WHEN is there going to be a POLL to show to bloody MICROSOFT That we want JUST A COPY OF WINDOWS 7 with all NEW UPDATE BUT WIth NO SPYWARE and NO TELEMETRY???
ALL.....SAYT FUCK TO WINDOWS11!!
ALL.....SAYT FUCK TO WINDOWS11!!
Is it worth updating to Windows 11?
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Get ltsc 2021, then you're good until 2032
Does your mother know about all this swearing
It's kinda funny that 11's LTSC only lasts two extra years... Not really worth upgrading.
And what's more, 11 LTSC requires to use an M$ account when connected to the internet from what I've read so that's yet another reason I'm personally not interested trying 11 LTSC out.
Don't expect 12 to be any better either as they're adding AI and Recall to it for our own good. (:
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Windows 11 is kind of well or fair. Not best operating system. Windows XP and 7 are best operating systems but now in not support anymore. Windows 10 is about good, but watch out for bad window updates maybe install unwanted on your computer. Windows 10 is almost similar to Windows 11.
What great for Windows 11 to me is "Live Captions" only! Not all other lousy programs like Co-polit, AI, etc are trash and useless.
I'm still using Windows 11 version 23H2 and seem okay for me. But I already block Windows updates for 6 months right now. I heard about blood of Windows 11 version 24H2 have "Recall" add to it . I refuse upgrade to Windows 11 version 24H2 due to big threats to invade our privacy (Recall take screenshots of us every 3 - 5 seconds what we are doing!) and sent our info to Microsoft servers without our permission.
I urgent everyone to stay on Windows 11 version 23H2 for 3 - 6 years and wait for someone to release out modded Microsoft Windows 11 operating system image (ISO) with all useless background services removed, block all know Microsoft spywares, No Microsoft account required (force use Local account forever like old school) and more.
Windows 12 have worst AI, Recall and more unwanted added by Microsoft. I think Windows 12 would be extreme worst blood of operating system filled a lot of Microsoft spywares. When I saw Windows 12 come out and I will go forward to Linux instead.
Also we can force to move into Linux anytime we like to.
Many people and I would sue Microsoft company for heavy damage if company love to harvest all our and people info without our permission.
What great for Windows 11 to me is "Live Captions" only! Not all other lousy programs like Co-polit, AI, etc are trash and useless.
I'm still using Windows 11 version 23H2 and seem okay for me. But I already block Windows updates for 6 months right now. I heard about blood of Windows 11 version 24H2 have "Recall" add to it . I refuse upgrade to Windows 11 version 24H2 due to big threats to invade our privacy (Recall take screenshots of us every 3 - 5 seconds what we are doing!) and sent our info to Microsoft servers without our permission.
I urgent everyone to stay on Windows 11 version 23H2 for 3 - 6 years and wait for someone to release out modded Microsoft Windows 11 operating system image (ISO) with all useless background services removed, block all know Microsoft spywares, No Microsoft account required (force use Local account forever like old school) and more.
Windows 12 have worst AI, Recall and more unwanted added by Microsoft. I think Windows 12 would be extreme worst blood of operating system filled a lot of Microsoft spywares. When I saw Windows 12 come out and I will go forward to Linux instead.
Also we can force to move into Linux anytime we like to.
Many people and I would sue Microsoft company for heavy damage if company love to harvest all our and people info without our permission.
I'm sure those who exploit zero-click vulnerabilities will make sure to keep your privacy safe
Is this something that can still be bypassed? I was able to install W11 Pro on my gaming rig the other day and bypass the account requirement.
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Yes, it can bypassed use oobe\bypassnro for right now.
Bad news for Windows 11 version 24H2 and later in the future, when someone put fake email address try to bypassed then blocked, no way to bypassed this anymore. Microsoft did patched this fake email address spoof bypassed now on blocked list.
Anytime in near future if what Microsoft find about bypassed on oobe\bypassnro then maybe blocked in near future updated of Windows 11 operating system version 25H1 / 25H2 or later. I afraid about this.
To anyone, read more news from Microsoft here:
Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2354686/microsoft-blocks-windows-11-workaround-local-accounts.html
June 3, 2024 11:18 AM PDT
Before PC users can enjoy everything Windows 11 has on tap, they must first enter an e-mail address that’s linked to a Microsoft account. If you don’t have one, you’ll be asked to create one before you can start setting it up.
A frequently used trick to circumvent this block is a small but ingenious step. By entering a random e-mail address and password, which doesn’t exist and causes the link to fail, you end up directly with the creation of a local account and can thus avoid creating an official account with Microsoft.
