Brand New Mario Party and Pokemon Coming to the Wii

[Hells Malice]

"They made two Pokémon I dislike, therefore the whole game sucks."
(Though I do agree that Vannilite family generally looks bad.)

He only showed two, but he could basically have posted pictures for 90% of the latest pokemon generation, and about half of previous gens. Even second gen started to lose it

 

[KingVamp]

Even if it a misunderstanding, it is coming sooner or later.

 

[Deleted-236924]

"They made two Pokémon I dislike, therefore the whole game sucks."
(Though I do agree that Vannilite family generally looks bad.)

He only showed two, but he could basically have posted pictures for 90% of the latest pokemon generation, and about half of previous gens. Even second gen started to lose it

And the first gen as well.
I mean, a pile of sludge?

I agree that the Pokémon from Gen V and Gen IV don't look as good as the ones from earlier generations did, though.
But they look alright to me, and that certainly isn't a "game-breaking problem."

 

[stanleyopar2000]

3D (or enhanced graphic) fucking pokemon. NOW

no more excuses for this flat sprite fighting bullshit

other pokemon clones have done it. (fossil fighters, Dinosaurs Clash of Giants, Zoids DS etc) NOW DO IT.

and stop making the main character look like a small speck!...give him shape for the love of god! Like fossil fighters graphics style at least!!

 

[klim28]

3D (or enhanced graphic) fucking pokemon. NOW

no more excuses for this flat sprite fighting bullshit

other pokemon clones have done it. NOW DO IT.

and stop making the main character look like a small speck!...give him shape for the love of god! Like fossil fighters graphics style at least!!

With AR support

 

[machomuu]

What they need to do is stop making new pokemon for a generation or 2 (or altogether) and make a game that's focus is on it's story and gameplay, that way I can only see pokemon getting better.

Can I say "graphics too" without bringing upon myself lynching?

ib4 GRAPHIX DUN MAKE A GAEM DURR HERP!

I agree, they waste their time on designing several animations for 100+ pokemon each when they should be making cleaner, nicer, and more improved graphics. They'd capture the attention of more gamers as well as make Pokemon an all around better series if they did these things, but as long as the younger gamers don't care, it's looking to be a distant dream...

 

[stanleyopar2000]

What they need to do is stop making new pokemon for a generation or 2 (or altogether) and make a game that's focus is on it's story and gameplay, that way I can only see pokemon getting better.

Can I say "graphics too" without bringing upon myself lynching?

ib4 GRAPHIX DUN MAKE A GAEM DURR HERP!

I agree, they waste their time on designing several animations for 100+ pokemon each when they should be making cleaner, nicer, and more improved graphics. They'd capture the attention of more gamers as well as make Pokemon an all around better series if they did these things, but as long as the younger gamers don't care, it's looking to be a distant dream...

make the character in this graphic style =>

(or somewhat like it)

and make the pokemon rendered like this

and this will be on the 3DS(compared to the 1st gen DS screens up here) so it should look wonderful. so NIntendo, get off your lazy ass and quit recycling the same crap that gamers like me are getting fed up of!!!

 

[Foxi4]

I was actually relatively suprised when throughout the whole of the DS's lifetime there wasn't a single full-fledged 3D Pokemon game. It's not like they "couldn't" create one - at the end of the day, there are only whole "2" models on-screen during a fight, *surely* the DS has enough RAM to carry that much. Even the characters wouldn't have to be so diversly different, some texture work would do wonders.

If Monster Rancher could do it then I don't see why Pokemon wouldn't work out.

 

[machomuu]

Not to say that I disagree, but I think a 2D to 3D think is a big decision, after they take that step, there's no going back. They would have to leave behind a lot of what they established with the first 5 games and all the spin-offs (well, maybe not the spin-offs, and it'd change the Pokemon Universe forever. It's more a matter of change that a matter of upgrading.

That said, the way things are looking they probably will go 3D, and chances are the games will be much more expansive than they ever were. And there will be remakes. Lots of remakes. Whether that's a bad thing or not, I'm not sure (but a 3D RBG remake would be nice).

 

[stanleyopar2000]

I was actually relatively suprised when throughout the whole of the DS's lifetime there wasn't a single full-fledged 3D Pokemon game. It's not like they "couldn't" create one - at the end of the day, there are only whole "2" models on-screen during a fight, *surely* the DS has enough RAM to carry that much. Even the characters wouldn't have to be so diversly different, some texture work would do wonders.

If Monster Rancher could do it then I don't see why Pokemon wouldn't work out.

check my post above, Dinosaurs Clash of Giants, Drone Tactics (Konchu Wars), Zoids DS (jap) and even some really really fucking old DS beetle fighting games (jap) had this "3D" style.

its the fools and tools that don't care and go herp derp over a pokemon game because "its pokemon" and "its new" that makes Nintendo lose interest in further improvements.

why improve something when you will still make money?

 

[MakiManPR]

What they need to do is stop making new pokemon for a generation or 2 (or altogether) and make a game that's focus is on it's story and gameplay, that way I can only see pokemon getting better.

Can I say "graphics too" without bringing upon myself lynching?

ib4 GRAPHIX DUN MAKE A GAEM DURR HERP!

I agree, they waste their time on designing several animations for 100+ pokemon each when they should be making cleaner, nicer, and more improved graphics. They'd capture the attention of more gamers as well as make Pokemon an all around better series if they did these things, but as long as the younger gamers don't care, it's looking to be a distant dream...

