Thanks for the kind words. I could have been lied to by megazig. From what Marcan said, possible they were trying linux first;-) I was trying to share, ask the experts, and had reasons for my thoughts. Comex knows he told a guy on twitter they were waiting for linux. From what Marcan shared here...maybe I was right. I forgive, and was messing around with some people. Thanks again. I wanted to know and did go to ask people like marcan and comex. Only megazig would do more than say hi.
Not trying to defend anyone, but I'm sure that snikerz was being sarcastic.Edit: snikerz, you just made me (and probably most of the rest of the team) lose 10 motivation points (unless that was supposed to be sarcastic). Keep it up
(Besides, what Wii U games? It looks like the console is sadly pretty dead itself too.)
Anyway, keep up the good work, guys. The WiiU is going to be a terrific platform for homebrew thanks to the Pad's streaming capabilities.
It's hard to be sarcastic in text without clearly stating it, however the reason I believe him to be a troll is by the fact that he has not once posted a reply. Besides this is far off the topics point.
Finally you could actually bring back life to a, sadly and seemingly, dead console
I'll never know why everyone thinks the system is dead. It's only been three months, sales are fine, and many great games have been announced. Why must everyone be so pessimistic about everything?!
Because sales are not fine, the launch month sales totals are less than any month on record for either the ps3 or xbox 360. Equally great games have been announced, but they will take a while to come out and we were promised that zombie u would be great for it only to disappoint. It has done much worse than expected and if you look back to the wii it kinda puts its U counterpart to shame, I am having more fun in wii mode than wii u mode.I'll never know why everyone thinks the system is dead. It's only been three months, sales are fine, and many great games have been announced. Why must everyone be so pessimistic about everything?!
I'm just saying you should actually give it more than a quarter of a year before writing it off as a complete failure.
We are not writing it off as a complete failure but this it has done worse than we expected and generally if a product does badly to start then developers a reluctant to develop for it and so no one buys it because there are no games and this spirals. By the look of things it looks like it will be one of those consoles that will look back on with love however at the time it is neglected. It will be interesting to see if nintendo manage to pull themselves out of it and encourage other companies to make more games.
Microsoft set a goal of 3 million Xbox 360s sold in the first 90 days after its launch. While there was no official word, evidence suggests they fell shy of that goal (and they actually ended up dropping it by 500,000).
The PS3 was "expected" to sell 6 million units in its first six months. It fell miserably short, in actuality selling about 3.5 million. In its first 90 days, it only sold about 1.5 million.
At three months old, the Wii U has sold 3 million units, along with 11 million software units. Also, Nintendo has reported that the sale of a single piece of software makes up for the loss that they're selling the console for.
SO, not only has the Wii U heretofore outsold both the PS3 and the 360 through the same "first 90 days" launch window, Nintendo is 8 million software units in the black. I'm not sure how anyone can claim the console is dead. Sure, it's no Wii launch, but the Wii launch was a freak occurrence and none of us will likely see a piece of hardware sell like that again in our lifetimes.
The PS3 was "expected" to sell 6 million units in its first six months. It fell miserably short, in actuality selling about 3.5 million. In its first 90 days, it only sold about 1.5 million.
At three months old, the Wii U has sold 3 million units, along with 11 million software units. Also, Nintendo has reported that the sale of a single piece of software makes up for the loss that they're selling the console for.
SO, not only has the Wii U heretofore outsold both the PS3 and the 360 through the same "first 90 days" launch window, Nintendo is 8 million software units in the black. I'm not sure how anyone can claim the console is dead. Sure, it's no Wii launch, but the Wii launch was a freak occurrence and none of us will likely see a piece of hardware sell like that again in our lifetimes.
