i just installed hdd in portable mode via convertor. The loading times are quite long, is that same in dock mode? any idea why could that be.
That's not true. 2.5" external HDDs are designed to work on 0.5A.The Usb C port isnt providing enough current (Amps) to enable your HDD to use its maximum speed. I didnt found any specs of the max current that the switch can provide via its USB C port on handheld mode, but assuming that is the same as the usual current output in microusb port 0.5A and that the HDD's usually require 1~1.5A. That should explain (at least partially) the speed issue.
You can test the same game with a usb flashdisk and see if the loading times get any better.
HDDs have very bad random access, something that is important when loading data that might be scattered all over. Flash memory has much faster random access, although still not on the level of SSDs which have extra hardware to speed up random access.i just installed hdd in portable mode via convertor. The loading times are quite long, is that same in dock mode? any idea why could that be.
Why are you assuming, that USB C has "same specs )" like usb 2.0?The Usb C port isnt providing enough current (Amps) to enable your HDD to use its maximum speed. I didnt found any specs of the max current that the switch can provide via its USB C port on handheld mode, but assuming that is the same as the usual current output in microusb port 0.5A and that the HDD's usually require 1~1.5A. That should explain (at least partially) the speed issue.
You can test the same game with a usb flashdisk and see if the loading times get any better.
They work on 0.5A, but dont work at 100%, they work at lower speeds. If 0.5 amps is enough why do they are shipped with Y cables (i dont know about hdd that use usb 3.0, but its true for 2.0), also why we need to use Y cable to use the hdd on a WiiU?That's not true. 2.5" external HDDs are designed to work on 0.5A.
If it wasn't getting enough power it would more than likely just not work, or have very obvious issues like making weird noises, having issues being read, that sort of thing.
One thing is the specs that the USB C protocol say that should be used, but we have 2 problems with that.Why are you assuming, that USB C has "same specs )" like usb 2.0?
USB C can deliver minimally 0.9A.
After googling "USB C specs" I found that it can deliver up to 2Amps.
Does not really matter how it sees it. USB 3.0 and up can provide 0.9 amps. It's about the ports, not about the protocol.They work on 0.5A, but dont work at 100%, they work at lower speeds. If 0.5 amps is enough why do they are shipped with Y cables (i dont know about hdd that use usb 3.0, but its true for 2.0), also why we need to use Y cable to use the hdd on a WiiU?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-a-y-cable-realy-needed-for-a-wii-u-usb-hdd.447328/
One thing is the specs that the USB C protocol say that should be used, but we have 2 problems with that.
1- the switch doesnt follow the USB C protocol. if that wasnt the case we would be able to safelly use 3rd party docks.
2- when you use an adapter the switch sees it as a usb 3.x device or a usb 2.x? if i use a usb 2.0 device on an adapter and the switch allow it to drain 2 amps it can damage the device and the switch.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/accordi...nt-follow-usb-type-c-protocols-at-all.499979/
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Ahhhh NO they don't ship with Y cables LOLThey work on 0.5A, but dont work at 100%, they work at lower speeds. If 0.5 amps is enough why do they are shipped with Y cables (i dont know about hdd that use usb 3.0, but its true for 2.0), also why we need to use Y cable to use the hdd on a WiiU?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-a-y-cable-realy-needed-for-a-wii-u-usb-hdd.447328/
One thing is the specs that the USB C protocol say that should be used, but we have 2 problems with that.
1- the switch doesnt follow the USB C protocol. if that wasnt the case we would be able to safelly use 3rd party docks.
2- when you use an adapter the switch sees it as a usb 3.x device or a usb 2.x? if i use a usb 2.0 device on an adapter and the switch allow it to drain 2 amps it can damage the device and the switch.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/accordi...nt-follow-usb-type-c-protocols-at-all.499979/
P.S.
Trust me I am an Engeneer
USB HDDs are never shipped with Y-cables. Wii U doesn't follow USB 2.0 spec.They work on 0.5A, but dont work at 100%, they work at lower speeds. If 0.5 amps is enough why do they are shipped with Y cables (i dont know about hdd that use usb 3.0, but its true for 2.0), also why we need to use Y cable to use the hdd on a WiiU?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-a-y-cable-realy-needed-for-a-wii-u-usb-hdd.447328/
One thing is the specs that the USB C protocol say that should be used, but we have 2 problems with that.
1- the switch doesnt follow the USB C protocol. if that wasnt the case we would be able to safelly use 3rd party docks.
2- when you use an adapter the switch sees it as a usb 3.x device or a usb 2.x? if i use a usb 2.0 device on an adapter and the switch allow it to drain 2 amps it can damage the device and the switch.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/accordi...nt-follow-usb-type-c-protocols-at-all.499979/
P.S.
Trust me I am an Engeneer
Does not really matter how it sees it. USB 3.0 and up can provide 0.9 amps. It's about the ports, not about the protocol.
i didnt know that, looks like nintendo is really good at not following the usb specs...USB HDDs are never shipped with Y-cables. Wii U doesn't follow USB 2.0 spec.
Its an 128gb ssd .That's not true. 2.5" external HDDs are designed to work on 0.5A.
If it wasn't getting enough power it would more than likely just not work, or have very obvious issues like making weird noises, having issues being read, that sort of thing.
HDDs have very bad random access, something that is important when loading data that might be scattered all over. Flash memory has much faster random access, although still not on the level of SSDs which have extra hardware to speed up random access.
Hmm, maybe it's not running in USB 3.0 mode. I think there is a difference between OTG cables and adapters, because manufacturers seem to treat USB-C as "anything goes", some cables/adapters could actually be missing the extra wires for USB 3.0.Its an 128gb ssd .
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