Trump Impeachment: Public Hearings Have Begun

[Marcsoup]

Yet in doing so, do you think his base feels one single bit differently? Do you think they now believe all of the accusations against Trump? Do you honestly think it has changed ANYTHING for either them or for Dems? Nothing has changed. Back at square one. Waste of time. The evidence of his crimes out in public is only evidence to those that believe he is guilty. No ones minds are being changed here, and if they are, it's a VERY small amount of people. I could agree with you if suddenly a large portion of his base started changing their mind, but the fact is that the majority of them are EXACTLY like mororvan. So yes, like I said. A waste of time.

All I was saying was that at the end of the day, the Senate is still doing nothing, so they might as well do nothing AND piss off Trump and his worthless brain dead base at the same time.
Does it accomplish anything of any value? Not really, but I still think it's relatively funny.

 

[tabzer]

Okay buddy. LOLOL!!!! And there are more where these came from. Let's not forget how he said he would be dating her if she were not his daughter, saying it's okay to call her a piece of ass, pictures of him with Epstein & a convicted pedophile, etc. etc. But whatever floats your boat I guess. I mean, there's just SO much proof out there of what an outstanding great & morally sound guy he is. Right?

Everything you said is circumstantial, but what I said is factually accurate.

 

[morvoran]

I just heard some great news today that everyone should be happy about.
Next year after the Republicans retake the house, they will nullify the baseless partisan articles of impeachment which will expunge the crooked demonrats impeachment of Trump off his record and removing this stain and bastardization of our constitution from our republic.
This means everything the Dems did this past year were for nothing other than costing them the House.

I just can't wait for next year when Congress will get back to working for everyone instead of just trying to remove a duly elected president.

 

[Hanafuda]

Except you're pretending to know something about me. I didn't vote for Obama, I didn't vote for Hillary, and I didn't vote for Trump. I am also not voting for a single one of the Dems in the running because I don't like a single one of them. You also seem to think there will be some sort of tears if he is re-elected. Honestly I don't care. Four more years then he's out and there's nothing you can do about it. Then we will see where the tears come from.

So whatever. Keep acting like you know me.

Fair enough. But you've done the same, i.e. assuming there'll be 'tears' when Trump leaves office. He'll be what, 78 years old then? I think he's got some excellent constitutional fortitude for his age, but 78? Time to hang it up.

 

[tabzer]

You also seem to think there will be some sort of tears if he is re-elected. Honestly I don't care.

Honestly.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Everything you said is circumstantial, but what I said is factually accurate.

Factually accurate.

 

[Xzi]

The entire thing went exactly as predicted. No documents and no witnesses allowed into the Senate "trial." Hell, Republicans barely even bothered to mount a defense. "He did it, doesn't matter." There are certainly any number of other articles of impeachment that could've been added, but things would've gone the same in the Senate either way.

Fuck 'em, purple state Republicans will suffer for it in November. Speaking of which, I've been more glued to the results of the Democratic primary race. Bernie now projected to win all but two states, with a 49% chance of winning the nomination in round one (according to 538).

 

[tabzer]

Factually accurate.

What I said about his administration's actions is true and backed by numbers. If you want to refute what I said, be my guest.

If you want to hypothesize how he is just trying to get rid of the competition, you can do that too.

Your response to me had nothing to do with what I actually said. You want to make Trump look bad in response to an actual point I made, as if that changed something.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

What I said about his administration's actions is true and backed by numbers. If you want to refute what I said, be my guest.

If you want to hypothesize how he is just trying to get rid of the competition, you can do that too.

Your response to me had nothing to do with what I actually said. You want to make Trump look bad in response to an actual point I made, as if that changed something.

You rattled off some garbage about Trump being tougher on Pedophiles. I posted pictures that show Trump as a pedophile himself, including towards his own daughter. There's a picture of him with Epstein. There's a picture of him with a convicted Pedophile. It had everything to do with what you actually said. You can post all of the numbers you want buddy. Just because you believe it to be factual, does not make it so. But go ahead and post them. Prove me wrong.

And hypothesize about getting rid of the competition? WTF are you even talking about? You pulled that straight out of your ass.

 

[chrisrlink]

all his base is now are racist neo nazi's and every other lifeform crawling out of the sewer,the middle class republicans are idiots i mean the trickle down effect for tax breaks for the rich are total BS

 

[morvoran]

No documents and no witnesses allowed into the Senate "trial." Hell, Republicans barely even bothered to mount a defense. "He did it, doesn't matter." There are certainly any number of other articles of impeachment that could've been added, but things would've gone the same in the Senate either way.

