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Because most probably the fake ones are made by the sky team as well. They're priced higher so that you purchase the sky 3ds and not the clones, as the clones are definitely made in fewer quantity than the original. Lesser quantity = more price, and vice versa.
you know that makes literally zero sense, right?
 

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Do the clones have more/better feature or something?
Like the r5sdhc is $92 when sky3ds is $88
Why is copy more then original

The idea of hardware cloning is typically associated with a cheaper product than the original. However, the 3DS flashcart scene isn't using the cheapest of meterials at the moment. To cover costs (especially for newer carts), resellers will keep the prices fairly high until they can get a stable enough income. The original Sky3DS was more than $100 on it's initial release, but it has proven to be stable enough where places are now starting to charge under $90.

The Sky3DS clones, on the other hand, aren't stable in terms of their market share. The market is being flooded (to a small degree), and carts have to compete, not only with the original Sky3DS, but also the other clones. This is rather dangerous from a business standpoint, as the more clones a reseller stocks, the fewer the odds of selling out their stocks on any one version. After all, why would anyone buy more than one type of clone if they all do the same exact thing?

If a specific clone manages to set itself apart long enough to where it's considered stable (the way that MT Card did with Gateway), then chances are we will see less of the other clones, and the prices will fall.
 
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>>Take original product or IP you own
>>rebrand it as knockoff thats costs more
>>make profit off of fake clones of your own product

Learn2Money
Germans can't into money well.
"hey guys i have a great idea, let's saturate the market we have already have a monopoly on with knockoffs of our own product and spend money rebranding, promoting, and distributing each of these knockoff products"

and I'm the one who can't into money?
 
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It just illusion of price.
If only Sky3DS on the market, they'll think it expensive.
If there is other card more expensive than Sky3DS then by normal compare, Sky3DS become cheapest product.
 
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"hey guys i have a great idea, let's saturate the market we have already have a monopoly on with knockoffs of our own product and spend money rebranding, promoting, and distributing each of these knockoff products"

and I'm the one who can't into money?
Dude, you aren't getting it... They sell the shitty rebranded clone higher, so people will keep buying the original. It makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint.
 
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Dude, you aren't getting it... They sell the shitty rebranded clone higher, so people will keep buying the original. It makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint.
It makes no sense for them to, because the only people that would have a reason to buy a Sky3DS are people on 9.3+. If they think the Sky3DS is too expensive then they have no other options anyway, other than you know, buying games.
 

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when they had the monopoly of the market, they needed to establish their price as the "going rate"........easiest way to do this is to establish a "competitor" that is pretty much the same price or more.....then people looking for a card will think "oh well thats the correct price"......R4,3dslink,orange3ds where the exactly same tactic, but used to try make gateway look overpriced,

it also has the advantage of making people more likely to choose your product, if your product is displayed on each resellers page twice, statistically speaking, people would be twice as likely to choose your product

PS, marketing was never built on logic, its designed to work on peoples sub-conscious
 

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when they had the monopoly of the market, they needed to establish their price as the "going rate"........easiest way to do this is to establish a "competitor" that is pretty much the same price or more.....then people looking for a card will think "oh well thats the correct price"......R4,3dslink,orange3ds where the exactly same tactic, but used to try make gateway look overpriced,

it also has the advantage of making people more likely to choose your product, if your product is displayed on each resellers page twice, statistically speaking, people would be twice as likely to choose your product

PS, marketing was never built on logic, its designed to work on peoples sub-conscious

it's not very easy for a small volume manufacturer like this servicing an incredibly niche market to just go and spend the money to set up entirely new companies to sell clones of the original product that are explicitly made to NOT sell to promote the sales of a smaller amount of cheaper products, that kind of money loss is pretty hard to take, and kind of pointless when nobody buys the original product anyway
 

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Somewhat related: I worked at Steinfeld's Pickles. We not only made our own brand, but the same jars and pickles got different labels and lids, and we sold them as "cheaper brands" of our own product, to flood the market. So no matter what "brand" of pickles people bought, they were ours, and we got the sale. Sky3DS is using the same tactics and marketing logic here. It's really nothing new. Companies even exploit this tactic to legally monopolize markets to unsuspecting consumers who aren't aware of the sub-branded products. It's dishonest, but that's just business.
 
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it's not very easy for a small volume manufacturer like this servicing an incredibly niche market to just go and spend the money to set up entirely new companies to sell clones of the original product that are explicitly made to NOT sell to promote the sales of a smaller amount of cheaper products, that kind of money loss is pretty hard to take, and kind of pointless when nobody buys the original product anyway
its a website, and a few different stickers.....hardly like they are making alternate shells and PCB's......literally, all it is is printing out a batch of alt sticker, its not a military operation.

you can argue that its not logical, but as i have already stated
marketing was never built on logic, its designed to work on peoples sub-conscious

and yes lots of people have bought the cards....the different stickers would of cost like $0.01 to produce, if you don't understand how marketing works that's all fine it wouldn't exactly work if everyone knew they where being psychologically manipulated would it :P
 
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Because most probably the fake ones are made by the sky team as well. They're priced higher so that you purchase the sky 3ds and not the clones, as the clones are definitely made in fewer quantity than the original. Lesser quantity = more price, and vice versa.

this makes sense, except the part that they are overpriced for you purchase the sky3ds

other person claimed that they created fake clones in order to create a fake sense of choice... so the original looks good enough to have clones
the main reason to fake clones being expensive should be because they are not so mass produced like the original card, for example they make 2 sky3ds for eveyr clone

but even this theory has a flaw, if it was a clone, wouldn't be a exact card of the original card with just a different sticker\brand?
i don't see a person spending money and resources to make a second schematic just for a fake clone card

unless... the clones are revisions of the original card, or versions of a previous stage of the final card... for mass producing the cards they had to make tests of the thing... they had to make different designs of the thing.. maybe the clones are the leftovers from that different designs...
 

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this makes sense, except the part that they are overpriced for you purchase the sky3ds

other person claimed that they created fake clones in order to create a fake sense of choice... so the original looks good enough to have clones
the main reason to fake clones being expensive should be because they are not so mass produced like the original card, for example they make 2 sky3ds for eveyr clone

but even this theory has a flaw, if it was a clone, wouldn't be a exact card of the original card with just a different sticker\brand?
i don't see a person spending money and resources to make a second schematic just for a fake clone card

unless... the clones are revisions of the original card, or versions of a previous stage of the final card... for mass producing the cards they had to make tests of the thing... they had to make different designs of the thing.. maybe the clones are the leftovers from that different designs...
truth is, i dont think anyone has really look, clones could be cards that have failed quality control and been sold off cheap to resellers under a different brand, i.e maybe sky3ds just badged up all the remaining red button cards as R5, to maintain their own brand name and start selling the blue button cards exclusively under the sky3ds brand

truth is i would imagine its more just a matter of creating false choice......lets face it the so called clones went on sale at the same time, i know cloners are fast....but not that fast that they can get the card and produce clones before the original team even release the product

i dont think any clone team would ever bother cloning something if they couldn't sell it considerably cheaper than the original(unless they intend to sell it as an original)....which is why im fairly certain there are no clones, only rebrands

i think its kinda obvious the price of sky3ds and its clones/rebrands are due a nice big price crash now that their monopoly only extends to 9.3-9.4, that's a rather limited monopoly for a card that has a lot less features than their competitors
 

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