Wii Successor: "Project Butterfly"?

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[Hielkenator]

What about HVD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
They can hold up to 6TB of Data something that could hold that much data surely should be used for the future of gaming, with everything getting so graphically intense and all. Like MGS4 i heard that only just fit on a Dual layer Blu-ray which is 50GB.

Well actually most of the storage used nowadays is filled up by video in games. NOT actual code or graphics. But eventually it will happen.

 

[Yuan]

What about HVD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
They can hold up to 6TB of Data something that could hold that much data surely should be used for the future of gaming, with everything getting so graphically intense and all. Like MGS4 i heard that only just fit on a Dual layer Blu-ray which is 50GB.

MGS4 real size is about 30GB IIRC, the rest is just redundant data to improve loading times. Anyway HVD is not a reality yet. I think 50gb or 100~128gb (BDXL) is more than enough for next gen.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

What about HVD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
They can hold up to 6TB of Data something that could hold that much data surely should be used for the future of gaming, with everything getting so graphically intense and all. Like MGS4 i heard that only just fit on a Dual layer Blu-ray which is 50GB.

Holy shit 6TB sounds a lot lol.
Well with all the technology available, I am sure Nintendo/Microsoft or any company will come up their own storage for next gen.
Up to 100GB is probably best fot the next gen.
(nintendo can limit themself to 20

lol... they arent the most intense ones out there)

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

No blu ray was developed by Sony/Philips and Pioneer back in 1995.
Like I said get up to date.

I never said they weren't, but Blu-ray is owned (In part) by LG and several other companies. It doesn't just belong to Sony.

 

[Hielkenator]

What about HVD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
They can hold up to 6TB of Data something that could hold that much data surely should be used for the future of gaming, with everything getting so graphically intense and all. Like MGS4 i heard that only just fit on a Dual layer Blu-ray which is 50GB.

Holy shit 6TB sounds a lot lol.
Well with all the technology available, I am sure Nintendo/Microsoft or any company will come up their own storage for next gen.
Up to 100GB is probably best fot the next gen.
(nintendo can limit themself to 20

lol... they arent the most intense ones out there)

Not this gen no...

 

[CannonFoddr]

This new console is planned to be something that last for LIFE. Instead of buying a new console every year a new generation comes up, all you need to do is buy a new component and just upgrades it

Single unit with upgradable parts..... I have one of those already, it's called a PC.

Funny that - I thought the same thing.... although I also thought about the good old Megadrive & it's 'modular upgrades'

Spoiler

CD (Optical) Drive

32-bit addon

Modem

[GameGear ??] Adaptor unit

Multiplayer Adaptor

 

[Hielkenator]

Owners of blu ray rights.... Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Time Warner, Walt Disney.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

Owners of blu ray rights.... Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Time Warner, Walt Disney.
No LG?
You probably forgot about LG

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[chartube12]

blu rays haven't reached the max amount of space they could hold yet. The last time I checked the most possible gb theory w/o the new experimental coating was 250 gb. That's alot of space for a portable disc. But yeah this Nintendo. Like others said they'll probably go with the hologram virtual disc they patented a year or 2 ago. Using such new tech would diffidently hold back a new system from the public.

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

I should also mention Sony owns a share in dvds too. Since the original wiis had dvd drives, Nintendo would be breaking the law if it was illegal. So there's always the chance wii 2 could have a blu-ray drive.

 

[FAST6191]

I am not convinced of the need for higher capacity optical media just yet- nice but still far from mandatory especially if you stop listening to audophiles and their video brethren for a moment and play with some good compression and are content to remain paddling at the shallow end of the graphics pool (and/or can toy with some procedural generation).
Speaking of such things MS also sit on a few boards for video standards although the wii managed to get away without playing DVD video so that might be less useful.

This is to say nothing of download components- XBLA has already seen a few texture packs for download.

Re modular upon thinking about it a bit more I reckon I could welcome that as long as they have a reasonably open and some people could to with it. Sadly Nintendo are only slightly ahead of MS' present strategy (see third party 360 stuff needing a license pretty much to exist) in this regard.

 

[Bladexdsl]

lol the next console will NOT have brd you can put that rumor to bed right now i can bet both my nuts on that. BRD is sony and big n never uses competitors hardware (unlike SOME companies)

 

[Delta517]

Single unit with upgradable parts..... I have one of those already, it's called a PC.

True

The only thing that differs consoles from PC are the games.

There are always some rumours saying that Wii 2 is going to have better graphics than PS3 and 360, Blueray support... Its getting kind of boring

 

[Deleted member 473940]

I am not convinced of the need for higher capacity optical media just yet-

Nintendo devices may not require higher capacity optical media, but I am sure MS needs it for next gen.
Or you would prefer having 8 Disc Games released on the next Microsoft console o.O?

 

[Bladexdsl]

Or you would prefer having 8 Disc Games released on the next Microsoft console o.O?

that's easy to solve: stop cramming the disc with fucking cut scenes!!

 

[coolness]

is there more news about the project?

 

[doyama]

Or you would prefer having 8 Disc Games released on the next Microsoft console o.O?

that's easy to solve: stop cramming the disc with fucking cut scenes!!

It's kinda already happening though. Already we see developers going for in-engine cutscenes, FMV is somewhat going away now that there are robust tools for devs to create pretty cinematic experiences with the engine.

However I think we need higher capacity storage simply because of the AMOUNT of textures that will be rendering in the near future. As technology improves the size and amount of textures that can be rendered simultaneously is increasing. Also we as customers want more vibrant and varying experiences. The days of giving people "Brown castle, brown castle, and revenge of the brown castle" or "concrete, underground concrete, broken concrete" as the 'environments' are probably going to be smaller (Crysis 2 is a great example of making an urban environment not look grey. Grey needs to stop being the brown of yesteryear). I hope with more textures we can see much more visually appealing and realistic environments.

 

[TheDarkSeed]

To me, blu-ray support is a given. It's the current disc standard, and for Nintendo to continue using dvds all the way in 2011/2012 would be archaic. The projector idea sounds a bit iffy, but strange/cool ideas are to be expected with Nintendo, so who knows.

Microsoft still are.

The 360 uses dvd-dl and the console came out years ago anyway.

So? Surely they could have updated with the release of the slim, blu-ray drives are backwards compatible after all.

What would be the point in that if they wouldn't be able to use the drives for both games and as a bd player.
It wouldn't be too good of an investment from a business standpoint.

 

[FAST6191]

+1 to FMV comments- were it not for FMV (which I already argued could be compressed significantly more than it has been) I do not think I have seen a game this generation that a bit of time and effort could not have happened on two discs and most of them quite happily one disc. I would love to see one long enough and varied enough to justify it but it has not happened.

"are probably going to be smaller"- I would argue it already happened (nintendo did a fair line in it for platformers of yesteryear (albeit a bit muddy and without much in the way of AA) and recently Zeno Clash) just that we regressed a bit for this current round/relied a bit much on if not the unreal engine then pretenders to that throne.

Equally re "AMOUNT of textures"- possibly and especially if they go in for some more voxel or something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ATtrImCx4
I agree it is not ideal but it might make things a bit more interesting.

I assume we have all played something like http://www.theprodukkt.com/kkrieger and/or kept half an eye on the demoscene for the last couple of years.