What position or opinion have you changed your mind on, and why?

[SyphenFreht]

Have you looked into how the current Vice President kept people in jail past their sentences for the free labor or how the 1994 Crime Bill incarcerated a record number of black men for free labor? The prison system is one of the few areas that should not have been privatized. That was a huge mistake that we let slip right past us when many of us were still asleep.

No, I haven't, but that's deplorable regardless of party affiliation, especially for Democrats, and that shouldn't be left not dealt with. And I agree; the current state of the for prison system is an abomination, but a direct result of an overarching capitalist society that places more value on a person's contribution to society than on their life. And that's been a staple through both sides of the political system.

Have you looked into how the central banking system, not capitalism, has made us all debt slaves?

The Federal Reserve Bank has profited because of capitalism, not despite it. Ever wondered why many countries still refuse to adopt modern capitalist ideals and therefore refuse to trade with America? Don't get me wrong; the Bank will profit regardless, but capitalism is not a stint in it's fingers. If anything, it's an advocate.

I agree. Amazon is a horrible leftwing corporation.

Last I heard Bezos was Libertarian.

I agree, our education system is one of the worse. More than 160 teachers have been indicted on child sex abuse charges.

That's a major issue, but only one of many that riddles the current system.

The "elites" are in a downward spiral. The People are on the rise. As it should be. We are waking up globally.

You're not wrong but the elites are still keeping us divided, especially along red and blue lines. Instead of highlighting one or the other, both need to be overturned.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Gross. Their "thankless" job gets them all sorts of free shit and bootlickers constantly thanking them for their "service." The hate and scorn is absolutely justified from the thousand people they kill yearly while playing judge jury and executioner, not to mention roughly three times as many murdered pets. And if you honestly believe cops prevent crime you need to re-watch the Uvalde footage. They're trained to respond to crimes AFTER they've been committed, and that's all.

My position on police actually flipped the other way around, I'm pretty sure I even went through a phase where I wanted to be a cop when I was little. Then as a teen I learned that they're mostly high school dropouts, and 40% admit to being domestic abusers. The more you research the history of police in the US, the worse it gets. It's a job tailor made almost exclusively for narcissists and sociopaths, the good cops get fired for reporting the bad ones.

No no you don't understand, you should always thank the job that is allowed to shoot you and get away with it due to police unions, and literally had laws in place not even a hundred years ago that objectively prevented you and even outright criminalized you for not portraying them as heroes 100% of the time in media.

Have you looked into how the current Vice President kept people in jail past their sentences for the free labor or how the 1994 Crime Bill incarcerated a record number of black men for free labor? The prison system is one of the few areas that should not have been privatized. That was a huge mistake that we let slip right past us when many of us were still asleep.

Have you looked into how the central banking system, not capitalism, has made us all debt slaves?

These are the only true parts of your post. Leftists *hate* Biden and Kamala, because they're both the establishment to a T. They're just less destructive to the nation than Trump was while in power. Everything below these parts of your post however is objectively false.

 

[LainaGabranth]

holy shit why can i not delete my own POST

placeholder post for multi-quote use in edits i fucking guess!!!!

 

[KingVamp]

Kansas might have taught me that the nation isn't as anti-choice as I thought.

 

[Iamapirate]

Most of them. Growing up I was a fairly left wing atheist. Then I started thinking more critically and became a right wing atheist. I'd say one position that best embodies this is abortion. I was once in denial and using the same rhetoric until I was forced to look at it for what it is, the barbaric killing of an innocent human being.

 

[Dark_Phoras]

Most of them. Growing up I was a fairly left wing atheist. Then I started thinking more critically and became a right wing atheist. I'd say one position that best embodies this is abortion. I was once in denial and using the same rhetoric until I was forced to look at it for what it is, the barbaric killing of an innocent human being.

What was your rethoric then and what's your rethoric now on abortion?

