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U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

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It actually is easy to say, "No, we cannot have sex tonight unless we're both fully protected."
For the third time, protection isn't 100% effective.

"No thank you I don't want to have sex." for whatever reason you have.
In general, most people like sex and are sexually active.

I guess this is a case of not knowing what you're missing.
 

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I'll tell you: It's taking the Federal government out of the picture, and giving the power back to the States to decide.
How is the state deciding what people can and can't do with their bodies, not a big government?
 
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I wonder how conservatives would feel if whether or not one could legally own a gun were up to the states.
Conservative logic, guns can't be limited because of mah rights, and criminals ignore laws. Also Conservative logic, we can limit human bodies, sexuality, gender, and everything else but it's not big government if it's all being done by the state.
 

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Conservative logic, guns can't be limited because of mah rights, and criminals ignore laws. Also Conservative logic, we can limit human bodies, sexuality, gender, and everything else but it's not big government if it's all being done by the state.
Conservative logic: "Abortion isn't a constitutionally protected right because the word 'abortion' doesn't appear in the Constitution, but I have a constitutional right to own weaponry that isn't explicitly mentioned in the Constitution and didn't even exist when the Second Amendment was written."
 

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This almost feels like an intentional smokescreen for something else going on because, really..THIS, in our current state of government, in 2022, THIS is somehow being considered a possibility. I just find it unbelievable to be honest. I thought we had evolved past this point but I guess not. Gotta love societal regression.


For one, its not a baby for a long ass while in development, and abortion typically happens long before it can be considered such. Hell a heartbeat isn't even in a stage of development until at least 5-6 weeks and that is if its healthy. It does not even develop brain matter even longer. Your argument about this inherently flawed. That said it did not stop those same people in the south to execute mentally impaired folk back in the day now did it? Also why the hell would a rape victim carry until close to birth? Most would never do this unless they are forced to which people looking at a forced pro-life perspective try their damnedest to discourage anyone from going through with it even trying to delay it enough so they could not get it properly taken care of in the time they need to. It all comes back to the pro-life dipshits that care so goddamn much about whats growing inside of a woman far more than the woman itself or what that life may be once after its born and the difficulties it will have living.

The way I see it, You want pro-life laws to go into effect? SURE! But you know what, once that baby is born its the responsibility, taxation and care forced on to the pro-life people that will have no choice but to take on that role, you want to preserve life? Its now your responsibility to take care of it until its an adult. Otherwise if that does not work with you then STAY THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND CHOICES.


Seriously, people who speak of pro-life are so out of touch with reality around them, either having been born with a silver spoon up their arse and/or completely discconected with the problems of the world around them just assuming people live in troubles because they make their own problems, it must be nice to live that high in the clouds.
If we're still practicing human sacrifice here on Earth, my friend, I don't give a f*ck if we're colonizing the Moon, Mars or making dull trips to Alpha Centauri, ok?
 

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Conservative logic: "Abortion isn't a constitutionally protected right because the word 'abortion' doesn't appear in the Constitution, but I have a constitutional right to own weaponry that isn't explicitly mentioned in the Constitution and didn't even exist when the Second Amendment was written."
The baby inside the mother's womb is a baby, or a little human being, or whatever you want to call it. If you want to murder, kill, stab, poison or asphyxiate that little baby, it's exactly what you're doing. It also goes by the name of HUMAN SACRIFICE, and I hope this gets extinguished from the whole Earth as soon as possible.
 

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Damn, you sound like a miserable person who had a bad childhood or something. Yeah, not everyone is caring, which is why the kids should go to someone who is caring and loving to raise them. It's that simple. I'm not the one endangering people by wanting more murder. And it is a double standard to say "my body, my choice" for abortions but not for experimental injections with possible deadly side effects.
My childhood has nothing to do with it. I just go outside and talk to people. Yes, it's that simple.
As stated by many people you keep misqualifying the removal of a bunch of cells as murder. It is not a baby at this stage, they are not killing babies just like you're not committing murder by masturbating.
And actually, I was against mandatory injections -even though I got my 3 shots- exactly because of what you're saying. My body, my choice. I understand why it happened in many countries though. Many people refusing to wear masks and the bare minimum to keep themselves and other safe.
Neither are you.
Good, I wasn't planning on it.
 

