While bigger players like Valve are entering the handheld gaming PC market with competitively-priced devices like the Steam Deck, it seems like smaller companies still want to be a viable alternative in this space. A few weeks after Valve announced its own handheld, AYA NEO came up with a new device of its own: the AYA NEO 2021 Pro. Their first device based on the AMD 4500U APU, which we previously reviewed, has been rebranded as the AYA NEO 2021. The China-based company released some information about its new handheld over the last weeks and we now have a better idea about its specs and pricing.

While it packs a similar look to its predecessor, the Pro 2021 model has upgraded internals on practically every front. It is based on the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U with an APU of 8 cores and 16 threads and a maximum frequency of 4.2GHz. It comes with 16 GB dual-channel LPDDR4X RAM at 4266MHz and an NVME M.2 SSD, available in 1T and 2T. The AYA NEO 2021 Pro features a 47Wh battery and with the new AYASpace software, users can quickly adjust TDP on-the-fly. For network connectivity, the devices comes with a built-in Bluetooth 5.0 module and a WiFi 6 module. The triggers are also been upgraded to analog ones and there are three color schemes for the console: Retro Power (which comes with a similar, retro-themed dock), dark star and light moon.

As for the dock, it is said to support up to 4K 60Hz Ultra HD and up to 10 Gbps data transfer. It also has up to 8 expansion ports and PD 1.4 fast charging support.

On the official AYA NEO website, the 1TB model of the AYA NEO 2021 Pro will sell for $1,315.00 (excluding shipping) while the price for the 2TB model has yet to be announced (it's not an option on the website either). It is expected to ship in mid-September.

Other themed accessories have also been announced like the mechanical keyboard, the GaN PD charger with 108W fast charging and a mini docking station. More details about these can be found on the official store page or the Indiegogo campaign's updates. However, pricing for these accessories haven't been announced yet.

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Speaking of the Indiegogo campaign, an update from the company's CEO mentions that those who have backed the first generation of AYA NEO 2021 but haven't had their orders shipped yet can upgrade to the Pro version at an extra cost as shown below (more details in the campaign update):

While the AYA NEO 2021 and Pro versions are pricier than the Steam Deck, hopefully such competition can drive innovation in this space further and it's promising to see that the new management of AYA NEO to come forth with new products and software.

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[Spider_Man]

Nintendo can't upgrade the Switch's GPU without breaking comparability with all existing games because shaders are precompiled. The most they'd be able to do this generation for a Pro would be a beefier CPU and more ram. Fwiw I think the Switch is innovative. In 2017 how many portable hybrid gaming machines were there? Your only choices were a gaming laptop or a Vita, there was no Inbetween. All these devices are copying the Switch's form factor and dock idea. That doesn't make Nintendo better but it does make them innovative.

Wow that one flew right over your head didnt it.

Ill make it simple for you.

Nintendo could have fronted some cash and made something like this from the start.

But yea, ill take your comment and then state why a 4k model would be pointless, what good is running a dumbed down game with crap textures, poor frame rates in 4k.

Same thing why people are laughing at the oled model, using a better screen for what.....

just a means to milk the cash cow, thats all nintedont care about.... keep it cheap but charge full whack, let it print money.

Durrrp.

 

[NyaakoXD]

Nintendo could have fronted some cash and made something like this from the start.

Yeah, they could have, but it's a different time in 2016-2017. The hardware at the time for tablets and such were likely still too costly to sell a portable console at a reasonable price and not to mention NVIDIA hasn't done a mobile chipset outside of the Tegra X1 back then (the only other thing they had was the NVIDIA Shield TV which uses the Tegra X1 chipset). Remember that Nintendo partnered with NVIDIA, so they had to work together on making the console along with building the software API and getting the right pricing down. Of course, it's most likely because NVIDIA had so many Tegra X1's just sitting there and took advantage of selling them with the Switch, but that's just speculation. Portable console gaming didn't exactly get so big until the Switch came to show what it was capable of to more people and so even more folks saw the potential for it. It's been 4-5 years now, so obviously hardware have improved greatly and become more power efficient along with providing better performance that things like the Steam Deck are becoming a thing.

