Hacking WiiFlow Lite

[Hakaisha]

Using a spoiler tag for your syscheck information will be fine.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Syscheck:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 39659170
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Venezuela (52)
Boot2 v4
Found 168 titles.
Found 52 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256, Info: rev 10): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256, Info: rev 12): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Trucha Bug
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[57] (rev 21006, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[56] (rev 21006, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.10)
Report generated on 11/02/2019.

 

[Hakaisha]

Your Syscheck looks good overall. Having Base 57 installed to both IOS249 and 250, using d2x-v10beta52 should be getting the job done, no matter which one you force at startup.

It's a long shot, and may not work. But, since you're booting the game from an SD card/USB stick, you could try booting up the d2x installer app from Homebrew Channel and installing Base 57, d2x-v10beta53, latest revision to IOS251, and setting WiiFlow to force cIOS 251 on startup (or you can set it for just that game, using the Settings in the Game Selected screen).

D2x_v10Beta53 can be a bit slower to load, but has been known to solve some compatibility issues in specific situations. I only suggest to install it to IOS 251, so that it does not interfere with 249/250, which is typically used by your other loaders by default.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Your Syscheck looks good overall. Having Base 57 installed to both IOS249 and 250, using d2x-v10beta52 should be getting the job done, no matter which one you force at startup.

It's a long shot, and may not work. But, since you're booting the game from an SD card/USB stick, you could try booting up the d2x installer app from Homebrew Channel and installing Base 57, d2x-v10beta53, latest revision to IOS251, and setting WiiFlow to force cIOS 251 on startup (or you can set it for just that game, using the Settings in the Game Selected screen).

D2x_v10Beta53 can be a bit slower to load, but has been known to solve some compatibility issues in specific situations. I only suggest to install it to IOS 251, so that it does not interfere with 249/250, which is typically used by your other loaders by default.

it offers me 3 revisions 21010, 21 and 65535, which one do I go for? Actually, trying the 21010 and 65535 gives out failure.

By any chance you have a wad of this thing, or know where I can get one?

EDIT all three give me failure and I accidentally uninstalled the base IOS when trying to get out of the app.

 

[Hakaisha]

Is your Wii connected to the internet? D2x connects to servers, then makes the cIOS from there. ModMii is also an option, if you want to get a WAD.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Is your Wii connected to the internet? D2x connects to servers, then makes the cIOS from there. ModMii is also an option, if you want to get a WAD.

yeah it is, but I am guessing they might not like I am using google's DNS.

and Modmii isn't working as I want it to.

I am going Page 4>BETA> I type the stuff I want (option 1) and It doesn't does anything.

After a closer inspection it only offers 249 or 250, not 251

 

[Hakaisha]

In ModMii, when you type your selection, it adds it to a download queue list. After you type in your selection and press enter, the page will refresh with your selection added to the queue list. After the page refreshes, type 'd', then press 'Enter' to initiate the download of the queue list.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

In ModMii, when you type your selection, it adds it to a download queue list. After you type in your selection, the page will refresh with your selection added to the queue list. Type 'd', then press 'Enter' to initiate the download of the queue.

Yeah I noticed, but its only offering 249 of 250, not 251, not even NUS downloaded seems to have 251, which is weird.

 

[Hakaisha]

If that is the case, I would go ahead and try the 25057 = cIOS250[57]-d2x-v10-beta53-alt Install that WAD, then force cIOS 250 in WiiFlow Lite. This will at least either confirm or deny if Beta53 is the solution for loading the game from the SD card. This typically still shouldn't break your other loaders since we're still just using slot 250, whereas 249 is the usual default.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

If that is the case, I would go ahead and try the 25057 = cIOS250[57]-d2x-v10-beta53-alt Install that WAD, then force cIOS 250 in WiiFlow Lite. This will at least either confirm or deny if Beta53 is the solution for loading the game from the SD card. This typically still shouldn't break your other loaders since we're still just using slot 250, whereas 249 is the usual default.

Nope, beta 53 also leads to a black screen of death.

Here is what I'm thinking of trying tomorrow: erase the save file from the system menu, then launch the game via geckoOS or Uloader, see if that triggers the instructional video.

Going to let the 4 videos run, just in case.

this did nothing, I wonder if I need the .dol file that uloader found on "alt dol" option

 

[matt!]

Any other ideas?

Does the game still work in your other launchers? Edit: ah, it doesn't.

You should verify your Wii game dump checksum. Just because you dumped it yourself doesn't mean it's a 100% accurate dump. I use Witgui on Mac to do it, but you can do it on command line https://wit.wiimm.de

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Does the game still work in your other launchers? Edit: ah, it doesn't.

You should verify your Wii game dump checksum. Just because you dumped it yourself doesn't mean it's a 100% accurate dump. I use Witgui on Mac to do it, but you can do it on command line https://wit.wiimm.de

This leads me to a question, if the file wasn't good, how come Wiibackupmanager manager didn't throw error? I dumped the game>ran Wiibackupmanager to convert it to .WBFS and it went perfectly fine.

