You know that being trans is by far not a mental illness, right? That has been proven 2 years ago or so.
You know who actually has courage? Aurora WrightOP is right. These words have pretty much lost their value because they've been used so vaguely and loosely plus, everyone nowadays who disagrees with the legacy media (and the likes) is a "Nazi", "Alt-Right", "Far-Right" or all three. It's hard to have a discussion these days as folks just end up screaming the typical buzzwords so.. no point in it.
Thanks for having the courage to speak up, OP.
Spot on but I'm no coward myself and Aurora are very similar lol.You know who actually has courage? Aurora Wright
You're all cowards
Those are too heavy sorts of canons you are using.
This has a mutilation angle to it that was introduced by social force ("religious customs") that likely resulted in trauma - then it has a malpractice angle to it as well. This is not an ideal case to show concepts - its multilayered with issues that you would rather want to separate from the topic at hand, if you can.
This old bullshit again funny how the world's top doctors say its not a mental illness funny how the world's leading health organisation says its not a mental illness. Funny how as a transgender woman I had to go through 24 months of screening by psychiatrists to prove that I DID NOT HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS before being allowed GRS.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...r-reclassified-not-mental-disorder/index.html
That was a political decision. They vote on it, and keeping their positions and social pressures most certainly influence the vote. The DSM-5 still says mental disorder.
Usually proper screening is what should be done especially if you go to the surgical route, there’s no going back. The problem is activists becoming sensationalists and saying if you don’t affirm your child to transition they will commit suicide. Which is plain emotional manipulation, not true, and the researchers in the suicide studies they cite talk about the limitations of it.Ok so extremely busy today so don't have a lot of time to discuss this but I just wanted to address a few things.
Yes I do really care about it here in Scotland in my spare time I am a transgender counsellor I have also campaigned successfully for several Scottish laws to be changed for the good of not only trans women but for all woman. I have had personal one on meetings with the British prime minister about other trans issues. My biggest problem though is I care too much and get unnecessarily upset at certain comments or discussions that I have heard a thousand times before and am bored actually answering.
In regards screening I can really only talk about how it's done here in Scotland as not fully up on how the rest of the world does it.
Here in Scotland a trans person must go a minimum of two years assessment with various doctors and psychiatrists before they will even be considered for GRS. Normally it lasts a lot longer than two years round about 4 to 5 years on average. Then you must face a panel of 5 other doctors and you have to unanimously convince them that GRS is necessary for you. It's a one shot deal and if you don't convince all 5 you will never get GRS. Even then if you do convince all 5 they can still delay GRS and send you for more screening or they can block you from ever getting it.
I have no doubt other countries are not as strict and I do wish they followed the Scottish way of doing it. Because here we have one of the lowest regret rates in the world.
This old bullshit again funny how the world's top doctors say its not a mental illness funny how the world's leading health organisation says its not a mental illness. Funny how as a transgender woman I had to go through 24 months of screening by psychiatrists to prove that I DID NOT HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS before being allowed GRS.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...r-reclassified-not-mental-disorder/index.html
Hm.Transgender people suffer from a pervasive mental illness, and as a result they deserve our sympathy. There is no reason to be violent or mean toward them. Still, we should not be expected to affirm their neuroses anymore than we should affirm the beliefs of a schizophrenic who believes himself to be an alien.
By nature's logic, nothing humans do makes sense. Still, there are species who have evolved the ability to change sex, and nearly every species of animal exhibits homosexual behavior. It's a hell of a reach to suggest that no semi-intelligent animal, such as a dolphin, has ever felt as though it was trapped in the wrong body. We can't read their minds, but based on statistics alone it's likely to have occurred way more than once.It was listed as a mental illness for most of human history and was only recently removed as a mental illness for political reasons. It really doesn't make evolutionary/biological sense that someone could be trapped in the wrong body.
By nature's logic, nothing humans do makes sense. Still, there are species who have evolved the ability to change sex, and nearly every species of animal exhibits homosexual behavior. It's a hell of a reach to suggest that no semi-intelligent animal, such as a dolphin, has ever felt as though it was trapped in the wrong body. We can't read their minds, but based on statistics alone it's likely to have occurred way more than once.