But yea, ill take your comment and then state why a 4k model would be pointless, what good is running a dumbed down game with crap textures, poor frame rates in 4k.

Same thing why people are laughing at the oled model, using a better screen for what.....

Because games can look potentially better on an OLED screen with having more vibrant colors. And is just another option for people to choose to get or not. Basically like the DS to DS Lite or 3DS to 3DS XL. Or the Vita OLED to Vita 2000/PSTV. Plus, it's some people's fault for getting hyped over Switch Pro rumors and set too high of expectations that they got disappointed and "laughing" about it.

just a means to milk the cash cow, thats all nintedont care about.... keep it cheap but charge full whack, let it print money.

Durrrp.

Well, companies aren't anyone's friends. They all want to make money, so that's no surprise.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

It is expansive but are there alternatives?

Because all I am reading here in the comments is little boys with faith on Steam Deck costing MSRP.

Just think, Valve will release a thing in a single country that is desired in the whole universe, and that thing is powered by AMD's current gen tech, and people still believe in MSRP prices.

 

[Kioku]

It is expansive but are there alternatives?

Because all I am reading here in the comments is little boys with faith on Steam Deck costing MSRP.

Just think, Valve will release a thing in a single country that is desired in the whole universe, and that thing is powered by AMD's current gen tech, and people still believe in MSRP prices.

...and you're spreading this nonsense because...?

Not to mention, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

 

[NyaakoXD]

It is expansive but are there alternatives?

Because all I am reading here in the comments is little boys with faith on Steam Deck costing MSRP.

Just think, Valve will release a thing in a single country that is desired in the whole universe, and that thing is powered by AMD's current gen tech, and people still believe in MSRP prices.

Someone sounds butthurt about all this.

Yes, $1300+ is expensive and overpriced with the specs it has. There are easily other alternatives like the OG Aya Neo, GPD Win 3, etc., but with the Steam Deck being priced lower than other competitors, having overall better specs, and being developed by Valve working closely with AMD (unlike the Aya Neo), both of which have built up a lot of reputation to make a name for themselves, it's a lot more appealing to the PC gaming audience.

 

[Xzi]

Because all I am reading here in the comments is little boys with faith on Steam Deck costing MSRP.

Huh? Why would you think they'll change the price at the last second? Even shipping is included in the purchase price, the only fee that isn't accounted for is tax.

Just think, Valve will release a thing in a single country that is desired in the whole universe, and that thing is powered by AMD's current gen tech, and people still believe in MSRP prices.

I mean it sucks if they aren't releasing in your country specifically, but "a single country" is more than a bit hyperbolic. They're releasing in most of Europe, America, and Canada.

Besides, not that I think it's right, but Brazil gets passed over for a whole lot of brand new tech releases, do they not? Are PS5 and XSX even being sold there?

 

[HellGhast]

Looks like companies are starting to jump in the handheld bandwagon.. 1300$ is bloody too much for a handheld device, even with these specs.

Yes $1300 is too expensive, Steam Deck is a much better deal.

Actually Aya Neo has been dabbling in PC based handhelds for some time, I've been seeing hands-on reviews of their handhelds on youtube. Other companies also have pc like handhelds out there with more reviews on youtube, you could try watching a few.

I think Steam Deck(which Btw I can't wait to get my hands on) is the one trying to jump in the bandwagon abit late coz Aya Neo and others have been around abit.

It comes down to this Nintendo Switch is a good idea but Weak and not customizable coz it's an enclosed ecosystem, the Un-Patched Switch is a better Switch but it's still Weak but once jailbreakroken you can install Linux, Android and Homebrew which is cool but its still a weak handheld.

