I don't see your point. If I am not satisfied with how things are being done, and have reason to divorce myself from a project due to personal conflict of interest, isn't it entirely reasonable to retract my support?
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I don't see your point. If I am not satisfied with how things are being done, and have reason to divorce myself from a project due to personal conflict of interest, isn't it entirely reasonable to retract my support?
Not as defined by most rules of investment. You might be able to bring some legal action if you think your investment was grossly misused (typically things like they took your money and used it go on holiday or something) but "I want out" is typically not an option save for selling your shares/stake to someone else.
But as you have already pointed out, that's not how Kickstarter works. There are no "shares" to be sold, only a commitment of funds under an agreed upon contract based entirely on trust. I believe that contract has been grossly violated, and I want my part in the contract returned to me.
Shares, stake, many types of nontraditional reward structure... much the same thing really. That said kickstarter may not count as a true investment (mainly as there are others doing the crowdfunding model to provide people with actual shares and taking care of the investment side of things) in the proper legal sense so you might have some more options, though aside from them being foolish enough to set up a means to return the money out of the goodness of their hearts I do not like your chances.
If you do decide to try to get a refund then do keep us informed of what goes as I would be interested to know what happens.
If you do decide to try to get a refund then do keep us informed of what goes as I would be interested to know what happens.
I don't really agree with the "grossly violated" part, personally my issue is that less about how it was violated at all, and how the concerns about that violation were addressed. It really wasn't that big a deal at first, but the way they lied and refused to own up to her mistakes just kept compounding the damage.
Like, if she just apologized for misleading(even unintentionally), and addressed people's concerns instead of feeding their paranoia by ignoring, provoking, and banning them, i doubt the problem would be nearly this bad.
I probably won't try to get a refund because I don't feel it's a big enough problem for me to pass up on the rewards, but i can definitely understand the frustration.
Comcept does offer the service of processing refunds, but so far has rejected all claims that didn't donate through amazon. (Amazon forced them to refund some, not all. The disctinction why is still unclear)
But for those people, they went to their bank and canceled it. This can hurt your credit score though so make sure it's worth it!
Like, if she just apologized for misleading(even unintentionally), and addressed people's concerns instead of feeding their paranoia by ignoring, provoking, and banning them, i doubt the problem would be nearly this bad.
I probably won't try to get a refund because I don't feel it's a big enough problem for me to pass up on the rewards, but i can definitely understand the frustration.
Comcept does offer the service of processing refunds, but so far has rejected all claims that didn't donate through amazon. (Amazon forced them to refund some, not all. The disctinction why is still unclear)
But for those people, they went to their bank and canceled it. This can hurt your credit score though so make sure it's worth it!
I am going to wait to see how this plays out before resorting to pulling out completely. My Mighty Number still has yet to arrive, which limits my ability to be involved in the discussion on the official site(though considering things as they are, it would probably not matter anyways), and attempting to discuss the matter anywhere else has already been met with rageposting cries of sexism, so my options for my voice to be heard are currently about one, that being this site. I will keep you updated if and when I begin my quest for a refund.
Issac: My knowledge of this matter only began today, so when I refer to the violation of trust, I am referring to the entire incident as it stands now as opposed to initial reactions/hyperbole/panic. There is no excuse for the complete lack of professionalism, maturity, or basic respect displayed by this person in all stages of this incident, and bar their complete removal from the project come the end of the year, I will be withdrawing my support.
Ok, now I'm considering getting a refund. It's obvious at this point she's just grasping to punish those who don't like her.
She also banned someone for "NSFW" content, yet advertises her tumblr which is almost entirely NSFW artwork. This person was also someone who was vocal about his dislike of her. I refuse to be afraid of being a banned from a forum i essentially PAID for because some power abusing mod
Welp, it's been fun and all, but I'm getting off Dina's wild ride. There's a Steam sale going on and I've got gifts to buy, so I can find my $20 a better home.
Don't worry, Dina, it's alright. Really, it's been
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I feel very bad for all those who backed this game. Hopefully Inafune will do something about this eventually.
Okay I'm out, not tolerating this crap.
tl;dw: Member points out a contradiction in their moderation of NSFW content, gets banned, then afterwards everyone agrees it was a contradiction, mods correct it, but still consider the accusation as an attack on another member/hate speech and leaves him banned.
Inafune clearly either has no idea what the hell is going on, or doesn't care. Either way, I'm done. This level of incompetence makes Microsoft look good. Sorry Megaman, but you've been left to die by your creators yet again. New boss, same as the old boss.
At this point I'm inclined to start up a fan project just to spit in Capcom AND Comcept's faces...
Yes, she's a backer. But she's also a moderator/community manager in charge of relaying information between the backers and the developers. She and 8-4 are destroying the atmosphere intended for this, and in general doing their jobs poorly. Not even on a subjective scale like ginger being hate speech, but an objective one too. They JUST now figured out how to delete threads/posts 2 days ago, and only learned how to ban people soon after Dina came.
The forum format itself is also god awful, it's a mess trying to navigate it.
While this probably won't effect the game much, as the "And YOU will help make this game!" part of the pitch was always almost entirely for the ascetics for donating, the fact they're treating people taking their moneyback with just ignoring them shows they don't deserve my money.
There was also a person named Forte banned last night for essentially making a goodbye thread, they didn't even ban him properly and now he's essentially untouchable because they deleted the part of his user data that ACTUALLY banned him. I'm not dealing with incompetence compounded by power abuse.
The forum format itself is also god awful, it's a mess trying to navigate it.
While this probably won't effect the game much, as the "And YOU will help make this game!" part of the pitch was always almost entirely for the ascetics for donating, the fact they're treating people taking their moneyback with just ignoring them shows they don't deserve my money.
There was also a person named Forte banned last night for essentially making a goodbye thread, they didn't even ban him properly and now he's essentially untouchable because they deleted the part of his user data that ACTUALLY banned him. I'm not dealing with incompetence compounded by power abuse.
Indeed I can, because it's clear that now that he has the money, he no longer cares to check in with the fans in any meaningful capacity, or he would have been well aware of this clusterfuck and, yanno, actually done something to fix it. It's not like it's a secret, even ED has a page dedicated to chronicling this mess.
They've yet to address the issue, so either she's keeping this information from them, or they just don't care. In the latter case, they don't deserve the money anyway. In the former case, if she's fired for this gross misstep, then they can keep my money.
Example of Forte's not-ban. No username and no mighty number like other accounts, this means he has no account he can be banned from and is currently antagonizing the mods. (This is the image that got Kuroi, user from the video above, banned)
All they can do is delete his posts right now. It's hilarious. Though it's my understanding that his experience with this forum type let him open a backdoor, so it seems like how they ban EVERYONE has this exploit, and he was just the first to use it.
Edit: Actually, a bunch of past banned users are back using this exploit, and spamming this. I don't 100% agree with it, but it's not like the mods are on any higher moral standing.
Wait. There's an UNSTOPPABLE UPRISING because THE BAN CODING IS BROKEN.
Oh sweet lord above, this just got FUN.
Oh sweet lord above, this just got FUN.
It really says a lot about the competence of a moderation staff when not only are you banning people for not breaking rules, but you're also not actually banning them.
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