EDIT: Bad dump, wii backup manager can't verify the SHA-1

 

[fledge68]

@Hakaisha @Tetsuo Shima
In the latest commit i added an option you might like.
- added source menu ini option to set flow layout number. under [general] add flow=#. this also applies to tiers.
This will help rhapsodii shima since i noticed the hyperspin layout on first display may not be set to the correct flow.

i also
- added clearing source tiers and tier current button numbers whenever a new theme is chosen.
wiiflow currently keeps track of what tiers have been opened. now when you change themes the tracking will be cleared and restored to base tier.

Also i have some advice for rhapshodii shima. I tried it recently.
1. I suggest putting your source menu files in wiiflow/source_menu/rhapsodii shima so that your source menu only works when the user uses your theme. It looks a little odd when I go back to default theme and its using your images and sourceflow layouts.
2. the Home button does not go to any menu when on a sourceflow. it simply goes back to main (or first) sourceflow. maybe you should just remove it from the top bar image.
3. the blue circled back arrows (back.png). you really shouldn't use those. because wiiflow keeps track of every tier. so if i'm on source menu and i go to hand helds then back to source menu and choose consoles. it will look like this: source menu>consoles because it removes hand helds when i pressed B to go back a tier.
with your back buttons the list will just keep accumulating like this: source menu>hand helds>source menu> consoles and so on. if they do it enough wiiflow may run out of memory. although that would take a very lot.

 

[Tetsuo Shima]

Thanks Fledge, I will follow your suggestions and will update Rhapsodii Shima.

I suggest putting your source menu files in wiiflow/source_menu/rhapsodii shima

uh, sorry. I didn't know source menu files could be placed in subfolders.

the Home button does not go to any menu when on a sourceflow. it simply goes back to main (or first) sourceflow. maybe you should just remove it from the top bar image.

Strange. When I'm pressing home it always sends me to the home menu. But perhaps this is a new feature you recently added

the blue circled back arrows (back.png). you really shouldn't use those....wiiflow may run out of memory

I didn't know this, either. I will remove them.

 

[Tetsuo Shima]

@fledge68 the back arrows were not needed anymore, now that we can alwayss press B to go back.
They were useful for another reason, though: to serve as a visual separator between the start and the end of the flows.
Not a big problem for me to remove them. Or maybe I could try to use a different image and removing magic= and source= from the tier ini.

 

[Hakaisha]

- added source menu ini option to set flow layout number. under [general] add flow=#. this also applies to tiers.
This will help rhapsodii shima since i noticed the hyperspin layout on first display may not be set to the correct flow.

Thank you for this, @fledge68 . I've thought about this a lot, but was never really sure what the solution could be. To avoid these awkward situations, I've tried to just keep my smallflows as simple as possible. With this new change, we can actually coordinate the use of matching background artwork with specific coverflows, without requiring any manual coverflow swapping from the end user to achieve the desired effect.

putting your source menu files in wiiflow/source_menu/rhapsodii shima so that your source menu only works when the user uses your theme.

Wait. Was this possible this whole time? So if I'm understanding correctly, we can have a separate source_menu.ini with its own set of tiers for every theme? If so, this would be a dream come true. I like the idea of having a more simple source menu in Rhapsodii, but using a more complex one in Symphonii and Excelsior. I could even use Tetsuo's originally intended source_menu setup in Rhapsodii Shima, without changing it to fit my own. It would be like having multiple setups on a single Wii console.

3. the blue circled back arrows (back.png). you really shouldn't use those. because wiiflow keeps track of every tier. so if i'm on source menu and i go to hand helds then back to source menu and choose consoles. it will look like this: source menu>consoles because it removes hand helds when i pressed B to go back a tier.

Noted, and will apply this to my next release. @Tetsuo Shima does make a good point about the arrow serving as a visual separator for tier content though. An empty button that does nothing or refreshes/resorts the current tier could possibly be a solution of sorts. Then again, perhaps even those actions may still contribute to memory overflow.

 

[fledge68]

I see your point. you kind of need a way to let the user know they are on a tier and that pressing B won't return them to coverflow but will go back to previous source choices.

the easiest thing i could do is fix the code so you can leave the blue back arrows in but if they are clicked do nothing. you would set source= (to nothing) leave it blank.
or source=back_tier and I'll fix the code that if clicked do the same thing as if B was pressed.

 

[matt!]

This leads me to a question, if the file wasn't good, how come Wiibackupmanager manager didn't throw error? I dumped the game>ran Wiibackupmanager to convert it to .WBFS and it went perfectly fine.

EDIT: Bad dump, wii backup manager can't verify the SHA-1

I don't know. Maybe it doesn't check?

Maybe your disc is scratched so an accurate dump is not possible?

Anyway CleanRIP is the recommended dumper.

 

[Tetsuo Shima]

... or source=back_tier and I'll fix the code that if clicked do the same thing as if B was pressed.

I like this idea very much!
I've just moved all my source menu .ini files to source_menu/Rhapsodii Shima, but now all the tiers backgrounds disappeared (but coverflow backgrounds are still there). Do I have to move the /backgrounds folder there too?

 

[fledge68]

I like this idea very much!
I've just moved all my source menu .ini files to source_menu/Rhapsodii Shima, but now all the tiers backgrounds disappeared (but coverflow backgrounds are still there). Do I have to move the /backgrounds folder there too?

source tier backgrounds should go in wiiflow/source_menu/rhapsodii shima/backgrounds/
or wiiflow/source_menu/rhapsodii shima/backgrounds/rhapsodii shima/
either one should work.