 

[Iamapirate]

What was your rethoric then and what's your rethoric now on abortion?

Pretty much from generic pro choice to generic pro life

 

[Dark_Phoras]

Pretty much from generic pro choice to generic pro life

So, did you think it through or did you choose your position because it contributed to the build of who you are as a person?

 

[LainaGabranth]

Most of them. Growing up I was a fairly left wing atheist. Then I started thinking more critically and became a right wing atheist. I'd say one position that best embodies this is abortion. I was once in denial and using the same rhetoric until I was forced to look at it for what it is, the barbaric killing of an innocent human being.

For someone flexing their "critical thinking skills" you sure do seem interested in posturing with your stance instead of just stating it.

 

[TraderPatTX]

No, I haven't, but that's deplorable regardless of party affiliation, especially for Democrats, and that shouldn't be left not dealt with. And I agree; the current state of the for prison system is an abomination, but a direct result of an overarching capitalist society that places more value on a person's contribution to society than on their life. And that's been a staple through both sides of the political system.



The Federal Reserve Bank has profited because of capitalism, not despite it. Ever wondered why many countries still refuse to adopt modern capitalist ideals and therefore refuse to trade with America? Don't get me wrong; the Bank will profit regardless, but capitalism is not a stint in it's fingers. If anything, it's an advocate.



Last I heard Bezos was Libertarian.



That's a major issue, but only one of many that riddles the current system.



You're not wrong but the elites are still keeping us divided, especially along red and blue lines. Instead of highlighting one or the other, both need to be overturned.

Then you weren't paying attention during the 2020 Democrat primaries. There were many reasons why Kamala received less than 1% of the vote. That was just one.

WTF are you even talking about. The central bankers have made citizens in every single country around the globe debt slaves. It doesn't matter if that country has a capitalist economic system or a socialist one.

Bezos is a crony capitalist. The kind of capitalist you lump all capitalists with so you can bring in socialism.

The "elites" have been dividing us every which way we allow them to. Either by party affiliation, income level, gender, race, sexuality, where we live, etc etc. And we keep falling for it. As for the two parties, though not ideal, we are stuck with them. It sucks that the communists and fascists have taken over the Democrat Party, but at least almost all of the RINO's are losing in their primaries. The People are overwhelming the polls and the RINO's are unable to cheat enough to overcome it.

 

[LainaGabranth]

The "elites have been dividing us on every single line ever" talking point is a very stupid one, because it is ironically more divisive than any other. The divisions in society along racial, sexual, gender, and class lines are very real, and they aren't going to go away with us ignoring them. We have to do something about them, and no amount of arbitrary tying of our living conditions to wage slavery and commodification is going to magically equalize people. "Crony capitalism" isn't real, it is in the words of the creator of capitalism as well as all of its critics, the end goal of capitalism: consolidation of power.

In capitalism, wealth is political power, naturally a system built on arbitrary competition and debt slavery is going to lead to power going to those born into wealth rather than those the system is built upon, the lowest classes, which is why it'd be fucking moronic beyond words (not to mention pretty cucked) to want to build a new system of life around the same oppressive system, but with even LESS regulations for the people in power, the corporations and the 1%.

 

[SyphenFreht]

Then you weren't paying attention during the 2020 Democrat primaries. There were many reasons why Kamala received less than 1% of the vote. That was just one.

Probably not. I didn't care for either candidate.

You would think after pointing out all the low percentages Kamala and Biden got from their parties alone you'd learn to separate the grouping of most Democrats from the two.

WTF are you even talking about. The central bankers have made citizens in every single country around the globe debt slaves. It doesn't matter if that country has a capitalist economic system or a socialist one.

Citizens, moreso than entire governments. Anyone can willingly indebt themselves, but there are quite a few countries that actively pushback against the Federal Reserve Bank.

I'm curious. If you know the FRB is such a big deal, why are you constantly caught up with red v blue debates? Seems like you're purposely misguiding yourself when you're already so close to the answer.

