Hacking Is there any interest in raising a prizepool for developing IOSU prizepool

[KiiWii]

We could always do what PSXscene do and have competitions where the winner of the most outlandish mod, or useful hax win cash prizes, so a general DONATE button would be required and a member of Admin would have to be burdened with the task of not stealing it.

 

[EarlAB]

We could always do what PSXscene do and have competitions where the winner of the most outlandish mod, or useful hax win cash prizes, so a general DONATE button would be required and a member of Admin would have to be burdened with the task of not stealing it.

*cough*not @p1ngpong*cough*

 

[nCadeRegal]

A good person to take it to would be our good old friend will over at wololo.net. he has handled many instances the same as this and it turned out right for everyone. He is very reputable, I can ask him personally if you would like. He did one for Vita, there were some great prizes given out for rejuvenate. I think it wss over 2 grand.

 

[ajd4096]

Can I collect if I release a hardware hack?

 

[ARVI80]

Majority of true devs, I believe, are not into development of this field for cash or prizes, they are in it for the challenge alone.

I think this approach would be treading on thin ice and could easily offend, it could also hinder the development of iosu. The reason I think this could hinder development of iosu alone is because Devs would unlikely release anything related, risking any credibility or being accused of only doing so because suddenly a prize is up for grabs. Development is more about ego than money grabbing and the money grabbers are usually slated by good old honest Devs themselves.

However, I love the idea of monthly prizes for homebrew comps only. I think it would attract more people of this field to learn with an insentive. Any exploits or security related development should definately be excluded, including cfw's.

 

[eddiejo6]

Can I collect if I release a hardware hack?

In my opinion i dont think it should count, if this s going to benefit the community then it nneds to be something most people can do. Most people cant solder or doesn't have thin enough solder tips to solder onto the NAND.

 

[Dvdxploitr]

The problem with a prize pool for an exploit is, they may see this as a new trend...create an exploit for a future console/handheld/smartphone/tablet and not release it until a certain amount is met...then people that are unable to donate will feel screwed by this....

 

[KiiWii]

@crediar did this sort of thing for quadforce didn't he?

https://gbatemp.net/threads/crediar-releases-quadforce-2-0.347158/

Perhaps he can be coaxed out of the shadows for some cheddar?!

 

[Ashell]

Just buy the game... Like really, if you are thinking,"I could get 50 games for 50$ if we all donate..." You know what, you are never going to play all 50 games. You probably wont even really finish 5 games. You are better off just going on ebay and buying a couple used games.

The one thing I would l like is a Bluray player app, but its never going to happen. Maybe if some one ported moonlight the NVidia streaming program, that would be cool. Maybe someone could "flick the switch" to turn 3d stereoscopic on. But if you "donate" for IOSU, you really have no promise that any custom apps you want will happen.

 

[Datalogger]

No, I wouldn't donate and no one should.
The people that already have a stable iosexploit don't want money for it.
The people that have one and would sell it must of stole it and are scum of the earth.

The people (few) that are trying to re-create it will give it away as soon as they know it won't brick your WiiU.
(and it should definitely not be released as "AutoBoot" that requires changing NAND)

 

[eddiejo6]

The problem with a prize pool for an exploit is, they may see this as a new trend...create an exploit for a future console/handheld/smartphone/tablet and not release it until a certain amount is met...then people that are unable to donate will feel screwed by this....

That's a good point, I will give you that

 

[Jackall4BDN]

That's a good point, I will give you that

This is the first of the contra-points i can actually see happening and understand happening and not just being about some kind of fake pride or people being stupid sellouts...

i mean seriously, "people suddenly developing now that there is a price involved"...
Oh those immoral bastards, to think of a moneypool that was created out of the users OWN initiative and free will as an motivator to work on this stuff hours, weeks and even months on end...
Because EVERYONE has the right to be hindered by such a normal thing like private, financial reasons and to have something as rudimentary as a life EXCEPT for scene devs.
I don't want to insult anyone who said this, because that is actually the way a LOT of people would think and a thing that could really discredit them. But let's just think for a minute about what kind of Kindergarden the modernized mindset of today turned into...