This therefore generated demand, people want a powerful handheld that Steam Deck, Aya etc are willing to give us via a PC based handheld, for me Steam Deck is hella sexy and it comes with ability to use Steam or Epic with no restrictions. And these being PCs we could dual boot Steam OS and Linux without having to hack making them better than the switch.

 

[tabnk]

Totally overpriced.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

Wow that one flew right over your head didnt it.

Ill make it simple for you.

Nintendo could have fronted some cash and made something like this from the start.

But yea, ill take your comment and then state why a 4k model would be pointless, what good is running a dumbed down game with crap textures, poor frame rates in 4k.

Same thing why people are laughing at the oled model, using a better screen for what.....

just a means to milk the cash cow, thats all nintedont care about.... keep it cheap but charge full whack, let it print money.

Durrrp.

Nintendo could have fronted some cash to put 2021 GPUs in a 2017 console?

 

[NyaakoXD]

Nintendo could have fronted some cash to put 2021 GPUs in a 2017 console?

That's not what they meant. They meant that Nintendo could have spent more on the budget to develop a more powerful handheld console from the start. And while yes they could have done that, but technology and hardware from 2016-2017 is a lot different than today's and thinking that they could put specs stronger than the Tegra X1 while also keeping it at a reasonable price would most likely be really difficult at the time. If we look at other similar products like tablets and such at the time, there was most likely no way they could have kept the price at $300.

Also have to remember that developing new consoles takes years of experimenting and work on different hardware and such. With the Switch coming out in 2017, they would probably have to use older hardware from like, I don't know, 2015 (Tegra X1's original release year).

 

[Spider_Man]

Yeah, they could have, but it's a different time in 2016-2017. The hardware at the time for tablets and such were likely still too costly to sell a portable console at a reasonable price and not to mention NVIDIA hasn't done a mobile chipset outside of the Tegra X1 back then (the only other thing they had was the NVIDIA Shield TV which uses the Tegra X1 chipset). Remember that Nintendo partnered with NVIDIA, so they had to work together on making the console along with building the software API and getting the right pricing down. Of course, it's most likely because NVIDIA had so many Tegra X1's just sitting there and took advantage of selling them with the Switch, but that's just speculation. Portable console gaming didn't exactly get so big until the Switch came to show what it was capable of to more people and so even more folks saw the potential for it. It's been 4-5 years now, so obviously hardware have improved greatly and become more power efficient along with providing better performance that things like the Steam Deck are becoming a thing.

Because games can look potentially better on an OLED screen with having more vibrant colors. And is just another option for people to choose to get or not. Basically like the DS to DS Lite or 3DS to 3DS XL. Or the Vita OLED to Vita 2000/PSTV. Plus, it's some people's fault for getting hyped over Switch Pro rumors and set too high of expectations that they got disappointed and "laughing" about it.

Well, companies aren't anyone's friends. They all want to make money, so that's no surprise.

What a load of dribble.

We had portable tablet pc gaming rigs better than this.

Nintendo wanted again to take a slice of the tablet market and hey, why not get nvidia who are already on the market.

Yup, you have the nvidia in a shitendo skin.

Fyi

Gamers dont mind paying for better hardware, fuck me if nintendont put more money in hardware and gave better internal storage, we would happily pay it.

But no, that cost is passed to us so they keep their costs down.

Same again using expensive carts, either dev pays the cost or its a half ass game requiring us to buy an sd card to download it.

Nintendont just wanted to find the best way to re do their wii u idea and the lowest cost.

As for your oled bit, hmmm no sorry a shit weak game at low res is not going to look better on a tiny oled screen, why would i pay more for an oled tiny screen when i own a 65" oled..... better hardware maybe so these inferior games can be optimised maybe.

Ohh no wait, that will cost more than a $10 screen which in turn hikes its prices up to the point people are laughing at cheaptendo.

