Is hydroxycloroquine really efficient at treating covid-19?

[Xzi]

Doctors and health experts have long since moved on to other drugs and treatments which show far more promise. Nobody should listen to Mr. "Just Inject Bleach" for health advice. I wouldn't even trust the guy to take care of a pet goldfish for the weekend.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Doctors and health experts have long since moved on to other drugs and treatments which show far more promise. Nobody should listen to Mr. "Just Inject Bleach" for health advice. I wouldn't even trust the guy to take care of a pet goldfish for the weekend.

He said to inject light.

 

[MFDC12]

i agree no efficacy but vaccine do cause autism among other things mostly neurological

They do not, and the 1998 study has been debunked so many times, plus, the controversy is almost only with the MMR vaccine and no other. Care to give your sources? Also, as a person with on the spectrum (aspergers), even if they _did_ cause autism, the fact you'd rather have your child die from an entirely preventable disease than have a kid on the spectrum is honestly pretty... gross.

 

[Seliph]

He said to inject light.

Direct quote from Trump:
"I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs."

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I HAVE MORE MEMES

Putting this out again because this is the reality we live in.

 

[weatMod]

They do not, and the 1998 study has been debunked so many times, plus, the controversy is almost only with the MMR vaccine and no other. Care to give your sources? Also, as a person with on the spectrum (aspergers), even if they _did_ cause autism, the fact you'd rather have your child die from an entirely preventable disease than have a kid on the spectrum is honestly pretty... gross.

nobody dies from those diseases anymore, i rather take my chances
and no it's not just MMR lots of other vaccines contain neurotoxic heavy metals such as mercury and aluminum
FDA is a joke it's a revolving door , my parents and their siblings had those diseases and didn't die
vaccines are an industry it's a business, and like any other they sell you lies to sell your toxic products
another example is the swine flu vaccine form the 70's and the HPV vaccine thay caus a lot worsr than just autism ,like Guillain-Barret syndrome
i rather not ply Russina Roulette with being cripple or paralyzed of scourse they will lie and try and tell you event like that are rare
just like the lie say fluroquinolones are safe and that effects are rare it's all lies and BS
i have permanent neurological damage and since being damaged in 2015 found groups online that have millions of members claiming the same
like ayear or 2 later FDA finally put slightly stricter warning on the but they knew for decades they are unsafe poisons and the doctors to this day ignore the warnings and still prescribe them the same s they did before,
if you want to trust big pharma criminals and the criminal FDA with your health good luck

oh and BTW the vaccine are so safe that the government and the revolving door FDA have given the manufactures total immunity from any and all litigation
so good luck trying to sue them when something happens

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I'm no antivaxxer, but when a vaccine for the Coronavirus is released, I will be waiting at least a month before getting it. Stuff like that needs to be tested.

 

[0x3000027E]

in today's world, you can really find support for anything you want to believe in

Simple, but beautiful statement.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Putting this out again because this is the reality we live in.

ummmm vaccines go through a lot of test before they are available to the public. Phase 1, 2, 3 etc.

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Direct quote from Trump:
"I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs."

In his defense; the disinfectant will kill COVID its just that killing the host is a side affect.

 

[Deleted member 507653]

killing the host is a side affect.

Sign me up.

 

[linnethsilv]

Dr here, hydroxycloroquine does not work period, it raises mortality rates and does nothing to help, i see my patients die left and right, everything is under investigation as there are no guide lines, you can do whatever you want use the treatment that you most see fit, most cases resolve without problem, the problem is with those that develop mild and severe pneumonia due to the cytoquine storm, recommendations stop drinking soda, stop eating junk food, stop smoking and do exercise to get your body mass index below 30.

any questions?

 

[Deleted member 507653]

Dr here, hydroxycloroquine does not work period, it raises mortality rates and does nothing to help, i see my patients die left and right, everything is under investigation as there are no guide lines, you can do whatever you want use the treatment that you most see fit, most cases resolve without problem

Thank you for weighing in with your experience! However, I think in a thread where people are pulling testimonials and research articles, your comment reads anecdotal. Which definitely has its worth but not so much when there are so many other examples in the thread of doctors having contradictory experiences.

the problem is with those that develop mild and severe pneumonia due to the cytoquine storm, recommendations stop drinking soda, stop eating junk food, stop smoking and do exercise to get your body mass index below 30.

I thought the argument for HCQ IS the cytokine storm. Since the cytokine storm is an extreme immune response and HCQ is an immunosuppressive.

(btw u spelled cytokine wrong)

 

[MFDC12]

I'm no antivaxxer, but when a vaccine for the Coronavirus is released, I will be waiting at least a month before getting it. Stuff like that needs to be tested.

I may have had it already, but I am still worried about reinfection since we don't know enough about it so I'll get it anyways - but yeah I'm actually with you, I think I'd still wait a month or two as well. I told my job I am going to continue WFH until I feel safe because I have a condition that gives me a weakened immune system.