Many users prefer this method, as a local account promises more control over their own data and more privacy. However, without a Microsoft account, some useful functions are also lost such as account backup or special features for apps like Copilot.
This common method no longer seems to work, as Microsoft has apparently patched this bug. Instead of skipping the account link, you’re led into a kind of continuous loop that doesn’t end until you have entered the correct email address.
Previously, it was possible to cut the Internet connection in the Task Manager before creating an account. Microsoft has since removed this workaround. As a result, many people who previously used this method are now forced to enter a working Microsoft account email address and password or use other methods.
Bypassing Microsoft account restrictions
Another method of bypassing the account lockdown still exists. You simply have to enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO in the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup process, which allows you to skip the connection to the Internet and thus also the link to a Microsoft account.
However, it’s questionable how long this option will remain available. It seems that Microsoft is aiming to make the use of Windows 11 dependent on a Microsoft account. In combination with the increased calls for Windows users to finally switch to Windows 11, this appears to be a controversial combination.
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If what happen if Microsoft block this bypassed "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" in next updated of Windows 11 operating system will be useless and turned in trash. Means we will force move to Linux. Good bye to Microsoft company.
Bad news for Windows 11 version 24H2 and later in the future, when someone put fake email address try to bypassed then blocked, no way to bypassed this anymore. Microsoft did patched this fake email address spoof bypassed now on blocked list.
Anytime in near future if what Microsoft find about bypassed on oobe\bypassnro then maybe blocked in near future updated of Windows 11 operating system version 25H1 / 25H2 or later. I afraid about this.
To anyone, read more news from Microsoft here:
Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2354686/microsoft-blocks-windows-11-workaround-local-accounts.html
June 3, 2024 11:18 AM PDT
Before PC users can enjoy everything Windows 11 has on tap, they must first enter an e-mail address that’s linked to a Microsoft account. If you don’t have one, you’ll be asked to create one before you can start setting it up.
A frequently used trick to circumvent this block is a small but ingenious step. By entering a random e-mail address and password, which doesn’t exist and causes the link to fail, you end up directly with the creation of a local account and can thus avoid creating an official account with Microsoft.
Many users prefer this method, as a local account promises more control over their own data and more privacy. However, without a Microsoft account, some useful functions are also lost such as account backup or special features for apps like Copilot.
This common method no longer seems to work, as Microsoft has apparently patched this bug. Instead of skipping the account link, you’re led into a kind of continuous loop that doesn’t end until you have entered the correct email address.
Previously, it was possible to cut the Internet connection in the Task Manager before creating an account. Microsoft has since removed this workaround. As a result, many people who previously used this method are now forced to enter a working Microsoft account email address and password or use other methods.
Bypassing Microsoft account restrictions
Another method of bypassing the account lockdown still exists. You simply have to enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO in the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup process, which allows you to skip the connection to the Internet and thus also the link to a Microsoft account.
However, it’s questionable how long this option will remain available. It seems that Microsoft is aiming to make the use of Windows 11 dependent on a Microsoft account. In combination with the increased calls for Windows users to finally switch to Windows 11, this appears to be a controversial combination.
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If what happen if Microsoft block this bypassed "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" in next updated of Windows 11 operating system will be useless and turned in trash. Means we will force move to Linux. Good bye to Microsoft company.
Many Windows users' computers will be left out of security updates once the Windows 10 deprecation day comes.
That said, many people will be forced in one way or another to buy a new device to be able to continue using Windows OS, and that's not a simple fact to bear with. Many people out there still use Windows 7 because Windows 10 requirements aren't satisfied by their computers, even less all that crap Windows 11 requires.
For the end user, it really doesn't matter if your computer comply with this or that hardware capability or not, all we need is to be able to use our computers to do our day-by-day work and/or use it for entertainment, and increasing the requirements for the OS in terms of hardware will only make final users avoid upgrading or as said before, be forced to buy a new device while the one they already have still works perfectly increasing hardware garbage.
That said, many people will be forced in one way or another to buy a new device to be able to continue using Windows OS, and that's not a simple fact to bear with. Many people out there still use Windows 7 because Windows 10 requirements aren't satisfied by their computers, even less all that crap Windows 11 requires.
For the end user, it really doesn't matter if your computer comply with this or that hardware capability or not, all we need is to be able to use our computers to do our day-by-day work and/or use it for entertainment, and increasing the requirements for the OS in terms of hardware will only make final users avoid upgrading or as said before, be forced to buy a new device while the one they already have still works perfectly increasing hardware garbage.