And yes, companies want to make money but come on, open your eyes, nintendo are always playing catchup, fuck me again, this is their next gen console that followed the wii u which was same gen as ps4 and failed because it was a cheap last gen beefed up.

The switch is again slightly better, but in terms of gens, this would have been their ps5 and ohh look now the others have caught up gen wise, the ps5/sx now their next console so equal to shitendo, shitendo again far inferior.

Yup, all because of a vs gimmick to mask its cheapness, sure nintendont will be needing a new console soon, and like before the switch came out.

You watch it be a beefed up ps4/xbx1x with some bs gimmick, but still inferior to the current gen...... why...... so third parties cant support it with its new aaa titles as it would cost more to have a dedicated team abd it bring in less than it would to simply port the same title across consoles like proven on xbx and ps.

This leaves nintendont to dominate its console with its same old recycled crap.

 

[NyaakoXD]

What a load of dribble.

We had portable tablet pc gaming rigs better than this.

Could you provide examples? Because I don't believe we have Tablet PC gaming rigs that cost around $300 or less and at better specs than the Tegra X1 back in 2017.

Nintendo wanted again to take a slice of the tablet market and hey, why not get nvidia who are already on the market.

Was it the tablet market? Or was it more the portable console market because they took advantage of them being pretty much the kings of portable gaming handhelds like the GB, GBA, DS, and 3DS? I'd say the latter is more likely and they took the opportunity to make a hybrid home and portable console since practically no one else does it well.

Yup, you have the nvidia in a shitendo skin.

Well, it is the Tegra X1, so it technically is more NVIDIA, so I'll give it that.

Fyi

Gamers dont mind paying for better hardware, fuck me if nintendont put more money in hardware and gave better internal storage, we would happily pay it.

But no, that cost is passed to us so they keep their costs down.

Same again using expensive carts, either dev pays the cost or its a half ass game requiring us to buy an sd card to download it.

Nintendont just wanted to find the best way to re do their wii u idea and the lowest cost.

I mean, even if that's the case (considering it's all speculation and assumptions at this point), then they're doing a damn good job at it. And appealing to millions of people in all ages to get the Switch and still having it sell like hotcakes after all this time while surpassing the PS3's sales in just over 4 years and closing in on the Wii.

Sure, "gamers" (lol) don't mind paying for better hardware, but price is still a factor to any person's decision. If the price was higher than $300, then there's also the possibility of less people who would actually buy it.

As for your oled bit, hmmm no sorry a shit weak game at low res is not going to look better on a tiny oled screen, why would i pay more for an oled tiny screen when i own a 65" oled..... better hardware maybe so these inferior games can be optimised maybe.

The smaller screen helps hide the lower res artifacts slightly and does provide better vibrant colors than using a LCD screen. Good for you for owning a 65" OLED, I guess?

Ohh no wait, that will cost more than a $10 screen which in turn hikes its prices up to the point people are laughing at cheaptendo.

You sure sound like you know how much each parts costs. Which you most likely don't.

And yes, companies want to make money but come on, open your eyes, nintendo are always playing catchup, fuck me again, this is their next gen console that followed the wii u which was same gen as ps4 and failed because it was a cheap last gen beefed up.

What catch up? They stopped trying to catch up since the Wii era and beyond. Their last attempt was with the GameCube, but it didn't stand much of a chance against the PS2 and Xbox. So they went with a different approach with the Wii and that sold a whole lot of units throughout its life span with its cheaper price point compared to the PS3/Xbox 360 and appealing to the casual audiences.

The switch is again slightly better, but in terms of gens, this would have been their ps5 and ohh look now the others have caught up gen wise, the ps5/sx now their next console so equal to shitendo, shitendo again far inferior.

Yup, all because of a vs gimmick to mask its cheapness, sure nintendont will be needing a new console soon, and like before the switch came out.