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120,000 people globally died from measles last year, what are you talking about? And even if they did, herd immunity is important for the kids who have weak immune systems because maybe your kids won't die from it but the kids with weak immune systems will have a much higher risk. Let's say they didn't cause deaths, measles/mumps/rubella still have long term damaging effects to the immune system.

The heavy metal content in vaccines is miniscule (MMR never had mercury or aluminum, fwiw) and not enough to cause neurological damage. I'll give you the swine flu vaccine, but I've read that it was correlation not causation. I trust doctors advice and peer reviewed studies myself.

I'm sorry to hear about your damage, though. Do you mind me asking what vaccine that caused it?

Let me ask you this, let's say smallpox somehow came back, would you and prevent your kids from getting the vaccine? What about polio?[/QUOTE]

 

[aerios169]

Thank You Doctor. I did not see your post till now.

Whats your opinion on all this false information? Why do you think they do it? What is their end goal?

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I just want the right information, thats all.

But people that have debated me on this site know that I'm willing to accept information that proves whatever I find to be wrong. That's the point of debates right? To learn, to bring something you find and let someone else bring what they find. And I know its good to be skeptical, anything I post here is not final that I will always believe, I can change my mind.

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@Seliph its fine that you were rude. I do the same thing too even though I know I shouldn't. Sometimes I can be calm like I should, sometimes though I dont follow what I preach.

well in my contry people belive that digital thermometer kills neurons, also belive that G5 transmit the virus..... yeah is really stupid, but anyway i belive that people wants a cure even if it is false because they want to feel secure. there is much anxiety, no one wants to die.

At the moment there is not any cure or drug for COVID, please belive only on articles that come from WHO, CDC or Cocrane. Is really anoying that people only belive on videos from youtube, facebook with pseudoinformation.

 

[Deleted User]

Yes h+Z = no covid and if you take it you cant get covid.

These real doctors are working with no masks and arent getting sick.

Wake up people.

Trump Tweeted this shit back in March and people are barely getting wind of it now.

 

[TimPV3]

Ah yes, the doctors Breitbart flew in to spew a bunch of bullshit. Interesting that a PEDIATRICIAN in a strip mall is treating hundreds of Covid patients. Check out her other videos for totally real info on vaccines using alien DNA, and dreaming about sex with demons giving you ovarian cysts.

 

[linnethsilv]

https://www.medscape.com/answers/25...reatment-of-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

A retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 infection in all US Veterans Health Administration medical centers between March 9, 2020, and April 11, 2020, has been published. Patients who had received hydroxychloroquine (HC) alone or with azithromycin (HC + AZ) as treatment in addition to standard supportive care were identified. A total of 368 patients were evaluated (HC n=97; HC + AZ n=113; no HC n=158). Death rates in the HC, HC + AZ, and no-HC groups were 27.8%, 22.1%, 11.4%, respectively. Rates of ventilation in the HC, HC + AZ, and no-HC groups were 13.3%, 6.9%, 14.1%, respectively. The authors concluded that they found no evidence that hydroxychloroquine, with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation and that the overall mortality rate was increased with hydroxychloroquine treatment.

in simple terms it doesn't work, with dexamethasone and methylprednisolone there have been more improvements only and exclusively with patients with the need of oxygen and or ventilation.

citoquina (spanish user).

 

[aerios169]

Yes h+Z = no covid and if you take it you cant get covid.

These real doctors are working with no masks and arent getting sick.

Wake up people.

Trump Tweeted this shit back in March and people are barely getting wind of it now.

dude i work on a hospital who atend COVID ( CMN XXI) we use N95 mask, and special equip for that

my aunt is on the verge of death because she got sick of COVID...... while she was anttending people. i know 3 doctos that past away for this disease. We are triying to fight this shit while the patients doesnt take any friking menansure to keep healty

 

[Deleted User]

dude i work on a hospital who atend COVID ( CMN XXI) we use N95 mask, and special equip for that

my aunt is on the verge of death because she got sick of COVID...... while she was anttending people. i know 3 doctos that past away for this disease. We are triying to fight this shit while the patients doesnt take any friking menansure to keep healty

Yeah sucks how the goverment knows how to keep the people and doctors safe but are trying to surpress it.

Trump is trying to release the ban but the other side is fighting back - 2005 we knew about this HQ+Zinz combo

If anyone has anyone ill from this I suggest you get your hands on the real medicine

HQ 200MG twice weekly is the dose
Zinc is daily value

Good luck and don't fall for all these fake doctors.

Ive been researching this 30 years ladies and gentlemen!

 

[linnethsilv]

dude i work on a hospital who atend COVID ( CMN XXI) we use N95 mask, and special equip for that

my aunt is on the verge of death because she got sick of COVID...... while she was anttending people. i know 3 doctos that past away for this disease. We are triying to fight this shit while the patients doesnt take any friking menansure to keep healty

sorry to hear that, best of wishes to your aunt.