Hacking Gateway will fix any bricked 3DS for free, as long as you're not lying!

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

mznova said:
It's funny there's so much hate towards gateway based on speculation. "I will PROBABLY cost a lot to ship". etc etc. All they said was to contact your vendor and they will take care of the rest. Until someone actually goes through the process, it's stupid to just sit here and whine about theoretical costs.

It's also clear many people are not even reading the message properly. It's not $100 for shipping. It's $100 to get your BRICKED console back if you lied to them about the brick being caused by a gateway card.

I got a major problem with my 999$ surface pro from microsoft a few month ago. I just asked for a replacement and they send me a box with a "brand new" surface pro with a pre-paid box to ship the broken one. It costed me 0$, not 50% of the price of the item.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
I must not visit this forum that often because since WHEN was SMEA working with gateway.

he used and modified the 1.0 Gateway launcher for his initial work. that doesn't mean "working with Gateway"...

if you don't know what's what, don't pretend you do and try to badmouth those who do. you'll end up looking bad in the end.

Xzi · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
I got a major problem with my 999$ surface pro from microsoft a few month ago. I just asked for a replacement and they send me a box with a "brand new" surface pro with a pre-paid box to ship the broken one. It costed me 0$, 50% of the price of the item.

Did you just say that $0 is 50% of $999?

Jesus.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
everyone is using that exploit, every time they go into System settings and press that DS profile button.

using that you get code execution. then you also need a kernel exploit to get privileges.

Gateway team either found that one themselves or someone (*cough* *cough*) sold it to them.

3dbrew entry for the exploit below, note the date:

http://www.3dbrew.org/w/index.php?title=3DS_exploits&diff=prev&oldid=3771

You tell me vague explanation and give me the link of 3dbrew homepage, that's your source?

I'm serious, I want the details about the exploit GW have been using.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
Did you just say that $0 is 50% of $999?

Jesus.

I forgot a *not, fixed it.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
You tell me vague explanation and give me the link of homebrew homepage, that's your source?

I'm serious, I want the details about the exploit GW have been using.

Are you serious? Are you actually serious with that post? What the actual fuck.

That post couldn't possibly have been clearer.

Look, if you have zero knowledge about any of these things, why do you even care about any explanation? You wouldn't understand it anyway.

Nismax · Jan 17, 2014

Xzi said:
It is literally just that, a brick, unless they can get it working for you again.

With all due respect, the term "brick" is entirely figurative, not literal in any sense. Unless you wanted to build a house out of useless 3ds consoles.

Yessy · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
You tell me vague explanation and give me the link of 3dbrew homepage, that's your source?

I'm serious, I want the details about the exploit GW have been using.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/analysis-on-the-gateway-3ds-blue-cart-updateable.357103/

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
he used and modified the 1.0 Gateway launcher for his initial work. that doesn't mean "working with Gateway"...

if you don't know what's what, don't pretend you do and try to badmouth those who do. you'll end up looking bad in the end.

Same to you my friend.

My argument is based purely on the fact that both Gateway and the Clone makers are wrong. Why is gateway wrong? Because they put brick code intentionally to brick the consoles of those who use clone devices. Are there alternatives? Yes. Does gateway have the right to brick consoles? No, and the only party who might LOOSELY have the right to brick consoles are nintendo themselves.

Why are the clone makers wrong? They are copying gateways code. Could they have possibly foreseen the brick code? Possibly but with the code being obfuscated and the bricking happening based if certain datetime requirements being met I doubt they would have seen it no matter how much "testing" they did. Would the clone manufacturer have still released "their" firmware knowing it could brick their customers 3DS's? Probably not but then again you never know, in the end everyone is looking to make a quick buck.

Huntereb · Jan 17, 2014

Nismax said:
With all due respect, the term "brick" is entirely figurative, not literal in any sense. Unless you wanted to build a house out of useless 3ds consoles.

We could probably accomplish that after what Gateway pulled.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
Are you serious? Are you actually serious with that post? What the actual fuck.

That post couldn't possibly have been clearer.

Look, if you have zero knowledge about any of these things, why do you even care about any explanation? You wouldn't understand it anyway.

I'm about to finish my baccalaureate Embedded System and I'm starting my Master this summer thanks you.
And btw, your post was completely pointless.