Again, Nintendo hasn't cared that much about having state of the art hardware specs for years now and sure, gimmicks are gimmicks, but if those gimmicks appeal to a wider audience, then it sure is working and millions are enjoying the Switch to this day even after over 4 years.

You watch it be a beefed up ps4/xbx1x with some bs gimmick, but still inferior to the current gen...... why...... so third parties cant support it with its new aaa titles as it would cost more to have a dedicated team abd it bring in less than it would to simply port the same title across consoles like proven on xbx and ps.

People choose to buy whatever consoles they want for whatever games they want to play. So what if the Switch doesn't have the latest AAA titles? (Not like most of them are that great these days, but that's just my opinion...) Clearly, the Switch has proven to be an extremely well sold console that doesn't rely on powerful hardware and AAA games. It does its own thing and pretty much ignoring what the PS5/Xbox Series can get.

This leaves nintendont to dominate its console with its same old recycled crap.

Well, then that's on them. If you don't like what they're doing, then speak with your wallet and just don't buy from them, I guess. But as long as they appeal to what many people like and want, then it may continue in the future. But who knows what will happen in the future? With the partnership with NVIDIA, they may make a completely new console that have the latest state of the art hardware with the best features like DLSS included. But that's something we all have to wait and see in the future.

 

[anhminh]

Oh wow, look at all those Switch Killer.

Whoever put a hit on that console must be pretty loaded to hire that many hitmen.

 

[Bladexdsl]

Oh wow, look at all those Switch Killer.

Whoever put a hit on that console must be pretty loaded to hire that many hitmen.

it deserves it for being such a poor HANDHELD with no games
absolutely nothing on it to look forward to not even MP4. soon as the ps5 comes back in stock i'll be buying a REAL console that can keep up with the market with real games and not just the same shitty mario games and nindies.

 

[pedro702]

this is what the switch should have been

a 1300$ console? are you for real? who would buy that? seriously any console over 500$ just doesnt sell well at all.

if the switch costed 1300 it would flop harder than the virtual boy... it wouldnt even sell a million lol devs would never develop anything for it.

 

[lordofcombo]

What a load of dribble.

We had portable tablet pc gaming rigs better than this.

Nintendo wanted again to take a slice of the tablet market and hey, why not get nvidia who are already on the market.

Yup, you have the nvidia in a shitendo skin.

Fyi

Gamers dont mind paying for better hardware, fuck me if nintendont put more money in hardware and gave better internal storage, we would happily pay it.

But no, that cost is passed to us so they keep their costs down.

Same again using expensive carts, either dev pays the cost or its a half ass game requiring us to buy an sd card to download it.

Nintendont just wanted to find the best way to re do their wii u idea and the lowest cost.

As for your oled bit, hmmm no sorry a shit weak game at low res is not going to look better on a tiny oled screen, why would i pay more for an oled tiny screen when i own a 65" oled..... better hardware maybe so these inferior games can be optimised maybe.

Ohh no wait, that will cost more than a $10 screen which in turn hikes its prices up to the point people are laughing at cheaptendo.

And yes, companies want to make money but come on, open your eyes, nintendo are always playing catchup, fuck me again, this is their next gen console that followed the wii u which was same gen as ps4 and failed because it was a cheap last gen beefed up.

The switch is again slightly better, but in terms of gens, this would have been their ps5 and ohh look now the others have caught up gen wise, the ps5/sx now their next console so equal to shitendo, shitendo again far inferior.

Yup, all because of a vs gimmick to mask its cheapness, sure nintendont will be needing a new console soon, and like before the switch came out.

You watch it be a beefed up ps4/xbx1x with some bs gimmick, but still inferior to the current gen...... why...... so third parties cant support it with its new aaa titles as it would cost more to have a dedicated team abd it bring in less than it would to simply port the same title across consoles like proven on xbx and ps.

This leaves nintendont to dominate its console with its same old recycled crap.