You must not be remembering the testimony of the 17 (+1) witnesses and the thousands of pages of documents from the house. The house managers even said multiple times that their case was solid and proven without any doubts that Trump was guilty. How could more witnesses make him any more guilty? SMH

Speaking of which, I've been more glued to the results of the Democratic primary race. Bernie now projected to win all but two states, with a 49% chance of winning the n

. Oh, so sorry to tell you this but the DNC is going to screw good ole socialist comrade Bernie again and give the nomination to Bloomberg (or rather, sell it to him). You might as well give up your dream of a socialist America. It isn't going to happen.

 

[Xzi]

How could more witnesses make him any more guilty?

You're right, his guilt was already proven beyond any shadow of a doubt, but there was still new evidence and testimony which came to light between the House proceedings and the Senate trial. And 80% of the American public still wanted a trial with witnesses and documents.

Oh, so sorry to tell you this but the DNC is going to screw good ole socialist comrade Bernie again and give the nomination to Bloomberg (or rather, sell it to him).

Bootyjudge is the corporate shill which Bernie will ultimately have to overcome, not Bloomberg. If Bernie wins 51% of delegates in the first round, there's nothing superdelegates or the DNC can do about it except whine.

You might as well give up your dream of a socialist America. It isn't going to happen.

We already live in a socialist America, it's just the type of socialism that benefits the rich exclusively. A trickle-up economy, if you will.

 

[morvoran]

his guilt was already proven beyond any shadow of a doubt, but there was still new evidence and testimony which came to light between the House proceedings and the Senate trial.

The Dum's could not prove he was guilty in the House and Senate. Unfortunately, in Congress, it doesn't matter how guilty or innocent you are, it all depends on if your party holds the majority. Not one demonrat called for judgement on Trump based on the evidence provided (except for the 3 in the house). In the Senate, they had one traitor who is a never Trumper because he wasn't made Secretary of State.

Bootyjudge is the corporate shill which Bernie will ultimately have to overcome, not Bloomberg. If Bernie wins 51% of delegates in the first round, there's nothing superdelegates or the DNC can do about it except whine.

Just like how Bootyjudge won Iowa, he contributed cash to the voter app they used that screwed up the results. Bloomberg will win the nomination in a similar manner.

We already live in a socialist America, it's just the type of socialism that benefits the rich exclusively. A trickle-up economy, if you will.

Good thing that this "socialist" America we live in today, you can become rich if you work hard enough. In Bernie's and the radical dum's vision of America, only the Demonrat politicians can get rich. Enjoy your free healthcare (if you manage to get care after waiting for all the illegals that get to skip you in line). Too bad you won't be able to afford anything else.

 

[tabzer]

You rattled off some garbage about Trump being tougher on Pedophiles. I posted pictures that show Trump as a pedophile himself, including towards his own daughter. There's a picture of him with Epstein. There's a picture of him with a convicted Pedophile. It had everything to do with what you actually said. You can post all of the numbers you want buddy. Just because you believe it to be factual, does not make it so. But go ahead and post them. Prove me wrong.

First, the pictures don't prove he's a pedophile. Second, Epstein has his picture with a lot of famous rich people who are probably not all pedophiles. If you can get a picture of Trump and Epstein with underage prostitutes, like there is of Clinton, then maybe I can start believing a little in your "good faith" points. If you want to believe Trump's administration is not busting pedophile rings and saving children on a level that causes one to scratch their head in regards to previous administrations, more power to you. I personally think you will be caught.

And hypothesize about getting rid of the competition? WTF are you even talking about? You pulled that straight out of your ass.

Please study what I have said. The busts and prosecutions are a real thing. The only reasons you would attempt to discredit those efforts are if 1)you think Trump is only doing it to monopolize the market of underage sex-trafficking OR 2)you are an advocate of pedophilia.

Since it is clear that you have no clue about the primary, it's safe to assume the latter about you and end the conversation there.

To the others: The thing about @Xzi is that it is personally invested in Trump being guilty/evil, so it never really mattered if there is "more" or "even more" evidence. Every single thing, no matter what happens, will serve as further confirmation of what @Xzi already "knows". Enlightenment into any greater truth of the matter cannot happen without a complete mental breakdown/identity crisis.

 

[Juggalo Debo]

I've come to conclusion that most people using the terms right and left don't really understand what they represent.

I completely agree with you 100%

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wow.... good god fucking close this thread lol Its over..... that's all we have to worry about now...

 

[notimp]

Woo hoo!!! Donald J Trump is still our president, and the sham impeachment was proven to be nothing but a fantasy of the evil Dems to overrule our 2016 election results.

Sorry to all the liberals who were hoping for a miracle that the House dems' lies and mockery of our Constitution would result in an innocent president being removed. Better luck next time (which most likely will be very soon due to the democrats addiction to impeachment hearings).