 

[Datalogger]

But you have to understand that the "scenes" died long ago, about the same time that "private scenes" like HR came along.

It's now turned into the "We did this, here's the SHA1 to prove it, and you can't have it!" BS.

In the real days of the "scene", it was all about tagging something to prove your Team got it first, then releasing it public to prove it.
(I go back to 110 baud phone coupler modems and the BBS scenes with the Commodore PET/C-64 - long before ego's got involved in this hobby)

It used to be a scene group showing their "Team's strength" and a competition to see who could release a new game or new console hack the quickest.

Now it's more like saying "we gots this, you can't have it and we're gonna rub your nose in it" kind of deal.

This is why most people are gone and now almost nothing is left but the "How can I play this game for free?" kind of thing, instead of "We got Linux to run on both the PPC and the ARM on the Wii-U first, and here's the code so you can do it too.!!"
(Project Zero anyone?)

 

[Jackall4BDN]

But you have to understand that the "scenes" died long ago, about the same time that "private scenes" like HR came along.

...

This is why most people left and now and nothing is left but the "How can I play this game for free?" kind of thing, instead of "We got Linux to run on both the PPC and the ARM First!" , and here's the release so you can do it too."
(Project Zero anyone?)

Except for that this kind of reduction to the primitive stuff only happened to the WiiU, both the 3DS and PS4, not to mention the Vita (or more or less PSP aka ePSP) are still getting their fair attention and brewing.
There has been a steady change in diversity, tho on each and every plattform of every generation, the Commodore was FULL of brew, the NES had close to none back in the day, the SNES is STILL getting some, the N64 had and has none at all afaik, the Gamecube had some, the Wii EXPLODED from it and the WiiU seems to suffer from the fact that it has vWii more then it gains because everyone sees it as a reason that actual native homebrew isn't worth it even tho there is incredible potential, even the more with unity4wiiu. I could continue with Sony and their back and forth but it was similar.

 

[KiiWii]

Except for that this kind of reduction to the primitive stuff only happened to the WiiU, both the 3DS and PS4, not to mention the Vita (or more or less PSP aka ePSP) are still getting their fair attention and brewing.
There has been a steady change in diversity, tho on each and every plattform of every generation, the Commodore was FULL of brew, the NES had close to none back in the day, the SNES is STILL getting some, the N64 had and has none at all afaik, the Gamecube had some, the Wii EXPLODED from it and the WiiU seems to suffer from the fact that it has vWii more then it gains because everyone sees it as a reason that actual native homebrew isn't worth it even tho there is incredible potential, even the more with unity4wiiu. I could continue with Sony and their back and forth but it was similar.

Hey, hey, hey....N64 had (some) brew; doom port, dexanoid, funnel cube, snes emu (alpha), SMP music player, and NACHO64 to name a few!

These days people like Saturnu and chilly willy still make great things that are compatible with real hardware.

 

[weatMod]

why not it went so well for 3ds chip decapping

 

[pwsincd]

Before gba became a magazine it used to run a homebrew bounty competition . There was some good things to come from that on the wii . Now we care more for aaa game wanky release date delays and such...

 

[Whatnoww]

The only way to get any current IOSU release, is to placate the egos enough for it to get released, I don't think money will be the solution ...

Actually, other than being able to install apps in the NAND, or access USB, which I am not 100% convinced can't be achieved with kernel anyway, there is no need for IOSU really.

Wasn't IOSU absolutely necessary for USB access

 

[brienj]

Wasn't IOSU absolutely necessary for USB access

If found that there are some games that can access it, so if they can access it ...

 

[Whatnoww]

If found that there are some games that can access it, so if they can access it ...

But that the system/game itself accessing through normal means, not the kernel exploit. It's like saying that since Dance Revolution can access the USB port on the Wii Mini, that it can be hacked to access the USB port.

meh.