during UK elections and didn't know they were even happening!
That being said, UK reporting is very 'slanted' - ultra PC BBC, and Sky only carrying Sky news and CNN agendas.
If the US wants Trump for another term then they will vote him in, and all the civil disruption and burning on the streets will neither change the result or reflect positively on those whose views are in opposition to him, further strengthening the resolve of the average American to vote in this direction.
I've been in the states a couple of times during UK elections and didn't know they were even happening!
That being said, UK reporting is very 'slanted' - ultra PC BBC, and Sky only carrying Sky news and CNN agendas.
If the US wants Trump for another term then they will vote him in, and all the civil disruption and burning on the streets will neither change the result or reflect positively on those whose views are in opposition to him, further strengthening the resolve of the average American to vote in this direction.
i'm very confident biden now has it with the data we have, as long as he continues to hold on in wisconsin and nevada
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Things changed quick from yesterday. Both those states Nevada and Wisconsin will only give him 16 electoral votes not enough to win. All the other states look like they are going red. It looks like trump is on track to win at this moment.
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no, because biden is extremely likely to still win michigan and could also still win pa because the split between which party goes for mail in ballots or in-person voting was more extreme than predicted
You presume that this is an equal opportunity thing.
Its not. From the trajectory its in, US is retracting from the international stage 'as a large actor', 'as we know it'.
Meaning - they have close to energy independence, they have military supremacy. Thy have poor countries to develop (economic growth for both parties), right at the border. They have countries that want to catch up and overtake economically in the wings (south east asia, india, africa in parts). And they have next to no interest to remain in the middle east, if countries there dont bribe them.
So the name of the game is US retraction from the international stage. And who wins the election - internationally is an indication of how fast that goes.
And yes, UK also is affected, because yes, they have a great 'more equal than the rest of the equals' relationship with the US, but at the same time, US is loosing more and more interest in 'that part of the world'.
So 'US doesnt care about the UK as much' is a funny statement in as much as 'why should they'?
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Wow what a race! The early voting stuff has made it way more interesting. Looks like Biden will take it, but the republicans will still keep the senate. But oh boy the polls were wrong or what? The way they collect data must be seriously flawed, specially in this age of internet and social media.
Republican base (not the young, not the old, the base, and across all races) showed up in person more strongly than pollsters predicted (high turnout).
(In general, and as a percentage over mail in voting.)
Meaning Trump Junior and Trump "Them BE STEALING ME FATHERS VOTES - malitia up at the polling places" trick worked. While dems 'keep calm and collected' didnt. (What a surprise... *sarcasm*)
Here, Trump is driving the messaging home as we speak - while democrats are having a hard time formulating the story of what happened:
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/03/trump-tweet-steal-election-vote-by-mail/
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it's definitely far closer than it should be, which was my prediction, but it doesn't look good for trump with the data we have at the present
It's just a technicality at this point, it's over
Biden has won
Biden has won
My comments were more aimed at our (UK) media adversely influencing UK citizens than the US coverage.
You're right about the so called 'special relationship' status between us though, the business of government is ...business, and for once the US elected a businessman rather than a career politician.
Trump will do what's right for him, then America, in that order - so it's pretty damning that I reckon a bad day under Trump is slightly better than a good day under Biden / Democrat Govt.
Before you ask, NO! - I don't own a gun, maga cap or southern cross flag
You're right about the so called 'special relationship' status between us though, the business of government is ...business, and for once the US elected a businessman rather than a career politician.
Trump will do what's right for him, then America, in that order - so it's pretty damning that I reckon a bad day under Trump is slightly better than a good day under Biden / Democrat Govt.
Before you ask, NO! - I don't own a gun, maga cap or southern cross flag
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The easiest path for Biden to win is by taking Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan.
If he also takes Georgia and/or Pennsylvania it'll make it harder for the Republicans to dispute it.
At this point (meaning it can change--dont call me names) it seems that Arizona and Nevada are in the bag for Biden while Wisconsin and Michigan are still toss-ups. Georgia and Pennsylvania are even less likely to be for Biden but I'll still consider them toss-ups if the mail in votes really do lean as heavily towards Biden as the polls indicate.
I might be eating my shoe, but it seems like North Carolina is going to Trump.
If he also takes Georgia and/or Pennsylvania it'll make it harder for the Republicans to dispute it.
At this point (meaning it can change--dont call me names) it seems that Arizona and Nevada are in the bag for Biden while Wisconsin and Michigan are still toss-ups. Georgia and Pennsylvania are even less likely to be for Biden but I'll still consider them toss-ups if the mail in votes really do lean as heavily towards Biden as the polls indicate.
I might be eating my shoe, but it seems like North Carolina is going to Trump.
nevada is not in the bag for biden yet and that scares me
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because of the live updating data on the source im looking at, its nerve wrackingly close and a lot still hasn't been reported
To try to ease your stress a tad, all that's left in Nevada is mail in and provisional ballots which may break heavily for Biden. Which is why I said it's in the bag. But you're right, not the the point that Arizona is.
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