Homebrew RetroArch - A new multi-system emulator

[Hielkenator]

I stand corrected. I didn't think to test the FBA core, but I'll definitely test some games. Snes9x Next, VBA Next, Genesis Plus, Nestopia on the other hand all work very well, but the fact remains some cores are broken Sorry you have to go through this bullshit.

Ah no problem!

 

[the_randomizer]

Ah no problem!

Is there anything I can do to help test more thoroughly? Like the FBA core, the Nestopia speed issues? ETC? I have an NTSC camera

 

[Wiimpathy]

Wiiuse library isn't perfect for sure. For instance, there are known issues for unofficial classic controllers : http://gbatemp.net/threads/latest-emulator-and-libogc-with-3rd-party-classic-controller.217245/
However, it looks like other standalone emulators haven't this bug with official pads.
Anyway, thanks for the update.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

Don't you think it's a bit strange that a) out of all homebrew programs, this bug only seems to affect retroarch and b) the "held buttons" problem also affects gamecube controllers (which aren't read via wiiuse) ?

It's very simple -

Do you have a pull request for this yes or no?

if not, I don't want to hear from you Kthnx.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

I'll restore FBA to the previous version - newer FBA versions keep getting bigger and this makes things no longer fit into the Wii's small amount of RAM.

 

[the_randomizer]

Sounds like a plan

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

FBA crashing when switching cores looks like a problem with the Salamander DOL which is used for launching another core - it's quite a big DOL.

Anyway, we have received zero cooperation ever from the Wii/GC scenes. There's been lots of talk from the likes of Emu_kidid and others that 'oh you could just do this and that and you could run all CPS2 ROMs on a Gamecube, blablaa' - but nobody has ever bothered DOING anything, not just TALKING about it. It's all so predictable. Everybody wants to talk a BIG GAME - but nobody wants to do JACK SHIT.

We came in, we gave all our sources out - we didn't hold ANYTHING BACK (unlike Wii64, unlike tons of others who held onto their 'private forks' - which BTW is a GPL LICENSE VIOLATION) - and did we ever get any collaboration from this insular Wii crowd? No - the argument then became 'oh I don't like SP's attitude' (ie. Tantric) which is just a big copout for not wanting to contribute to stuff not made by yourself.

Ekeeke did make some patches for Genesis Plus GX libretro but he never bothered either trying to give me some patches for RetroArch GX either. Open source exists because it's meant to be 'for collaboration' - not to take sides in some knitting circle and go 'I won't help you out because I don't like the way you look blabla' or 'you are not part of my IRC posse'. Hell, I sent patches bsnes' way as well even though byuu hates my ass and has blocked me from even visiting his website. When it comes to a project you like - it doesn't matter if you like the figurehead or not behind it - you contribute for the project's sake.

Anyway, the ball is in your court. I no longer feel like working much on the Wii/Gamecube side of things because whatever improvements you try to make, it is never good enough for you people anyway and it will always results in more and more bitching. No dev in here wants to help either - so given that and focusing on platforms where I can actually be reasonably sure I am working with something that has been verified and tested by a big enough community - I focus on platforms that have some life in them like Android, iOS, PC and others.

Wake me up when you - as a scene - can get your act together and want to contribute instead of just bitch. Until then, I'm out.

 

[edwardbirkholz05]

Of course nobody wants to help you - you're a dick.
You've been slinging mud at libogc, wiiuse and random people that you think are "accepted masters" for ages about this controller problem, and now you expect somebody else to come along and fix your broken shit for you?

 

[Wiimpathy]

It's a bit sad because you made great things. Not surprising though. Your first answers here were spitting on previous works. Then, you blamed DevkiPPC/libogc.
No sane developer will help you. Emu_kidid's work is pretty good. By the way, Wii64 source code is here : http://code.google.com/p/mupen64gc/
There's also Not64 : http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10974
The diff is in the archive. It uses NAND virtual memory which you can use for Neogeo core.

Others tried to give you a hand (tueidj, marcan, jacobeian) but apparently it's useless.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

Of course nobody wants to help you - you're a dick.
You've been slinging mud at libogc, wiiuse and random people that you think are "accepted masters" for ages about this controller problem, and now you expect somebody else to come along and fix your broken shit for you?

So who might you exactly be sir and why should you matter?

And how would you know my "shit" is "broken"?

Please walk the walk for a minute now instead of just talking the talk.

And then you say I'm the 'dick'. I'm telling you, all these underground console scenes - the vermin is always the same.

 

[DJPlace]

woah man... holy fucks on a shit sandwhich... nothings ever perfect... i don't think no one's going care for a homebrew screen for an almost dead system maybe? i'm not sure... but that's my guess i guess everyone hates each other on the wii homebrew side of things... let's hope for a fix for you all...