Bezos is a crony capitalist. The kind of capitalist you lump all capitalists with so you can bring in socialism.

What's so bad about socialism again?

The "elites" have been dividing us every which way we allow them to. Either by party affiliation, income level, gender, race, sexuality, where we live, etc etc. And we keep falling for it. As for the two parties, though not ideal, we are stuck with them. It sucks that the communists and fascists have taken over the Democrat Party, but at least almost all of the RINO's are losing in their primaries. The People are overwhelming the polls and the RINO's are unable to cheat enough to overcome it.

Jesus you can't see the forest for the trees. How are we stuck in a bipartisan situation? Wouldn't just voting a third party into office fix that? Or are we going to try and blame that on Democrats and RINOs too? You're very selectively in your blame for being so anti political establishment.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Jesus you can't see the forest for the trees. How are we stuck in a bipartisan situation? Wouldn't just voting a third party into office fix that? Or are we going to try and blame that on Democrats and RINOs too? You're very selectively in your blame for being so anti political establishment.

You act like that's the easiest thing in the world. You may be too young to remember Ross Perot who IMO came the closest. And they dirty stuff that went in on public acts to his family.

Trump was a 3rd party candidate who high-jacked the Republican party. You may want to read up on his campaign as it's politically very interesting. Before announcing his run he met with former President Bill Clinton and chatted about a run and Bill's opinion on the odds a 3rd party candidate could win. Bill didn't think it was possible as it would just slip one of the parties' votes down the middle giving the other party an easy victory. This exact thing happened with Ralph Nader's runs.

Before running for office Trump was politically a Democrat and donated heavily to Democrat candidates. However, Trump's platform tested more favorably with Republicans so the decision was made to run as a Republican. I'm sure the undemocratic delegate vs super delegate BS the Democrats have that doesn't allow simple majorities to choose their party candidate was also heavily taken into account.

Also, review Trump's full run and he was constantly butting heads with the Republicans controlling the house and senate. The Republican establishment hated Trump.

 

[appleburger]

I also completely flipped on whether or not Die Hard is a Christmas movie - always thought it was silly to call it one.

This page won me over: https://stephenfollows.com/using-data-to-determine-if-die-hard-is-a-christmas-movie/

 

[Deleted member 114266]

I also completely flipped on whether or not Die Hard is a Christmas movie - always thought it was silly to call it one.

This page won me over: https://stephenfollows.com/using-data-to-determine-if-die-hard-is-a-christmas-movie/

Now, what about Batman Returns being a Christmas movie?

Or the Yakuza games all taking place around Christmas time?

 

[chrisrlink]

i'd say destroy the human species and start the evolution process anew because of our superior intelect we have became a corrupt species i was never for the end of humanity but after DJT i''m like f- it we failed as the top species on earth we are the only species that has a direct impact on our environment,onlly ones that murder/killl for the hell of it etc etc

 

[LainaGabranth]

undemocratic

*constitutional republic
:^)

 

[KitChan]

I thought reading this thread would be a waste of time. But it's made me understand and appreciate some of my fellow Tempers a little more ❤

 

[Deleted member 114266]

i'd say destroy the human species and start the evolution process anew because of our superior intelect we have became a corrupt species i was never for the end of humanity but after DJT i''m like f- it we failed as the top species on earth we are the only species that has a direct impact on our environment,onlly ones that murder/killl for the hell of it etc etc

What? Plenty of animals and insects will destroy their natural environments over time. No species has some magical equilibrium where everything is just perfect.

You might want to research animals more, chimps and dolphins both murder for fun. I'm sure there are many others as well but I know of those off the top of my head.

 

[appleburger]

Now, what about Batman Returns being a Christmas movie?

Or the Yakuza games all taking place around Christmas time?

My instinct would be no, but I don’t trust my own judgment on making these calls with movies anymore lol