Nintendo begins deploying NX SDK to developers

TeamScriptKiddies · Oct 17, 2015

If there is any truth at all to the original story, then I can confirm that Nintendo is keeping their mouths zipped shut to indie devs. If they're truly providing sdk's for the NX then its only to the big boys (AAA developers and what not). Nothing is being shared with any indie devs at all in regards to NX development. As far as the "New developer portal" goes, it looks like all they've done was revamped the site lol. There is no mention of NX anywhere, people are jumping to conclusions lol.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if the Big N is in fact providing the NX sdk to the AAA devs (huge developers) already so they can get a jump start on some launch titles, but I don't expect us Indie devs to hear anything anytime soon....

FAST6191 · Oct 17, 2015

hto60 said:
I don't know why people keep saying that Nintendo will have to shut down their WiiU/3DS servers after NX. Except if there's a (weird) commercial reason, it is not so hard to make an universal game server with automatic charge balancing so you can have the same hardware running every Nintendo game servers ever.

This is true, however all the big publishers ( http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates http://www.trueachievements.com/n17759/ubisoft-closing-online-servers-for-several-games.htm http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...shutting-down-original-xbox-live-servers.aspx ) with designed from the ground up multiplayer games, proper infrastructure and a clue (all things Nintendo lacks) have a long list of games they could have stuck on a virtual server somewhere but were instead shut down. They might get further than many others but history is not on their side.

TeamScriptKiddies · Oct 17, 2015

FAST6191 said:
This is true, however all the big publishers ( http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates http://www.trueachievements.com/n17759/ubisoft-closing-online-servers-for-several-games.htm http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...shutting-down-original-xbox-live-servers.aspx ) with designed from the ground up multiplayer games, proper infrastructure and a clue (all things Nintendo lacks) have a long list of games they could have stuck on a virtual server somewhere but were instead shut down. They might get further than many others but history is not on their side.

Its capitalism at its best, they won't keep the older games online because they would rather you buy the newer ones on newer platforms (guaranteed income) as opposed to buying one game and playing it online "forever..." without the publishers/developers getting additional income from you purchasing the latest game(s).

Honestly, keeping the servers up virtually costs almost next to nothing so they really should keep it going, but they won't sadly....

VMM · Oct 17, 2015

nl255 said:
You might want to see if you can return it as it is unlikely that it will continue to be supported past 2016. You can bet that they will not only drop support but shut down the servers within a few months of the NX coming out.

I already used the 3DS, I just can't return it, beside, I've given my old 3DS to my father, he likes Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright titles.

IpsoFact0 · Oct 17, 2015

Skullz96x said:
Please let it be cheap

so u want cheap and powerful? makes sense.

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Hielkenator said:
I always lol when some people compare specs to the PS4 as it being the holy grail of Graphics.
The PS4 really is NOT that very powerful at all, Sony did good telling everybody that.

If Nintendo wanted they could easily top current specs, hopefully they will realize the Wiiu gamepad is a great control interface but only along side traditional controls like
Wiimote and Nunchuck and "classic" controls like PS4 and Xbone.
Also they REALLY should bring back analog shoulder buttons or something better.
( driving games, or the controls speed of running etc.)
Also hopefully they will explore the VR realm, because I think in the hands of Nintendo they can really push the tech forward without it being "just technology".
Also Miiverse was and is a golden idea and works perfectly for casual and adult gamers.
Also NO more DLC!

It's the most powerful console there really isint any lying going on. People like you make me laugh yes pc this yes pc that.

Foxi4 · Oct 17, 2015

The PS4 is a good marriage between specs and price point, but that doesn't mean that you can't make a better system at a comparable price point. I know Nintendo will go for AMD again since that's the trend and rumours seem to confirm it, but I think they could potentially strike a lucrative deal with NVidia if they really wanted to. NVidia was sort of pushed outside of the gaming market despite previous successes with Microsoft and Sony, so they'd probably give Nintendo preferential treatment just to f*ck with Sony and Microsoft. It's no secret that NVidia puts logs in AMD's way via technologies in Game Works and Nintendo could really get the competitive edge in performance by just using an equivalent NVidia GPU. A man can dream, I guess.

FusionGamer · Oct 17, 2015

raystriker said:
Android is out of the question in my books as its easily hacked/ exploited.

3DS and Wii U are easily hacked / exploited. Nothing is secure.

Joe88 · Oct 17, 2015

Foxi4 said:
The PS4 is a good marriage between specs and price point, but that doesn't mean that you can't make a better system at a comparable price point. I know Nintendo will go for AMD again since that's the trend and rumours seem to confirm it, but I think they could potentially strike a lucrative deal with NVidia if they really wanted to. NVidia was sort of pushed outside of the gaming market despite previous successes with Microsoft and Sony, so they'd probably give Nintendo preferential treatment just to f*ck with Sony and Microsoft. It's no secret that NVidia puts logs in AMD's way via technologies in Game Works and Nintendo could really get the competitive edge in performance by just using an equivalent NVidia GPU. A man can dream, I guess.

Will that really matter since third party devs will continue to avoid nintendo consoles like the plague?
Game works, hair works, physx, and other proprietary tech is barely used, and when it is it usually causes nothing but problems (see witcher 3) even for nvidia users.
It's no secret that nvidia heavily overcharges for their products, and that will not go over well with nintendo which they always try to use the cheapest and lowest quality parts they can get their hands on, I doubt nx will change that.

Foxi4 · Oct 17, 2015

Joe88 said:
Will that really matter since third party devs will continue to avoid nintendo consoles like the plague? Game works, hair works, physx, and other proprietary tech is barely used, and when it is it usually causes nothing but problems (see witcher 3) even for nvidia users.
It's no secret that nvidia heavily overcharges for their products, and that will not go over well with nintendo which they always try to use the cheapest and lowest quality parts they can get their hands on, I doubt nx will change that.