The amount of rage against nintendo here is real.
You strike me as an SDF down to the core.
Eat your heart out ,switch is gonna be around for 2 more years and will probably outsell ps4.
Nintendo has a very different approach to gaming than Sony and Microsoft.

 

[pedro702]

What a load of dribble.

We had portable tablet pc gaming rigs better than this.

Nintendo wanted again to take a slice of the tablet market and hey, why not get nvidia who are already on the market.

Yup, you have the nvidia in a shitendo skin.

Fyi

Gamers dont mind paying for better hardware, fuck me if nintendont put more money in hardware and gave better internal storage, we would happily pay it.

But no, that cost is passed to us so they keep their costs down.

Same again using expensive carts, either dev pays the cost or its a half ass game requiring us to buy an sd card to download it.

Nintendont just wanted to find the best way to re do their wii u idea and the lowest cost.

As for your oled bit, hmmm no sorry a shit weak game at low res is not going to look better on a tiny oled screen, why would i pay more for an oled tiny screen when i own a 65" oled..... better hardware maybe so these inferior games can be optimised maybe.

Ohh no wait, that will cost more than a $10 screen which in turn hikes its prices up to the point people are laughing at cheaptendo.

And yes, companies want to make money but come on, open your eyes, nintendo are always playing catchup, fuck me again, this is their next gen console that followed the wii u which was same gen as ps4 and failed because it was a cheap last gen beefed up.

The switch is again slightly better, but in terms of gens, this would have been their ps5 and ohh look now the others have caught up gen wise, the ps5/sx now their next console so equal to shitendo, shitendo again far inferior.

Yup, all because of a vs gimmick to mask its cheapness, sure nintendont will be needing a new console soon, and like before the switch came out.

You watch it be a beefed up ps4/xbx1x with some bs gimmick, but still inferior to the current gen...... why...... so third parties cant support it with its new aaa titles as it would cost more to have a dedicated team abd it bring in less than it would to simply port the same title across consoles like proven on xbx and ps.

This leaves nintendont to dominate its console with its same old recycled crap.

yeah people would pay 1300$ for a nintendo portable console for sure...


This type of devices same with steam deck dont sell many units, sure they can sell 10 or even 20 million, but for a console that is a flop, any console to be considered average sucess must do 30+ million sales or else it becomes a failure.

you cant make a portable console with these specs and sell it at a consumer friendly price, people just wouldnt pay for this, heck i can see you complaining if nintendo had made a steam deck specs wise console you would complain games are inferior to ps5 and still shit on them lol.

Making something like this just isnt profitable for a console generation, because the sales wouldnt be very big becuase of the huge price on retailers.

 

[subcon959]

Some really dumb things in this thread.. especially the AYA Neo Pro 2021.

 

[Budsixz]

People who sh1t on nintendo are ignorant. Nintendo never has and probably never will go for the latest and greatest hardware. Their selling point is their software or games.
While I agree that if nintendo releases a similar spec'd console to ps5 or Xbox then it could dominate the market, I think their whole point was to keep the price of hardware down as well and maybe they are one of the few who actually might make profits from hardware itself. Others either have too less margin or sell at loss.

 

[anhminh]

People who sh1t on nintendo are ignorant. Nintendo never has and probably never will go for the latest and greatest hardware. Their selling point is their software or games.
While I agree that if nintendo releases a similar spec'd console to ps5 or Xbox then it could dominate the market, I think their whole point was to keep the price of hardware down as well and maybe they are one of the few who actually might make profits from hardware itself. Others either have too less margin or sell at loss.

Nah, making cheap hardware is actually a great strategy that only Nintendo can pull off.

Cheap hardware mean it is easier to sale to casual gamer and family who just want a game console to play with. Those people don't give a fuck about XZY CPU, framerate, RTX, SSD... because they don't even know what it is. What they know is Zelda, Mario and Pokemon are on the cheapest console on market, score.