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New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
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New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
The level design in NSMB2 is every bit as good as that of classic 2D Mario--if there's a flaw, it's that the graphics should be more like Rayman (drawn instead of polys), which I think is where a lot of people banging on NSMB get hung up since the NSMB games look a lot more sterile than their 2D forerunners.Both.
New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
Funny, because most people considering the games of the NSMB series better than the original 2D titles. Better level design, better gameplay, better power-ups and themes, yeah. And comparing Mario Galaxy to a game like NSMBW is just stupid.
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New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
Funny, because most people considering the games of the NSMB series better than the original 2D titles. Better level design, better gameplay, better power-ups and themes, yeah. And comparing Mario Galaxy to a game like NSMBW is just stupid.
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New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
Funny, because most people considering the games of the NSMB series better than the original 2D titles. Better level design, better gameplay, better power-ups and themes, yeah. And comparing Mario Galaxy to a game like NSMBW is just stupid.
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New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
Funny, because most people considering the games of the NSMB series better than the original 2D titles. Better level design, better gameplay, better power-ups and themes, yeah. And comparing Mario Galaxy to a game like NSMBW is just stupid.
Than most people are retards.
Gahars said:As for your second point... no. Obviously the gameplay differs, but basic questions like "How fun is it?" or "Do I feel like I have to keep playing?" still work as points of comparison.
Do you HAVE to start an NSMB-defense argument in EVERY THREAD? We already have at least one user restarting the same old argument in other threads (who I won't name)"PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE!" How's that nostalgia going for you? SMW is a bit overrated. Yeah, I want the NSMB series to take after that over SMB3, and I think SMW is the best 2D Mario before the 2000s, but games like NSMBU already kicks its ass in its own game. And your analogy is really dumb.
Gahars said:As for your second point... no. Obviously the gameplay differs, but basic questions like "How fun is it?" or "Do I feel like I have to keep playing?" still work as points of comparison.
Considering that 2D Mario and 3D Mario has different standards, value, and content, yes, making any comparison is stretching and really stoopid.
I will admit that NSMBU looks shit tons better than the other NSMB games, I'm excited for it. The only thing I don't like about it though is the music, I hate the NSMB music. But the game also needs challenge.Both.
New Super Mario Bros. U isn't a true entry in the 2D Mario games?If the Wii U was getting the next true entry to the Mario games (the successor to Galaxy 1 and 2), then I'd have more trouble making that call. It isn't, though, so I don't.
I'd say no. The NSMB games (at least the ones I've played) feel more like an offshoot or spin-off than a true followup to something like Super Mario World.
Now, they are by no means bad, but I think that they're a bit lackluster when compared to other Mario titles (2D and 3D). It just doesn't feel like Nintendo brings their A game to the NSMB series.
Funny, because most people considering the games of the NSMB series better than the original 2D titles. Better level design, better gameplay, better power-ups and themes, yeah. And comparing Mario Galaxy to a game like NSMBW is just stupid.
Than most people are retards.
"PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE!" How's that nostalgia going for you?
SMW is a bit overrated. Yeah, I want the NSMB series to take after that over SMB3, and I think SMW is the best 2D Mario before the 2000s, but games like NSMBU already kicks its ass in its own game.
And your analogy is really dumb.
Gahars said:As for your second point... no. Obviously the gameplay differs, but basic questions like "How fun is it?" or "Do I feel like I have to keep playing?" still work as points of comparison.
Considering that 2D Mario and 3D Mario has different standards, value, and content, yes, making any comparison is stretching and really stoopid.
Why must you always make me hungry?NSMB, it's not bad by any means, it's just safe. It's like vanilla ice cream. Vanilla ice cream isn't bad, it's just vanilla. There's nothing inherently special to it and it's not unexpected. But I don't always want vanilla ice cream. It's always there as a go-to ice cream, you know what to expect and it's never really bad. You just want to try something new, something daring, and something original. Rayman Origins is like... I dunno, a really good ice cream with a lot of awesome stuff in it.
*Clapclapclapclapclap*NSMBU looks more of the same, I don't want to say the same things that I already said a thoushand times.
I think I just made my point pretty clear, you may not agree, but you already know my point of view.