Nevertheless, all those libraries work substantially better on NVidia chipsets, so it would be an advantage. NVidia may overcharge, but they're not stupid. They deployed the Shield line specifically because their chips didn't power any consoles this gen and they wanted vengeance, vengeance even they can see is doing poorly compared to home consoles of higher caliber. I honestly believe they would be favourable to Nintendo just to get their chips out there and f*ck with everybody. As for devs avoiding Nintendo, they need a new licensing structure and Online infrastructure that doesn't suck - provide fertile ground for devs and they will come.

spotanjo3 · Oct 17, 2015

FusionGamer said:
3DS and Wii U are easily hacked / exploited. Nothing is secure.

Actually, all consoles and portable ar hacked. Nothing is secure. Some are easily hacked and some are longer and harder hacked however everything will be hacked and no secure at all.

jonesman99 · Oct 18, 2015

I think they will do some kind of hinting reveal before E3 2016 either February or March. This is giving me PS4/PS3/PSVita Remote Play Functionality, but more than that. Like Wii U to the next level. But I wonder what will they sacrifice in order to make this function work for consumers worldwide?

DSAndi · Oct 18, 2015

I wonder if they have to hand out a lot SDKs......

Ah well Nintendo good luck and sorry i wont buy your new console.

Catastrophic · Oct 18, 2015

Foxi4 said:
NVidia was sort of pushed outside of the gaming market despite previous successes with Microsoft and Sony

Don't you mean console market? Nvidea's doing pretty damn well on PC.

HaloEliteLegend · Oct 18, 2015

Interesting. So like a Wii U, except you can use the tablet/handheld part on-the-go? It would be nice to see Nintendo merge their home and console markets. Handhelds have been losing market share to mobile games, yet people don't want to see handhelds go. This seems like the best way to cut their losses while developing a solid console. If these rumors are true, think how cool it would be to play a game on your NX console, then just grab the handheld unit and play from anywhere! Could this be the optical drive-free device Nintendo recently patented?

Well, onto the costs of such a device... Nintendo has purposefully foregone high-end components in favor of good pricing to fit families. But if they made a console that has a handheld unit, while including industry-leading components, as the article claims... It might get a bit expensive. And by industry-leading, I hope they mean it. Like, stronger-than-a-PS4 industry-leading! I mean, think about it... If Nintendo garnered enough 3rd party support, they could totally dominate the stagnant console market. I would much rather have Nintendo on top than Microsoft or Sony, since they seem a lot more sensible and less likely to exploit people for heaps of cash. It would also be a cool slap in the face for the fanboys that were trash-talking Nintendo, haha.

The Real Jdbye · Oct 18, 2015

I read the entire article. For those of you who can't access it due to needing a subscription, paste the full URL in Google prefixed by cache: and it'll let you view the article

It seems to go along with what rumors have been saying, although I was surprised that they're using "industry-leading" chips. This could be a new future where Nintendo actually keeps up with the competition specs-wise.

Xzi · Oct 18, 2015

raystriker said:
Android is out of the question in my books as its easily hacked/ exploited.

Even if this were true, and it's not, Android is constantly being updated. By the time someone has created a hack/exploit for one version, Google has already released the next.

Nothing is 100% secure. The US government got hacked and data for pretty much every federal employee was compromised.

Foxi4 · Oct 18, 2015

Catastrophic said:
Don't you mean console market? Nvidea's doing pretty damn well on PC.

Sure, but the PC market is not transparently gaming-related, they would sell PC cards and chips with or without gaming. As far as gaming itself is concerned, (successful) console deployment is a one-of-a-kind opportunity to sell 50-100 million GPU's no questions asked and with zero competition on the platform, it's a huge market that NVidia's missing out on.

raystriker · Oct 18, 2015

FusionGamer said:
3DS and Wii U are easily hacked / exploited. Nothing is secure.

Well the 3ds held off for about 4 years till something concrete came out
Android is waaay easy and there are many, many devs so it could be cracked within days or months.

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Xzi said:
Even if this were true, and it's not, Android is constantly being updated. By the time someone has created a hack/exploit for one version, Google has already released the next.

Its not about the android system itself.
First, how would Nintendo implement android at all? Will the NX software dualboot? Will it be an app? Will they run in a 'hybrid' state (2 different runtimes, ART and NX's together?)

And any company using android HAS to give out the kernel source code etc so....hacked in a day.

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azoreseuropa said:
Actually, all consoles and portable ar hacked. Nothing is secure. Some are easily hacked and some are longer and harder hacked however everything will be hacked and no secure at all.

What good will it be if something gets hacked so late that till the time its properly exploitable, the next gen device is already in the market?

spotanjo3 · Oct 18, 2015

raystriker said:
What good will it be if something gets hacked so late that till the time its properly exploitable, the next gen device is already in the market?

Thats true but it is better to be late. It is not easily to gets hacked and it takes time, you know.

Obveron · Oct 18, 2015

KSP said:
Said this from day one.

NX is a Wii U in reverse, they've moved the gut of the console into the tablet portion of the console, and the moved the AV output into the Console essentially rendering the console portion as a dock.
The NX is a Tablet console, plays games off of a proprietary SD card, hence no optical drive, it can connect to the console portion of the device and stream the data so games can be played off your TV when you are at home.

This was always the most logical step for Nintendo, considering their handheld market is the strongest. Nintendo said that they wanted to use lessons learned from Wii U for the NX, the biggest lesson learned from the Wii U was the console should have been entirely built into the Tablet not the opposite way around.

No the biggest thing (not) learned is that the tablet is a gimmick and that people sitting in front of a giant HDTV don't want to be staring at tiny screen on their lap.

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