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While many people say that you're making the wrong decision to switch to Windows 11, I personally believe it's up for your choice of accessibilltiy. If you want to make things easier in a more comfortable environment without asking much help for anything, or gaming is your passion, then Windows is for you. If you're more of a programming, wishing that you had more control of the OS in it's entirety, then Linux is definitely the option for you. MacOS is also a viable choice if you're a productive person, but I don't know if you can have the latest versions of MacOS on let's say.... an MSI. Unless it's possible.
It's honestly worth it for RTX HDR but I suspect you wouldn't get much use from that on a laptop.
Recall only works with dedicated AI hardware, which only exists on ARM laptops.
Recall only works with dedicated AI hardware, which only exists on ARM laptops.
Even if they block the bypass they can't make the OS itself dependent on a Microsoft account, businesses/enterprises etc. also use Windows and they can't/won't use a Microsoft account for a number of reasons, and the OS code base is largely the same between home and enterprise versions.Yes, it can bypassed use oobe\bypassnro for right now.
Bad news for Windows 11 version 24H2 and later in the future, when someone put fake email address try to bypassed then blocked, no way to bypassed this anymore. Microsoft did patched this fake email address spoof bypassed now on blocked list.
Anytime in near future if what Microsoft find about bypassed on oobe\bypassnro then maybe blocked in near future updated of Windows 11 operating system version 25H1 / 25H2 or later. I afraid about this.
To anyone, read more news from Microsoft here:
Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2354686/microsoft-blocks-windows-11-workaround-local-accounts.html
June 3, 2024 11:18 AM PDT
Before PC users can enjoy everything Windows 11 has on tap, they must first enter an e-mail address that’s linked to a Microsoft account. If you don’t have one, you’ll be asked to create one before you can start setting it up.
A frequently used trick to circumvent this block is a small but ingenious step. By entering a random e-mail address and password, which doesn’t exist and causes the link to fail, you end up directly with the creation of a local account and can thus avoid creating an official account with Microsoft.
Many users prefer this method, as a local account promises more control over their own data and more privacy. However, without a Microsoft account, some useful functions are also lost such as account backup or special features for apps like Copilot.
This common method no longer seems to work, as Microsoft has apparently patched this bug. Instead of skipping the account link, you’re led into a kind of continuous loop that doesn’t end until you have entered the correct email address.
Previously, it was possible to cut the Internet connection in the Task Manager before creating an account. Microsoft has since removed this workaround. As a result, many people who previously used this method are now forced to enter a working Microsoft account email address and password or use other methods.
Bypassing Microsoft account restrictions
Another method of bypassing the account lockdown still exists. You simply have to enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO in the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup process, which allows you to skip the connection to the Internet and thus also the link to a Microsoft account.
However, it’s questionable how long this option will remain available. It seems that Microsoft is aiming to make the use of Windows 11 dependent on a Microsoft account. In combination with the increased calls for Windows users to finally switch to Windows 11, this appears to be a controversial combination.
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If what happen if Microsoft block this bypassed "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" in next updated of Windows 11 operating system will be useless and turned in trash. Means we will force move to Linux. Good bye to Microsoft company.
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I'm a programmer, I like having control, I'm still not willing to deal with Linux on a day to day basis.
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you can tell when the page ur on is actually useful when it looks like it hasn't been touched since windows 7.
I appreciate that windows 11 *tried* to unify the UI and update the icons/menus but they can never do enough to get it consistent. Windows 11 has about a dozen slightly different UI design styles and it's a mismatched nightmare, it seems like every UWP app was designed by a different developer that didn't know the UI design rules and just kinda guessed the blanks
You should upgrade to Linux, might I suggest Zorin OS or Linux Mint
Any flavor of Linux is a major downgrade from Windows though. I have Zorin on my old laptop and it sucks goat cock. That shit installed more garbage apps I don't want than Windows 11 does.
The uneducated Windows conspiracy theory nonsense continues to crack me up. Linux is still, imo, garbage. Not to mention pretty damn fugly looking.
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I worked at Microsoft for a few years recently and talked with some folks on the OS team during my time there.
If anyone here remembers, the original plan was for Windows 10 to be the last numbered/otherwise identifiable version of the OS, with MS switching to a "OS as a service" model, with small, incremental updates being rolled out on a continuous basis.