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

It's a bit sad because you made great things. Not surprising though. Your first answers here were spitting on previous works. Then, you blamed DevkiPPC/libogc.
No sane developer will help you. Emu_kidid's work is pretty good. By the way, Wii64 source code is here : http://code.google.com/p/mupen64gc/

Nice try but that source is from 2010 - it isn't a reflection of the code they've held on their private servers for years now (and BTW - that IS a license violation and no - just sharing it with gligli from the 360 scene is NOT GOOD ENOUGH).

You know that this is bullshit dude - don't try to pretend like it isn't. A GPL violation IS a violation whether it comes from your favorite "Wii devs" or not.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

It's a bit sad because you made great things. Not surprising though. Your first answers here were spitting on previous works. Then, you blamed DevkiPPC/libogc.
No sane developer will help you.

You read what you want to read. And apparently you read it selectively too.

LikeEmu_kidid's work is pretty good. By the way, Wii64 source code is here : http://code.google.com/p/mupen64gc/
There's also Not64 : http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10974
The diff is in the archive. It uses NAND virtual memory which you can use for Neogeo core.

And why should I invest that time given the amount of hostility around here? See, I can play this game too. It's not my loss if your precious Wii can't run Neo Geo games.

Others tried to give you a hand (tueidj, marcan, jacobeian) but apparently it's useless.

'Tried to give me a hand' - like what? Tueidj doesn't even believe in open source dude - you have to "ask his permission" to use his code snippets. Anyone with any understanding of any open source license would tell you that is "poisoning the well" right there.

I'd say this entire "scene" is a cancerous shithole. But nice job in trying to frame it as if I am the problem.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

There's also Not64 : http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10974

And where is the source for Not64? NOWHERE.

Thanks for proving my point.

EDIT: I'll retract that - there was a source patch in the binary you linked to. Even still - this is 2014 - public repos are an absolute requirement - a source patch is just not a serious proposition at all if you want collaborative development.

And I'd have to wonder against which base this should be applied against. If it's Wii64 - the last sourcecode release is from 2010 - so that would be an ancient version based on an already ancient version of Mupen64. There has been a TON of progress in mainline Mupen64 Plus since then - so that is a big waste of time ultimately to be basing a 'fork' around.

 

[Wiimpathy]

Ok, I give up. I agree with open source etc...
But, is there issue with controllers in standalone genplus-gx ? What did eke said to you ?

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

Ok, I give up. I agree with open source etc...
But, is there issue with controllers in standalone genplus-gx ? What did eke said to you ?

He looked at the code and saw nothing obviously wrong.

But obviously, my "shit" is "broken" according to the great and almighty "edwardbirkholz05" - even though he can't tell me HOW it is broken.

 

[Wiimpathy]

Last post. Have you looked at the not64 zip ? It's only a patch/diff but it's there.

 

[edwardbirkholz05]

It's broken because it doesn't work, duh. But nice try getting someone to fix what you're too inept to figure out... reminds me of the time you confused sin with cos and tried to blame wiiuse for that too.

 

[the_randomizer]

He looked at the code and saw nothing obviously wrong.

But obviously, my "shit" is "broken" according to the great and almighty "edwardbirkholz05" - even though he can't tell me HOW it is broken.

So he likes to bitch, that's his deal. No one's forcing him to use RetroArch, and if it bothers him so much he should fix it his damn self or use another emulator.

It's broken because it doesn't work, duh. But nice try getting someone to fix what you're too inept to figure out... reminds me of the time you confused sin with cos and tried to blame wiiuse for that too.

Dude, you're the only one bitching about such trivialities. Don't make your problem someone else's, either don't use RA anymore, take the source code and fix it yourself, or shut your gob. Your bitching isn't resolving anything. Knock it off. I'll take a programmer's word over yours. If you have an issue, report said issue instead of tearing other people down.

 

[LibretroRetroArc]

Last post. Have you looked at the not64 zip ? It's only a patch/diff but it's there.

You can read my response to it in the edit of the previous post I made. It's still pretty worthless though in the grand scheme of things - what you SHOULD do instead is do what I did with mupen64plus libretro - rebase against Mupen64plus mainline right now - and most importantly- make it a public repo.

BTW - if I am "so hard" to work with and I'm such an "asshole" and all this jazz - how come I have no such difficulties with other emu devs who are - you know - not even "porters" in the straight sense of the word? Just some food for thought.

Like it or loathe it, I did all of you a huge favor by doing RetroArch for Wii. It's a project meant for collaborative development. Your scene's devs not adopting it is ultimately your own destruction right there - since I don't see many devs still giving a crap about the Wii at this point. Like it or loathe it, you might need me more than I need you guys.