Just to get back to the topic, could what has been released be SHA-1 hashes of encryption keys? If we remember back to the Wii, Nintendo was rather inept at implementation. I'm guessing that they took more precaution with the Wii U, but is it possible that they didn't fully learn from their mistakes? Nintendo had originally implemented a comparison that was similar to comparing strings in C. Those comparisons stopped at the first NULL byte (which seems to be coming up a lot lately) and ignored the padding. Marcan and Bushing gave a really interesting talk about this several years ago. Turns out, that they could fake signatures without much effort. I'm sure Nintendo didn't make that mistake again, but this has me relishing in the ideas of what has or can been done.
Day 8: First key accessed through magic.
Day 11: Buffer overflow would be my guess. They speak of getting drunk, which implies having too much too me.
Day 14: Using their newly found powers, this one was just offered up by the system without a fight.
Day 30: The remaining keys?
This would be 5 keys. Quickly summarizing, the Wii had an ECC key and certificate, NAND keys, a common key, an SD key and a Root certificate. I could be completely wrong on every aspect here, but it sure is fun speculating.
Day 8: First key accessed through magic.
Day 11: Buffer overflow would be my guess. They speak of getting drunk, which implies having too much too me.
Day 14: Using their newly found powers, this one was just offered up by the system without a fight.
Day 30: The remaining keys?
This would be 5 keys. Quickly summarizing, the Wii had an ECC key and certificate, NAND keys, a common key, an SD key and a Root certificate. I could be completely wrong on every aspect here, but it sure is fun speculating.
What made hacking the Wii so interesting in the beginning was that they used a Nintendo IP to run their arbitrary code. Security most likely improved, but this is a company that doesn't understand shaders or how to use them. Almost every single Wii update was an attempt to block homebrew. I'm wondering if they are following suit with the Wii U.
All speculation. Only Marcan knows 100% and I would imagine Comex is right there with Marcan. I don't know any other members of that group. It was pointed out those hashes could be anything. Marcan clearly said he was busy in March. No way to get anymore info unless it is off twitter OR unless somebody could get RELIABLE information off IRC channels. I knew of #wiiudev and somebody said #f0f (????). Never tried it as I won't get told anything, OR somebody would either lie to me or tell me the truth and lie about it;-)
Everything is a stab in the dark, and I've been through this plenty of times. To the guy who thinks he knows that the 5 hashes are, or whatever, here are a few facts. When was that picture of "Fail over flow" on the Wii U gamepad screen released? Marcan posted tweets about "We are treating this ARM as a black box with it's own firmware" and other stuff while going on about the GPU from neogaf thread. I believe it was done once that was posted and somebody mentioned Marcan saying something like, "The Wii U is something we can all enjoy" or something like that. I tend to believe after opened up/unlocked, they wanted to put linux over vWii with access only to some hardware (not Wii U nand, not Wii U disc drive) and I would IMAGINE a dual boot (just me here). It essentially becomes a computer with a decent graphics card, the RAM, the processors. I don't know how SYSTPROT Marcan mentioned above comes into play but he said route A did not work out and route B is standard.
Others said even if they released linux, the exploit would be THERE and could be used for other things. Since it has come out, Megazig said the idea was no Wii U piracy and no Nintendo Wii U code access to allow for piracy or even just USB loaders. I've researched the hell out of, tracked twitter, different websites, looked at twitter feeds of people like "Sven" who mentioned soldering the Wii U and had some devices soldered that REMINDED me of old 360 Nand reading stuff;-) Like algebra, you can get ONE variable and can then get to others. Not also as direct as I make it sound but that is the idea. vWii hacks, those keys, then on from there;-) Interesting to see if/when/what comes out. Seeing Marcan and Comex commenting on here meant a lot though. Ask them, as you won't find anything solid OUTSIDE of them.
I agree. I'm personally interested in what I can obtain on my own. Considering my limited hardware knowledge, I know it won't be much, but it's the learning process that is what excites me about this. Generating ideas and testing them is much more productive and educational than reiterating without comprhension. The end result might be a $350 paperweight, but that makes it all the more interesting. The ultimate goal is to have an open development environment for a system that desperately needs software. It's just a shame that the end result will most likely lead to piracy as well.
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