Android Nexus 7 not good enough for DS emulation?

the_randomizer · Feb 15, 2015

Arecaidian Fox said:
It could be just a strange convergence of circumstances for me, too, but eh... Going back to N64oid, I can actually play games at about 1/2 to 2/3 speed on my Trio Stealth Lite, which has basically nothing under the hood. Boxchip A13 Cortex A8, 1.2GHz and 512MB DDR3 RAM.

I hope N64 emulation gets better, when full speed isn't quite full speed, the audio tends to bother me.

Arecaidian Fox · Feb 15, 2015

the_randomizer said:
I hope N64 emulation gets better, when full speed isn't quite full speed, the audio tends to bother me.

I've learned to tune out the laggy audio. The only time it bugs me is when I think that it shouldn't be slow, like on my PC or something.

Judas18 · Feb 15, 2015

the_randomizer said:
My only real fear is that I pay the six dollars and end up with an app that doesn't run as I expect; getting a refund, according to the emulator FAQ, is nigh impossible, so I'd be gypped outta six dollars.

I thought you had 15 minutes to get a refund no? Or is it different for an app like that?

RevPokemon · Feb 15, 2015

Judas18 said:
I thought you had 15 minutes to get a refund no? Or is it different for an app like that?

Well issues is testing Roms and editing settings takes time.

Jayro · Feb 15, 2015

I pirated DraStic, and loved it so much, I finally wanted to support the developers. So I bought it on sale for $5.99, and it was a big mistake. Not only has support for new versions seemingly halted to a stop at v2.2.1.2a, but every time I launch it, it wants to do some shitty license verification online. 90% of the time I'm traveling, I don't have Wi-Fi, so it gives me a message saying it can't verify my license, and closes itself. So I've stuck with the cracked version, and feel extremely ripped off. Shitty DRM like this only punishes the honest consumer, FORCING us to resort to piracy of their apps. It's no wonder piracy runs rampant on Android with shitty DRM schemes like this scam.

TemplarGR · Feb 15, 2015

Nexus 7 hardware is perfectly capable of emulating the DS. The problem is that there is no decent DS emulator on Android at the moment. The most good is Drastic, and it is pure garbage...

As you said, your device could easily emulate machines like the PSP which are far more powerful than the DS...

As for the N64, i don't see what's the problem, Mupen works really fast on that hardware. Just some incompatible games at the moment, plus some video glitches, but it will become better eventually.

endoverend · Feb 15, 2015

Jayro said:
I pirated DraStic, and loved it so much, I finally wanted to support the developers. So I bought it on sale for $5.99, and it was a big mistake. Not only has support for new versions seemingly halted to a stop at v2.2.1.2a, but every time I launch it, it wants to do some shitty license verification online. 90% of the time I'm traveling, I don't have Wi-Fi, so it gives me a message saying it can't verify my license, and closes itself. So I've stuck with the cracked version, and feel extremely ripped off. Shitty DRM like this only punishes the honest consumer, FORCING us to resort to piracy of their apps. It's no wonder piracy runs rampant on Android with shitty DRM schemes like this scam.

I've bought it as well and use it offline all the time, not sure where those problems came from.

Jayro · Feb 15, 2015

endoverend said:
I've bought it as well and use it offline all the time, not sure where those problems came from.

Every Android device (Samsung Galaxy S4 and nvidia Shield Portable) of mine asks for the license check constantly with every launch, as if it's being opened for the first time.

RevPokemon · Feb 15, 2015

TemplarGR said:
Nexus 7 hardware is perfectly capable of emulating the DS. The problem is that there is no decent DS emulator on Android at the moment. The most good is Drastic, and it is pure garbage...

As you said, your device could easily emulate machines like the PSP which are far more powerful than the DS...

As for the N64, i don't see what's the problem, Mupen works really fast on that hardware. Just some incompatible games at the moment, plus some video glitches, but it will become better eventually.

Sure but it is optimization as ppsspp is a much better dev community than drastic.

Also for n64 on my Samsung tab 4 (1.2 quad and 1.5 ram) and droid mini (1.7 dual and 2 ram) and mupen doesn't work no matter what I do (or it does but badly) while n64oid works wonders and runs every pretty much flawlessly.

Arecaidian Fox · Feb 15, 2015

RevPokemon said:
Sure but it is optimization as ppsspp is a much better dev community than drastic.

Also for n64 on my Samsung tab 4 (1.2 quad and 1.5 ram) and droid mini (1.7 dual and 2 ram) and mupen doesn't work no matter what I do (or it does but badly) while n64oid works wonders and runs every pretty much flawlessly.

Like I have been saying, Mupen64 sucks and N64oid kicks serious ass.

TemplarGR · Feb 15, 2015

RevPokemon said:
Sure but it is optimization as ppsspp is a much better dev community than drastic.