You realize, that we told you a year ago, that this would be the outcome, when you and two of your far right 'like' supporters, where trying to convince people in here, that you had the fear of god put into you, that someone tried to put your minority (popular vote) racist president away, before the end of the term.

We always told you this was a political process, you had the votes, it was not likely to succeed, it was mainly done for PR reasons (you are now btw. trying actively to control the message of the outcome for), but that yet it wasnt unfair - because what your president did, qualified for at least trying to get him out of office.

The story - that people in here tried to put forward the idea, that this was a legal process or a moral one - and that it would show once and for all 'who is right' - simply isnt true at all. And yet, this is what you are selling here today.

It was actually the entire opposite of what you are claiming.

We told you a year ago, this would be the likely outcome. You ignored everyone, posted thread after thread of emotional agitation, that this was a personal attack on you, that guy, and it had you so much worried.

When we asked why - because you always had the votes - you stopped the dialog.

You are manipulating again.

You are the person, that wouldnt listen, and that was inexplicably worried beyond believe and reason, that this was a conspiracy against democracy - simply because your guy was involved. You told everyone, that the process was unfair, and that they (?) would try to circumvent constitution and the electoral collage, a few months beore the next election. Now that none of this turned out true - you are effing trying to surf high on a 'justice prevailed' message - because the process was politically turned off, just like we always told you that it would.

Now that the result is to your liking, the process all of a sudden isnt the issue anymore, and shouldnt be looked at too closely.

We told you from day one, that this had a low chance of succeeding, and that it was employed for PR in pre election season. Now you have the nerve to tell us, that you were right - because 'you won'.

You are a liar. You are not as dumb as you are playing to be, you are malicious, always trying to sell people emotional truths.You are more than a troll, you are a propagandist.

(Constitution, constitution. Evil democrats. Signaling, signaling.)

You never looked for knowledge or education, you looked to spread prepackaged messaging you got from outlets like 4chan.

You are not the underdog, you never were. Although you always claimed, that you were the suppressed silent majority, and unjustly treated. We always tried to help you understand, you always broke contact.

Now you are making up enemy stories, that never were true for how you were communicated to in this forum. You are an opportunistic liar, misrepresenting our intentions, and what happened in here in the past.

If I were your boss, I would fire you based on your performance this week. (But then you would probably just look around for whos paying top dollar for you to lie for them professionally. Change your avatar and account. Sleep like a baby.)

 

[omgcat]

@morvoran He will remain an impeached president forever, and is so far the only president to EVER have a senator of his own party vote for his conviction in the 243 years of the united states.

 

[notimp]

@morvoran He will remain an impeached president forever, and is so far the only president to EVER have a senator of his own party vote for his conviction in the 243 years of the united states.

But none of that matters.

It would only matter if you'd give your vote away based on appearences. And even then 'he is the only president ever to have a senator vote against him..' is neither logical (so what?) nor will it be something even half a percent of voters would ever worry about.

All of that is made up as well, just to claim a moral victory. If you are debating, prop up the quality of your arguments. Otherwise anyone - with even half decent debating skills will make you look bad.

 

[omgcat]

But none of that matters.

It would only matter if you'd give your vote away based on appearences. And even then 'he is the only president ever to have a senator vote against him..' is neither logical (so what?) nor will it be something even half a percent of voters would ever worry about.

All of that is made up as well, just to claim a moral victory. If you are debating, prop up the quality of your arguments. Otherwise anyone - with even half decent debating skills will make you look bad.

good to know religious conviction and morals don't matter anymore in 2020 America. Kinda makes sense with how things are going though.

 

[Taleweaver]

Anyway, it's over now. Let's try to be decent to each other and stuff again, at least until the next big Orange Man Bad Takedown begins.

Just for the record: you do mean "until Trump does more unconstitutional things", right?

I mean...I've heard from at least three republican senators claim that they don't doubt the facts but didn't consider it relevant enough to remove him from office.

Impeached simply means accused. It was a partisan political attack, it failed.

I beg to disagree. From my perspective, it was a partisan political defense. Which worked fine (go Mitch!!!).

I sort of agree. There are genuine politicians that exist, but party politics is generally cancer.

One day I'm going to put this in a frame, title it "Politics" and submit it to the tate modern.

Okay...not to sound offensive, but at this point it's just your ignorance at work. Take notice: up until Obama, it would've been a valid criticism: democrats and republicans claimed to be different but executed roughly the same agenda.

Nowadays the parties are so far apart that I can't rule out a civil war. This is all but a "we might disagree publicly but just get along fine when no camera's rolling" situation.