Yessy said:
http://gbatemp.net/threads/analysis-on-the-gateway-3ds-blue-cart-updateable.357103/

Thanks Yessy, I'll read that now.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

sergster1 said:
Same to you my friend.

My argument is based purely on the fact that both Gateway and the Clone makers are wrong. Why is gateway wrong? Because they put brick code intentionally to brick the consoles of those who use clone devices. Are there alternatives? Yes. Does gateway have the right to brick consoles? No, and the only party who might LOOSELY have the right to brick consoles are nintendo themselves.

Why are the clone makers wrong? They are copying gateways code. Could they have possibly foreseen the brick code? Possibly but with the code being obfuscated and the bricking happening based if certain datetime requirements being met I doubt they would have seen it no matter how much "testing" they did. Would the clone manufacturer have still released "their" firmware knowing it could brick their customers 3DS's? Probably not but then again you never know, in the end everyone is looking to make a quick buck.

what on earth are you talking about?

we were debating the relative efforts involved in finding an exploit and using that exploit for the use of a flashcard.

justinkb · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
I'm about to finish my baccalaureate Embedded System and I'm starting my Master this summer thanks you.
And btw, your post was completely pointless.

Thanks Yessy, I'll read that now.

that "link to the 3dbrew homepage" is a _direct link_ to the posting of the _details_ of the _exact exploit_ we were talking about.

that you couldn't even discern that obvious fact makes me weep.

what Yessy linked to has nothing to do with any 3ds mode exploits, its an analysis of the ds-mode r4 card supplied with the gateway.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
that "link to the 3dbrew homepage" is a _direct link_ to the posting of the _details_ of the _exact exploit_ we were talking about.

that you couldn't even discern that obvious fact makes me weep.

what Yessy linked to has nothing to do with any 3ds mode exploits, its an analysis of the ds-mode r4 card supplied with the gateway.

There's nothing on 3dbrew homepage about such a thing. Nowhere they talk about any working exploit that can execute firmware.

But then again, prove me wrong and give me a better link.

Enigma Hall · Jan 17, 2014

The great problem is the small percent of people who was take a second hand 3ds without know if the previous owners have used a clone.

kyogre123 · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
There's nothing on 3dbrew homepage about such a thing. Nowhere they talk about any working exploit that can execute firmware.

But then again, prove me wrong and give me a better link.

In the link justinkb provided to you, there's this part in red in the upper part of the page:
to long or corrupted strings (01Ah 2 Nickname length in characters 050h 2 Message length in characters) in the NVRAM DS user settings cause (System Settings/Other Settings/Profile/Nintendo DS Profile to crush) (this is still 3DS mode)
It's hard to understand, but there's the explanation of the basic functionality of the DS profile exploit GW's and everyone else is using.

I believe that's the user level exploit.

mznova · Jan 17, 2014

ELok said:
I got a major problem with my 999$ surface pro from microsoft a few month ago. I just asked for a replacement and they send me a box with a "brand new" surface pro with a pre-paid box to ship the broken one. It costed me 0$, not 50% of the price of the item.

Do you work for gateway? How do you know it costs 50% of the item?

sergster1 · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
what on earth are you talking about?

we were debating the relative efforts of finding an exploit and using that exploit for the use of a flashcard.

Nvm. I just read the split in the argument I got confused. You say the time period between the exploit being found and gateway coming out is about a year right? Heres the thing. Nothing goes into production immediately. You need time to iron things out. Then you need to find out what you want to achieve with said exploit. While I did say its relatively (key word here relatively) easy to code an OS than it is to find an exploit it still take times to actually work out an OS thats both user friendly and suits your needs. The hack was found in '12 and the gateway came out shortly after that. As I stated before. Look at the python tools thread. Its only a matter of time before someone can code something that does the same job as the Gateway OS.

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

justinkb said:
kill yourself.

What??

Do I have to show it to you?

THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS HOMEPAGE!

ELok · Jan 17, 2014

mznova said:
Do you work for gateway? How do you know it costs 50% of the item?

The mod made an approximation of 100$ total shipping cost (we have to pay the shipping of the 3DS to GW, and back to your place). I pay my 3DS a little under 200$ and I'm sure the price droped since.

Hacking Gateway will fix any bricked 3DS for free, as long as you're not lying!

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