Homebrew [challenge] gw-sky-pasta detection

NewWorldOrder · Jun 2, 2015

hi,

the 3ds scene would love to see some competition!

you come up with elegant ways of detecting gateway, sky3ds and various "custom firmware" and win a prize!

the rules:

1. detection code must both dynamically (while being executed on the n/3ds hardware) and reliably detect gw, sky3ds and/or custom firmware
2. detection code must be fully open source and public domain
3. detection code must run on the 3ds' ARM 11 processor in 3ds mode (in either user or svc mode)
4. detection code must use devkitpro and ctrulib, solely

the prize:

all authors of valid solutions / detection code of any of the above mentioned piracy solutions get a kiss for each technique, unlimited uberhaxxor-fame on gbatemp with the right to have the title "mature h4xx0r" (or just "dev" if it makes you feel better) along with his/her signature. bonus points (and plenty hugs and kisses) for readable and well-commented code and for 3ds/n3ds compatibility.

who is allowed to participate:

- anyone with a few braincells left
- anyone who wants to continue supporting nintendo in supplying quality games

Joe88 · Jun 2, 2015

nice try nintendo

Suiginou · Jun 2, 2015

NewWorldOrder said:
all authors of valid solutions / detection code of any of the above mentioned piracy solutions get a kiss for each technique, unlimited uberhaxxor-fame on gbatemp with the right to have the title "mature h4xx0r" (or just "dev" if it makes you feel better) along with his/her signature. bonus points (and plenty hugs and kisses) for readable and well-commented code and for 3ds/n3ds compatibility.

Nathan Drake · Jun 2, 2015

This is probably the least stealthy attempt at getting hackers to do Nintendo's job that I've seen on here yet.

Sliter · Jun 2, 2015

I Know a way! see someone that are playing 3DS, if it have an obvious spotable flashcard , ask wich one he uses,GW or Sky, then you detect which flahscard was that. For pasta, look for someone that have a lot of downloadable content installed, and ask if use a CFW, if yes , you find your guy !

oh I trade my prize for a New 3DS, any region is ok

Nathan Drake said:
This is probably the least stealthy attempt at getting hackers to do Nintendo's job that I've seen on here yet.

at least with a decent prize something could happen hahah

MRJPGames · Jun 2, 2015

This would be very easy to make, just check some values in ram and see if they match GW's, Pasta's or whatever other CFW, but why would you need this. In case you forgot which CFW you were running? This idea is pretty bad, just because of it's utter uselessness.

Neru · Jun 2, 2015

MRJPGames · Jun 2, 2015

Joe88 said:
nice try nintendo

I'm pretty sure Nintendo could write a program that just checks some parts of ram themselves, and they definitely won't need any of us to do so.

Also the only use I could see for this is possibly different services but you can just check in the homebrew if it has access to certain services so you don't need this for anything AT ALL.

NewWorldOrder · Jun 2, 2015

fun facts:

1. if legit games employed gw detection, the gw mafia is forced to update their stuff, which costs them money, which they try to avoid, especially as their sales begin to drop due to pasta.
2. if legit games employed cfw detection, the pasta team will be pretty helpless, since they do lack the skills required to work around the detection code
3. if legit games employed sky3ds detection, it'll be game over for sky3ds since they do not have a way to execute unsigned code
4. even if detection code could manually be patched by "crackers", it might take them some time to release a "warezed" version, which means game developers may make at least a few pennies during that time

Duo8 · Jun 2, 2015

>If legit games
AFAIK Nintendo disallows that.

cearp · Jun 2, 2015

Duo8 said:
>If legit games
AFAIK Nintendo disallows that.

well games have had AP, i'm not sure about on 3ds, but yes, some AP methods are not allowed by nintendo.
i think for gba, or ds, devs were not allowed to check the read speed of the game, for whatever reason.

megazero1x1 · Jun 2, 2015

wow.....
i try not to believe it but it certainly does seem that the OP is in some way affiliated with nintendo.

osm70 · Jun 2, 2015

OP seems to think that homebrew doesn't exist and that piracy hurts 3DS.

TecXero · Jun 2, 2015

I think the OP is just screwing around. Though, a competition like that could be amusing, for those incredibly bored, but it should be closed source for obvious reasons.

hippy dave · Jun 2, 2015

I think you guys are all missing the more important issue here. OP didn't say who the winner would receive the kisses from, I can't help but be suspicious.

Nollog · Jun 2, 2015

NewWorldOrder said:
fun facts:

1. if legit games employed gw detection, the gw mafia is forced to update their stuff, which costs them money, which they try to avoid, especially as their sales begin to drop due to pasta.
2. if legit games employed cfw detection, the pasta team will be pretty helpless, since they do lack the skills required to work around the detection code
3. if legit games employed sky3ds detection, it'll be game over for sky3ds since they do not have a way to execute unsigned code
4. even if detection code could manually be patched by "crackers", it might take them some time to release a "warezed" version, which means game developers may make at least a few pennies during that time

so you work for gateway?

motezazer · Jun 2, 2015

Detect Gateway ---> useless
Detect Pasta ---> useless
Detect Sky ---> useful

EDIT : Just saw it was for embedding into games. Games are not able to run SVC mode code.

It is very easy to detect Pasta. Really.

Suiginou · Jun 2, 2015

motezazer said:
Detect Sky ---> useful

May I ask what you believe the use of detecting Sky3DS is?

motezazer · Jun 2, 2015

Suiginou said:
May I ask what you believe the use of detecting Sky3DS is?

It works on the latest firmware version, the two others no.

Sliter · Jun 2, 2015

NewWorldOrder said:
fun facts:

1. if legit games employed gw detection, the gw mafia is forced to update their stuff, which costs them money, which they try to avoid, especially as their sales begin to drop due to pasta.
2. if legit games employed cfw detection, the pasta team will be pretty helpless, since they do lack the skills required to work around the detection code
3. if legit games employed sky3ds detection, it'll be game over for sky3ds since they do not have a way to execute unsigned code
4. even if detection code could manually be patched by "crackers", it might take them some time to release a "warezed" version, which means game developers may make at least a few pennies during that time

well but forgot why some people use them: Region free /acess to content that aren't worldwide distributed/ undub and translations because some companies are shit (or still xenphobic in 2015....) :v

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