Well they did completely new 3D models for PokePark/PokePark 2. I wish the new Pokemon Game(main series) have 3D models like those. I also like the 3D models of PokeDex 3D.

 

[Thesolcity]

I was actually relatively suprised when throughout the whole of the DS's lifetime there wasn't a single full-fledged 3D Pokemon game. It's not like they "couldn't" create one - at the end of the day, there are only whole "2" models on-screen during a fight, *surely* the DS has enough RAM to carry that much. Even the characters wouldn't have to be so diversly different, some texture work would do wonders.

If Monster Rancher could do it then I don't see why Pokemon wouldn't work out.

check my post above, Dinosaurs Clash of Giants, Drone Tactics (Konchu Wars), Zoids DS (jap) and even some really really fucking old DS beetle fighting games (jap) had this "3D" style.

its the fools and tools that don't care and go herp derp over a pokemon game because "its pokemon" and "its new" that makes Nintendo lose interest in further improvements.

why improve something when you will still make money?

I would argue its more about sticking to tradition. Pokémon (The main series) has always been a 2D thing and they've recently started to include 3D models in the overworld. Change something too much and you may lose your loyalty base. Which would mean the spin offs were only a test.

@Machomuu Holy crap dude, you're back.

 

[Foxi4]

I highly doubt that moving from 2D to 3D would cause losses in the "loyalty base" as you call it - Nintendo just released a console that natively displays *3D* and it's likely that they did it for a reason, so how about utilizing it?

I remember playing Red and Yellow on my Gameboy Colour, thoroughly enjoying it... and then I saw Stadium and my pants were full of a back then unknown sticky substance.

After being fed the same formula of top-down plus sprites only over and over again several times, I lost interest.

*DO NOT BE AFRAID OF 3D. DO NOT BE AFRAID OF PARTICLE EFFECTS. THEY ARE GOOD. THEY LOOK AWESOME. THEY SHORTEN DEVELOPMENT TIME.*

I can understand the attachment to "2D sprites", but I could also argue "Why are we using sprites? Vectors looked so rad on the Vectrex. I want Vector graphics back.". Besides, the two aren't mutually exclusive. The Pokedex could consist beautiful, high-def sprites instead of models, amirite?

 

[machomuu]

I was actually relatively suprised when throughout the whole of the DS's lifetime there wasn't a single full-fledged 3D Pokemon game. It's not like they "couldn't" create one - at the end of the day, there are only whole "2" models on-screen during a fight, *surely* the DS has enough RAM to carry that much. Even the characters wouldn't have to be so diversly different, some texture work would do wonders.

If Monster Rancher could do it then I don't see why Pokemon wouldn't work out.

check my post above, Dinosaurs Clash of Giants, Drone Tactics (Konchu Wars), Zoids DS (jap) and even some really really fucking old DS beetle fighting games (jap) had this "3D" style.

its the fools and tools that don't care and go herp derp over a pokemon game because "its pokemon" and "its new" that makes Nintendo lose interest in further improvements.

why improve something when you will still make money?

I would argue its more about sticking to tradition. Pokémon (The main series) has always been a 2D thing and they've recently started to include 3D models in the overworld. Change something too much and you may lose your loyalty base. Which would mean the spin offs were only a test.

@Machomuu Holy crap dude, you're back.

Nah, I just visit from time to time. You'll see me now and again, but I won't be really active until October, this is an exception, though : P

 

[MakiManPR]

I highly doubt that moving from 2D to 3D would cause losses in the "loyalty base" as you call it - Nintendo just released a console that natively displays *3D* and it's likely that they did it for a reason, so how about utilizing it?

Why would they lose? The 3DS sold 4.5+ millions in 2011. More than the Wii and DS in the same amount of time. I'm pretty sure kids will go crazzy when they see Reshiram & Zekrom in full 3D

 

[stanleyopar2000]

I highly doubt that moving from 2D to 3D would cause losses in the "loyalty base" as you call it - Nintendo just released a console that natively displays *3D* and it's likely that they did it for a reason, so how about utilizing it?

Why would they lose? The 3DS sold 4.5+ millions in 2011. More than the Wii and DS in the same amount of time. I'm pretty sure kids will go crazzy when they see Reshiram & Zekrom in full 3D

pokemon = it FUCKING PRINTS MONEY!! and we don't need to CHANGE ANYTHING, just release the same stuff over and over, but just make more pokemanz!...

 

[shakirmoledina]

5 millions units sold by the end of the month in which these two games get released, maybe june or september.
what i like about nintendo is that every system they release must have a zelda and now also a mario party. never a bad game to have

 

[Thesolcity]

5 millions units sold by the end of the month in which these two games get released, maybe june or september.
what i like about nintendo is that every system they release must have a zelda and now also a mario party. never a bad game to have

Mario Party DS was fun except the CPUs were too hard (like always).

 

[gamefan5]

5 millions units sold by the end of the month in which these two games get released, maybe june or september.
what i like about nintendo is that every system they release must have a zelda and now also a mario party. never a bad game to have

Mario Party DS was fun except the CPUs were too easy.

Fixed.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Mario Party DS was fun except the CPUs were too hard (like always).

Who the hell plays Mario Party with CPUs? That's like the loneliest thing I've heard in recent memory.

I never really saw the point of Mario Party on the handhelds. it seems kinda stupid to have a party game in a non-party environment. I'd much rather just have a mini-game compilation tacked onto a different Nintendo game.