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Conservative logic, guns can't be limited because of mah rights, and criminals ignore laws. Also Conservative logic, we can limit human bodies, sexuality, gender, and everything else but it's not big government if it's all being done by the state.
Did you know Benito Mussolini followed the very sound logic of disarming the Italian civilians so that that no one could oppose his regime? You look like you really enjoy that logic too, don't you? But you don't wanna be called a f*scist, do you? Oh mine, such a cruel world...
 

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Did you know Benito Mussolini followed the very sound logic of disarming the Italian civilians so that that no one could oppose his regime? You look like you really enjoy that logic too, don't you? But you don't wanna be called a f*scist, do you? Oh mine, such a cruel world...
I really don't think you are a doctor.
 

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"big government" doesn't mean "federal", and "small government" doesn't mean "state". It's about the size and breadth of the action.

We want government completely out of the equation. Just like with things like free speech and freedom of religion, we want to prevent the government from even being able to create laws restricting basic human rights. they're human rights, not rights bestowed by a government.

in this case, it's the right to personal autonomy. even if you believe a clump of cells is a human life, just like how you can't be forced to donate blood or a kidney, you can't force someone to give up their body to eventually grow a human.

a fair compromise is probably a month or two after conception.
The right to live is the first golden rule in any set of "human rights" (you probably don't know the origin of this term you use so much).
The baby inside the mother's womb is an INDIVIDUAL with its own unique DNA, which can not become a monkey, can not become a dog, can not become a tree, can not become a unicorn, it can only become a human being, because IT IS a human being, with THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
 
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The baby inside the mother's womb is a baby, or a little human being, or whatever you want to call it. If you want to murder, kill, stab, poison or asphyxiate that little baby, it's exactly what you're doing. It also goes by the name of HUMAN SACRIFICE, and I hope this gets extinguished from the whole Earth as soon as possible.
We disagree that a fetus or embryo is a baby. Regardless, a woman should have a right to bodily autonomy. The day you say the government should require a woman to carry a pregnancy to term is the day you say the government should require a person to donate a kidney.
 

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We disagree that a fetus or embryo is a baby. Regardless, a woman should have a right to bodily autonomy. The day you say the government should require a woman to carry a pregnancy to term is the day you say the government should require a person to donate a kidney.
I disagree that abortists are actual people. Like you, they're just a mal-functioning clump of cells. So I'm gonna kill you. Now.
 

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The right to live is the first golden rule in any set of "human rights" (you probably don't know the origin of this term you use so much).
The baby inside the mother's womb is an INDIVIDUAL with its own unique DNA, which can not become a monkey, can not become a dog, can not become a tree, can not become a unicorn, it can only become a human being, because IT IS a human being, with THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
Those same rights also list forced pregnancy as a crime against humanity
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/crimes-against-humanity.shtml
My God, you're almost convincing me that murdering babies is indeed a "women's right" (even when it's a female baby you're murdering).
Try just a little harder, please.
I asked you a rather simple question about the field of medicine that you study under. If you are a doctor, that shouldn't be an issue to disclose. So far, you've only presented some basic medical jargon that one would learn in middle/high school. The rest of your posts have been conspiracies, conjectures, and misquoting. You claimed to be a doctor but you act more like one of the regulars we commonly see making dupe accounts.
 

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I disagree that abortists are actual people. Like you, they're just a mal-functioning clump of cells. So I'm gonna kill you. Now.
Here we are, thanks for quantifying your hate of people who want abortions.
You'd actually kill people over wanting to have one. Your level of intelorence of other's bodily decisions is appalling.
 

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