Like I said, we can't read their minds, it can't be proven without a doubt either way.Where is the proof that statistics show dolphins have transexual urges?
I can only assume it's because our understanding of things becomes more comprehensive with time. Clinging to outdated research and information is how we get flat Earthers.Why was it classified as a mental illness only to be removed from the dsm?
Several species of birds, amphibians, insects, fish, and other aquatic life.What species has evolved the ability to change sex?
Like I said, we can't read their minds, it can't be proven without a doubt either way.
I can only assume it's because our understanding of things becomes more comprehensive with time. Clinging to outdated research and information is how we get flat Earthers.
Several species of birds, amphibians, insects, fish, and other aquatic life.
Certainly not to the extent that we're able to change reproductive organs on a whim. But had we followed a slightly different evolutionary path it may well have been possible. In any case I think it's clear that sex isn't such a binary issue from nature's point of view.That's a pretty interesting read,but that same article states that humans cannot change sex.I do like the article though so thank you.
I'm not trying to be difficult nor nitpicky. I'm just trying to make sure we're clear.
- It's not particularly relevant to the question of whether or not intersex exists, as I said earlier.
- I'm not sure what you mean specifically by "by design," which makes responding even more difficult.
- "Neither penis nor vagina" is open to interpretation when we're talking about people who are intersex.
Then the answer is yes, not that it's relevant.2. Meaning, able to do so unless affected by something else such as an unrelated disease or illness that caused the inability to reproduce.
Don't tell me what I mean. Some individuals who are interesex have genitalia that is neither male nor female.3. "Open to interpretation" I mean, isn't all of this? So basically, you mean "no."
Then why didn't you just say "yes?"Don't tell me what I mean. Some individuals who are interesex have genitalia that is neither male nor female.
Neither the WHO nor the DSM classifies being transgender as a mental disorder.For anyone that still thinks that transgendism isn't defined as a mental disorder.
It turns out that the WHO has reclassified transgender people to change them from having a mental disorder to having a lessor disorder under the panel's sexual health chapter (mainly to reduce stigma). It won't be put into effect until 2022.
So the WHO up until today and continuing until 2022 classify it as a mental disorder (I was unaware of this because I don't care about the WHO).
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/health/who-transgender-reclassified-not-mental-disorder/index.html
The DSM-V still categorizes transgender people having a mental illness, but the severity of the diagnosis had been reduced from what the DSM-IV had it as (again to reduce stigma).
You do realize that it has to be defined as a medical or mental condition for insurance companies to pay for fixing or treating the problem? If it wasn't some sort of disorder than you'd have to pay for it yourself, but that's not the only reason why it's classified as such (just pointing out to the people using my money to get their treatment might not want to have it become normal otherwise they're going to have to pay for it themselves without the help from my taxes).
Because that depends on one's interpretation.Then why didn't you just say "yes?"
Neither the WHO nor the DSM classifies being transgender as a mental disorder.
Please give a detailed breakdown of what your own personal taxes are being used for exactly. You have zero evidence that any of your own personal taxes have ever been used to treat transgenders just as I have zero evidence if my own taxes are being used to treat drug addicts or being used for any other practice I disagree with.For anyone that still thinks that transgendism isn't defined as a mental disorder.
It turns out that the WHO has reclassified transgender people to change them from having a mental disorder to having a lessor disorder under the panel's sexual health chapter (mainly to reduce stigma). It won't be put into effect until 2022.
So the WHO up until today and continuing until 2022 classify it as a mental disorder (I was unaware of this because I don't care about the WHO).
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/health/who-transgender-reclassified-not-mental-disorder/index.html
The DSM-V still categorizes transgender people having a mental illness, but the severity of the diagnosis had been reduced from what the DSM-IV had it as (again to reduce stigma).
You do realize that it has to be defined as a medical or mental condition for insurance companies to pay for fixing or treating the problem? If it wasn't some sort of disorder than you'd have to pay for it yourself, but that's not the only reason why it's classified as such (just pointing out to the people using my money to get their treatment might not want to have it become normal otherwise they're going to have to pay for it themselves without the help from my taxes).