Hacking Gateway will fix any bricked 3DS for free, as long as you're not lying!

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They started with a cart that could barely load and save game progresss to the SD, it's logical that they would just grab a DS flashcard and put it in the packet. As you can see in their site, they never advertise themselves with the DS flashcard as R4i does, hence the "ramble pak" support.

Hadnt thought of it that way. I guess their reputation precedes them then. Ill give them that. Wait, not only that.

-They have good support
-They´re innovating
-They have good english

U easily kill all of that with a DRM of that caliber. They're not in the deep yet tho, im sure of it. They let a lot of us down, but im sure they're still in time to fix the situation still. (EDIT) with SOMETHING. Its in situations like these, that a group proves its faithfulness to everyone.
 

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It was on 3dbrew long before they appeared. A user, from which i don't know the name, found it. The other vuln, no idea.

I guess its all the same then. Even LESS reason to kill all those 3DSs when everyones using an exploit/loophole u didnt even discover.
 

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Of course not, this whole mess isn't Gateway's fault. GW should help the cloners as much as the cloners are helping their customers - not at all.


Enough.

It's as much Gateway's fault as R4i's and any other cloner. I don't see why you cannot seem to comprehend that fact. This WHOLE situation would have not happened if Gateway did not include code that PURPOSEFULLY bricked consoles. There are many alternatives to that. By your logic then Nintendo has the moral right and responsibility to brick the 3DS's of anyone who simply INSERTED a flash cart and that people should be okay with that. There are people who may have just seen R4i and have no clue what a flashcart is but know what an R4i is so they decided to purchase it and got fucked in the end.
 
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I guess its all the same then. Even LESS reason to kill all those 3DSs when everyones using an exploit/loophole u didnt even discover.


The irony of everything!

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you're acting like the entry point is the most impressive part of the work, it surely isn't.

the exploit is essential, sure, but the real meat of the work is in the firmware patching and the FPGA design.
 

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I guess its all the same then. Even LESS reason to kill all those 3DSs when everyones using an exploit/loophole u didnt even discover.

To be fair, they were the first to implement a use to that exploit and now some people of the scene are modifying what Gateway did in order to have a start point to develope homebrew. I hate to say specific names, but there you have Smealum, and the Pancake guy who create the Python Tools along with other guy whose name I can't remember.

As for the person or people who discovered the exploit/entry point, they never released anything (in code) as far as I know.
 

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you're acting like the entry point is the most impressive part of the work, it surely isn't.

the exploit is essential, sure, but the real meat of the work is in the firmware patching and the FPGA design.


You have no idea how to code do you? The real meat of the work is finding the exploit. Once that's found everything else is easy as shit. For example look on the python tools thread. Once you have an entry point its as simple as understanding how the hardware works and coding a menu.

EDIT: In fact is someone had the time and patience someone could PROBABLY (emphasis on probably) code a way so that you could run 3DS roms off the SD without needing a flashcart.
 
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To be fair, they were the first to implement a use to that exploit and now some people of the scene are modifying what Gateway did in order to have a start point to develope homebrew. I hate to say specific names, but there you have Smealum, and the Pancake guy who create the Python Tools along with other guy whose name I can't remember.

As for the person or people who discovered the exploit/entry point, they never released anything (in code) as far as I know.

Ya, u have a fair point again. we have quite a bit to appreciate from them i guess. Whatever happened to gateway on the way i wonder.
 

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You have no idea how to code do you? The real meat of the work is finding the exploit. Once that's found everything else is easy as shit. For example look on the python tools thread. Once you have an entry point its as simple as understanding how the hardware works and coding a menu.

EDIT: In fact is someone had the time and patience someone could PROBABLY (emphasis on probably) code a way so that you could run 3DS roms off the SD without needing a flashcart.

While I agree with your post, AFAIK exploit are mostly found either by chance, or by getting inside information (in this case, nintendo) :P

I think it's the case here. GW seems to be the only one that got the exploit so far.

EDIT : Maybe not 100% agree thought, once the exploit is found, building the library can be quite huge.
 

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You have no idea how to code do you? The real meat of the work is finding the exploit. Once that's found everything else is easy as shit. For example look on the python tools thread. Once you have an entry point its as simple as understanding how the hardware works and coding a menu.

Yup, thats why we're stuck in the iOS scene also, justinkb, Bunch of tweaks, mods and other stuff, but we're stuck on userland exploits for each jailbreak now, about 3 yrs have gone by since the last bootrom exploit; limerain's pretty much dead already, the funny thing is atm, 4.5 uses only 2 exploits for homebrew/rom launching, a jailbreak uses 5+ if i recall correctly. Numbers dont matter, but the exploit is the most important aspect to get anything going
 
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And after one day of arguing, I'm still surprised to read that a lot of people think that GW did the good thing and it's all 100% R4i's fault of those console got bricked.
 
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You have no idea how to code do you? The real meat of the work is finding the exploit. Once that's found everything else is easy as shit.

sure, that is why the exploit was on 3dbrew for a year before anyone did anything with it. take a hike, please.
 

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While I agree with your post, AFAIK exploit are mostly found either by chance, or by getting inside information (in this case, nintendo) :P

I think it's the case here. GW seems to be the only one that got the exploit so far.


Hence why its the hard part.
 

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Enough.

It's as much Gateway's fault as R4i's and any other cloner. I don't see why you cannot seem to comprehend that fact. This WHOLE situation would have not happened if Gateway did not include code that PURPOSEFULLY bricked consoles. There are many alternatives to that. By your logic then Nintendo has the moral right and responsibility to brick the 3DS's of anyone who simply INSERTED a flash cart and that people should be okay with that. There are people who may have just seen R4i and have no clue what a flashcart is but know what an R4i is so they decided to purchase it and got fucked in the end.

If Nintendo decided to brick consoles for using flash cards, then people who used flash cards deserved to be bricked. Nintendo warned of this happening several times that using unauthorized devices may cause your console to brick. The same with Gateway's warning about clone cards before the recent issue of bricking. Still people used clones and got bricked.

I'm still not convinced that this code causing bricks isn't Gateways anti-update fix that caused them to brick their own 3ds. I can't be convinced just as Gateway won't be able to convince all the haters that this situation isn't their fault.
 

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