Hacking Gateway support for Firmware 9.0 – 9.2 Coming

[Friendsxix]

Maybe GW have unlocked the long hidden source of mystical energies and are using it to run roms on 9.2. This is an entirely plausible alternate albeit equally idiotic explanation.

You can counter anything if you wish to. Unfortunately you're using illogical counters.

Based on that retort, I am going to assume you either A are a troll, or B you are terrible at arguing. And I certainly hope for the former.
You can't just claim my logic is wrong without an explanation. Though, judging by your past explanations, that, too, will be questionable in quality at best.

 

[Doran754]

Based on that retort, I am going to assume you either A are a troll, or B you are terrible at arguing. And I certainly hope for the former.
You can't just claim my logic is wrong without an explanation. Though, judging by your past explanations, that, too, will be questionable in quality at best.

As much as I hate to say it for all the people on 9.2 but I seriously hope its not a kernel exploit now just to prove him wrong. Infact I hope they were talking complete and utter shit. At one point Kenny you say I'm not saying this is definitely true, then in the next post you're saying so It's definitely a kernel exploit.


At the end of the day, who the hell cares. What are you gaining by speculating so much, for the record you're not even speculating anymore you're passing off your opinion as fact and thats not speculation. Just because you're doing it using logic doesn't make it any different. Logic is different with each person. I'm sure you see the logic in defending your posts and insisting to everybody that it absolutely definitely has to be a kernel exploit because someone in China took a shit today, but I don't see that logic. You have absolutely no way of knowing what, If any, exploit GateWay has. No matter how much you try and reason with logic that you do. The only way you could know is if you were part of team gateway, which you are not. If you are. GIZ ME SUM KERNEL EXPLOITZ.

 

[gamesquest1]

*snip*

i think his logic goes like this, "my new post man must have brown hair because my last postman had brown hair and NOBODY has any proof otherwise which means i am undeniably correct unless you can prove he doesn't", applying a small bit of flawed logic to part of the process doesn't mean its correct even if you do use the work "LOGICZZZ"

 

[SimoxTav]

This below is the post from the other thread relevant to the support of 9.2 before it was officially announced on the front page of the website.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/reply-fr...port-3ds-v9-2-0-20.374127/page-4#post-5159348

Just to underline what it could be missed (quoted from the post):

We want to add: There is plenty of 4.5 firmware and below 3DS available. We
recommend people to trade their non-compatible console with a compatible one, it
is the best solution in the short term."

From my PoV it is only relevant to the opportunity to continue to play with your Gateway+3DS while the new version is developed and released to public. My 2 cents.

 

[guitarheroknight]

Sky3ds: Support any 3DS system version(including the newest V9.2.0-20J). Hardware based since it basically emulates a retail card with no current possibility of further upgrade.
GW: Supports system Firmware 9.0.0-20 / 9.1.0-20J / 9.2.0-20 natively!. Software based since its a digital update, ergo they found another loophole aka exploit.

This being said I dont think GW ripped off anyone with their sudden announcement.
The reason why they said not to update could be because the features on the new exploit are not the same as the features the 4.x exploit has since its all new, but one thing is for sure - we will have rom emulation with a very high probability of no restriction like Sky3ds has. Future updates may come as they did on the 4.x exploit. Also I could be wrong about mostly everything I wrote and they manage to port all the features the 4.x exploit has.

 

[KennyMckormick]

As much as I hate to say it for all the people on 9.2 but I seriously hope its not a kernel exploit now just to prove him wrong. Infact I hope they were talking complete and utter shit. At one point Kenny you say I'm not saying this is definitely true, then in the next post you're saying so It's definitely a kernel exploit.


At the end of the day, who the hell cares. What are you gaining by speculating so much, for the record you're not even speculating anymore you're passing off your opinion as fact and thats not speculation. Just because you're doing it using logic doesn't make it any different. Logic is different with each person. I'm sure you see the logic in defending your posts and insisting to everybody that it absolutely definitely has to be a kernel exploit because someone in China took a shit today, but I don't see that logic. You have absolutely no way of knowing what, If any, exploit GateWay has. No matter how much you try and reason with logic that you do. The only way you could know is if you were part of team gateway, which you are not. If you are. GIZ ME SUM KERNEL EXPLOITZ.

I can see I have cause confusion with my wording. What I meant was based on current info, it is definitely a kernel exploit. It might not be a kernel exploit in the end when new information surfaces.

i think his logic goes like this, "my new post man must have brown hair because my last postman had brown hair and NOBODY has any proof otherwise which means i am undeniably correct unless you can prove he doesn't", applying a small bit of flawed logic to part of the process doesn't mean its correct even if you do use the work "LOGICZZZ"

What the what? It's more like my new postman has some brown silky strands on his head, hairs are silky strands. He must have brown hair. I see you have gone completely off the rails by trivializing everything I have to say.

 

[gamesquest1]

I can see I have cause confusion with my wording. What I meant was based on current info, it is definitely a kernel exploit. It might not be a kernel exploit in the end when new information surfaces.




What the what? It's more like my new postman has some brown silky strands on his head, hairs are silky strands. He must have brown hair. I see you have gone completely off the rails by trivializing everything I have to say.

you on crack?
what part of "you cant just say something is true because you dont know otherwise" dont you understand, you where even ranting at other people for doing the exact same thing as you i.e speculating

anyways i'm not doing to debate the matter you are speculating just as hard as everyone else here if not more, so don't try act like your not as its just pathetic

 

[Danjal]

Geez. It's not speculation when you're deriving the only possibly outcome based on the information at hand. Speculating means guessing what may or may not happen using the information provided or using the lack of information.