However, at some point, there were some significant changes made to OS API's, with a lot of legacy surfaces being dropped or changed for security reasons. As these changes could cause significant problems for developers and confusion for users (most people, developers included, do not know if they are on 22H2, 23H1, or otherwise), the powers that be decided that it would make more sense to simply release a "new version" of Windows so that when something went wrong, they could simply ask the developer/end user if they were on Windows 10 or Windows 11. They also went ahead and decided that it would be a good idea to change how things looked so that the end user/support could immediately visually tell what version of Windows they were running.
The new taskbar was, at release (and IMHO continues to be), not feature complete because it was being built on top of a new, more secure internal library which interfaced with the newer, more secure system API's. This was during the COVID years, though, and with "The Great Resignation" the big tech companies all shuffled employees with one another as a lot of devs jumped from one company to another for huge salary increases. Microsoft was not immune from this, and hemorrhaged a lot of talent (while gaining new ones). The problem was that the team that was working on the internal library that the new taskbar relied on basically disappeared completely, and development therefore ground to a halt. This meant that the taskbar team essentially had the rug pulled out from under their feet and were blocked from making the taskbar replacement feature equivalent to the old one because the functionality they needed literally did not exist and would not exist for the foreseeable future.
So, anyway, what I'm getting at here is that the upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11 gets you, essentially, improved security (in a hand-wavey way that you as the end user will never be able to verify because you can't look at the source code), and a fucked up, half-finished taskbar. The latter of these is the only one you will really ever notice, so... yeah...
FWIW I now use Windows 11. I did a fresh install on my laptop earlier this week and figured I should ditch Windows 10 and use Windows 11 as my laptop has a 12th gen Intel processor and maybe the scheduler in Windows 11 is more optimized for that. Haven't really noticed any difference at all in terms of day-to-day usability other than the fact that my taskbar is now permanently in chungus mode (I prefer the slim taskbar). But whatever - I'm too old for this shit anymore and prefer to touch grass rather than spend hours 100% optimizing my PC in order to squeeze 0.000001% more productivity out of it. It is was it is.
If anyone here remembers, the original plan was for Windows 10 to be the last numbered/otherwise identifiable version of the OS, with MS switching to a "OS as a service" model, with small, incremental updates being rolled out on a continuous basis.
However, at some point, there were some significant changes made to OS API's, with a lot of legacy surfaces being dropped or changed for security reasons. As these changes could cause significant problems for developers and confusion for users (most people, developers included, do not know if they are on 22H2, 23H1, or otherwise), the powers that be decided that it would make more sense to simply release a "new version" of Windows so that when something went wrong, they could simply ask the developer/end user if they were on Windows 10 or Windows 11. They also went ahead and decided that it would be a good idea to change how things looked so that the end user/support could immediately visually tell what version of Windows they were running.
The new taskbar was, at release (and IMHO continues to be), not feature complete because it was being built on top of a new, more secure internal library which interfaced with the newer, more secure system API's. This was during the COVID years, though, and with "The Great Resignation" the big tech companies all shuffled employees with one another as a lot of devs jumped from one company to another for huge salary increases. Microsoft was not immune from this, and hemorrhaged a lot of talent (while gaining new ones). The problem was that the team that was working on the internal library that the new taskbar relied on basically disappeared completely, and development therefore ground to a halt. This meant that the taskbar team essentially had the rug pulled out from under their feet and were blocked from making the taskbar replacement feature equivalent to the old one because the functionality they needed literally did not exist and would not exist for the foreseeable future.
So, anyway, what I'm getting at here is that the upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11 gets you, essentially, improved security (in a hand-wavey way that you as the end user will never be able to verify because you can't look at the source code), and a fucked up, half-finished taskbar. The latter of these is the only one you will really ever notice, so... yeah...
FWIW I now use Windows 11. I did a fresh install on my laptop earlier this week and figured I should ditch Windows 10 and use Windows 11 as my laptop has a 12th gen Intel processor and maybe the scheduler in Windows 11 is more optimized for that. Haven't really noticed any difference at all in terms of day-to-day usability other than the fact that my taskbar is now permanently in chungus mode (I prefer the slim taskbar). But whatever - I'm too old for this shit anymore and prefer to touch grass rather than spend hours 100% optimizing my PC in order to squeeze 0.000001% more productivity out of it. It is was it is.
my pc cant upgrade to 11. and even if it could, i would wait a year or 2. it looks half baked from where i'm at, and once the UI visibly looks consistent across the board, i MIGHT upgrade a part. but i still don't know what part of mine is holding me back update-wise. help?
My PC Specs
Check that secure boot and ftpm is enabled in bios, a bios update may automatically enable these.
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