Also for n64 on my Samsung tab 4 (1.2 quad and 1.5 ram) and droid mini (1.7 dual and 2 ram) and mupen doesn't work no matter what I do (or it does but badly) while n64oid works wonders and runs every pretty much flawlessly.

Yeah, that is why PPSSPP is free while Drastic costs money...

I don't understand why mupen doesn't work for you. On my similar devices it works really good. Maybe for specific games? It is true i haven't tried many roms, most of the N64 was garbage back in the day and it has aged poorly on top of it.

endoverend · Feb 15, 2015

Jayro said:
Every Android device (Samsung Galaxy S4 and nvidia Shield Portable) of mine asks for the license check constantly with every launch, as if it's being opened for the first time.

Weird, my Nexus 7, Galaxy S3, and Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 never asked me that

RevPokemon · Feb 15, 2015

Well

Arecaidian Fox said:
Like I have been saying, Mupen64 sucks and N64oid kicks serious ass.

One reason is that it is based upon other code which is why its not on google play store

Arecaidian Fox · Feb 15, 2015

RevPokemon said:
Well

One reason is that it is based upon other code which is why its not on google play store

The more you know, lol.

Judas18 · Feb 15, 2015

RevPokemon said:
Well issues is testing Roms and editing settings takes time.

I never needed to change any settings, the only thing I did change was the position of the screens. But the testing takes a while yeah I agree.

the_randomizer · Feb 16, 2015

Great now I really don't know if I wanna try this DS emulator, damn, not sure what to do now

Jayro said:
Every Android device (Samsung Galaxy S4 and nvidia Shield Portable) of mine asks for the license check constantly with every launch, as if it's being opened for the first time.

You do know that there is a forum and an email address for the developer, right?

Exophase · Feb 16, 2015

If the emulator doesn't work like it's supposed to we do give refunds. It's not supposed to need to be online to do the license check any more than the first time you run it - if it persistently needs to be online something is wrong with the license verification on the device. But if the license verification isn't working like it's supposed to we'll give you a refund if you ask for one. So if Jayro wants a refund he can feel free to request it by e-mail or PM me, just provide the order number.

Most cases where someone asks for a refund result in them getting one. The only time we deny them is when they're for petty reasons like "I used to use this emulator a lot but don't feel like it anymore" or "9/10 of the games I regularly play work great but this one doesn't" or because of missing features that it's clearly documented to not have.

RevPokemon · Feb 16, 2015

Exophase said:
If the emulator doesn't work like it's supposed to we do give refunds. It's not supposed to need to be online to do the license check any more than the first time you run it - if it persistently needs to be online something is wrong with the license verification on the device. But if the license verification isn't working like it's supposed to we'll give you a refund if you ask for one. So if Jayro wants a refund he can feel free to request it by e-mail or PM me, just provide the order number.

Most cases where someone asks for a refund result in them getting one. The only time we deny them is when they're for petty reasons like "I used to use this emulator a lot but don't feel like it anymore" or "9/10 of the games I regularly play work great but this one doesn't" or because of missing features that it's clearly documented to not have.

So you work for drastic? Sorry if it sounds stupid.

the_randomizer · Feb 16, 2015

Exophase said:
If the emulator doesn't work like it's supposed to we do give refunds. It's not supposed to need to be online to do the license check any more than the first time you run it - if it persistently needs to be online something is wrong with the license verification on the device. But if the license verification isn't working like it's supposed to we'll give you a refund if you ask for one. So if Jayro wants a refund he can feel free to request it by e-mail or PM me, just provide the order number.

Most cases where someone asks for a refund result in them getting one. The only time we deny them is when they're for petty reasons like "I used to use this emulator a lot but don't feel like it anymore" or "9/10 of the games I regularly play work great but this one doesn't" or because of missing features that it's clearly documented to not have.

I wasn't sure on how it worked to be brutally honest. I tested out the 30 min demo from Google Play and games like Dragon Quest VI struggles at frameskip 1-2, with it set to off, the audio skip badly and this lead me to be convinced that my Nexus 7 2012 simply isn't powerful enough to run the emulator. It was never my intent to insult your work, nor did I know you were on GBA Temp, to be honest. I can try to test a few more ROMs on the demo, but, for my Nexus 7, it's not looking good. I don't know what settings I should run, if I should enable that option which enables more cores, heck, I don't even know if I'll be able to ever run games without frameskip on. Am I totally screwed? I just don't know why Dragon Quest VI seemed to have audio issues when frameskip was disabled, I probably have the wrong configuration, I just want the best results. My other concerns is that my battery life will be adversely affected and I do want to give this emulator a chance.

RevPokemon said:
So you work for drastic? Sorry if it sounds stupid.

You're not trying to bash his work, are you...? I'm baffled. He is the main programmer behind DraStic, so...

RevPokemon · Feb 16, 2015

the_randomizer said:
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You're not trying to bash his work, are you...? I'm baffled. He is the main programmer behind DraStic, so...

Nope. Actually I wanted to know because its pretty cool to have him on the temp.

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