Duo8, I made a series of deductions based on what GW has provided so far. Everyone else are making guesses based on what GW has not said so far or they are selectively choosing their favored outcome when there are heaps.

Your assumption is that you possess all the information and that therefor your deduction is correct.

IF you had all the information then your deduction would be quite sound.
However you don't possess all the information as Gamesquest1 points out - and therefor you're overlooking or ignoring potential alternatives.
Making your deduction less than perfect.

I can see I have cause confusion with my wording. What I meant was based on current info, it is definitely a kernel exploit. It might not be a kernel exploit in the end when new information surfaces.

TL;DR - you don't have all the facts.
Your deduction is based on incomplete information.
Its based on facts - just not ALL of the facts. Because not all of the facts are known to us at this point in time.


By all indications and explanations on these boards, SKY3DS has found a way around the kernel problem.
Who is to say that Gateway isn't utilizing a similar approach?
Its already been pointed out by others that it wouldn't be the first time that a flash card creator did futureproofing by overdesigning their cards so they could be expanded with a greater range of functionality at a later date.

You don't know 100% certain what Gateway can/can't or does/doesn't do.

Sky3ds: Support any 3DS system version(including the newest V9.2.0-20J). Hardware based since it basically emulates a retail card with no current possibility of further upgrade.
GW: Supports system Firmware 9.0.0-20 / 9.1.0-20J / 9.2.0-20 natively!. Software based since its a digital update, ergo they found another loophole aka exploit.

There is a potential for things getting lost in translation. Wouldn't be the first time that two people used words in a different manner.

For all we know Gateway does use a similar mechanic as SKY3DS - only is in the process of adapting it to their own card so it can support a greater range of functionality.
The reality being - we simply don't know what it is they're doing.

While it is true that GW specifically told people to upgrade to 9.0~9.2 - the assumption there is that they won't support lower versions.
Much like the assumption that they told people to stay on 4.x purely because the 9.x version will have less functionality.

Again, we lack their reasoning for giving these suggestions. And lacking that information, they could have completely different reasons for doing so than that people have assumed thus far.

 

[AfroJackX]

off topic but does anyone know a place that sells gateway 3ds in the usa. I would like to get one by Christmas.

 

[gamesquest1]

off topic but does anyone know a place that sells gateway 3ds in the usa. I would like to get one by Christmas.

more on topic by the last few pages you can have a look at the gateway official resellers list, or somewhere like this
http://www.3dsgamerworld.com/gateway-3ds-card-for-3ds3ds-xl-p-9.html
nice and cheap and ship from several places including the US so delivery times are 2-5 days,

 

[AfroJackX]

more on topic by the last few pages you can have a look at the gateway official resellers list, or somewhere like this
http://www.3dsgamerworld.com/gateway-3ds-card-for-3ds3ds-xl-p-9.html
nice and cheap and ship from several places including the US so delivery times are 2-5 days,

thank you

 

[weatMod]

Couldnt have said it better.

wait what? what is all this chatter about DSTWO? did i miss something? , this all moving too fast for me
did supercard DSTWO team announce some new card for 3ds?, or update for the dstwo?
someone please post a sauce

 

[Danjal]

wait what? what is all this chatte4 about DSTWO? did i miss something? , this all moving too fst for me
did supercard DSTWO team announce some new card for 3ds?, or update for the dstwo?
someone please post a sauce

There's a thread someone made based on an unconfirmed and not necessarily reputable source that DSTWO's team Supercard is working on a new card that offers 3DS game functionality.
Nothing solid yet.

 

[OuahOuah]

You mean that SuperCard "company" would make a 3DS copied linker of GW or Sky3DS ? lol
Anyway, their DS linker is da best but nothing seems able to beat the GW mafia for now

 

[Queno138]

Schrödinger Gateway's Cart.

The only way you'll find out, is to open the box.


Telling 4.X users not to update means either:
1. the solution is unstable
2. the solution does not use emunand
3. the solution will not be in public yet, so continue staying on 4.x so we get to play our games presently.


it's not that much a big deal.

We waited forever for a flashcart,
and then eons has passed and they finally implemented multi-rom

(bet some of ya forgot the single rom, single sd card days already).

So now, let's just board the hype rayquaza and wait again.

 

[weatMod]

You mean that SuperCard "company" would make a 3DS copied linker of GW or Sky3DS ? lol
Anyway, their DS linker is da best but nothing seems able to beat the GW mafia for now

hopefully it would be a dual mode card in one, but hopefully soon we wont need it, hopefully we will be able to run everything from the 3ds SD card
i have a feeling that the new GW exploit will not use DS mode and therefor will not break the exploit by running DS mode stuff

 

[AfroJackX]

One more off topic question, is bestr4i3ds.com a legit website?

 

[OuahOuah]

A dual card would be... cool.
Imagine a DS card that could launch DS and 3DS ROM...
Can't imagine the price though o.O
20$ to produce, sold 90$ ? lol

 

[gamesquest1]

One more off topic question, is bestr4i3ds.com a legit website?

well i think they are, but idk, the general rule i go off is to type the website address and "scam" etc into google and see what turn up

 

[Idaho]

A dual card would be... cool.
Imagine a DS card that could launch DS and 3DS ROM...
Can't imagine the price though o.O
20 to produce, sold 90$ ? lol

The best thing would be to be able to launch DS games from .cia files, smealum once told me on twitter that it'd be possible...